Ok I was were I joined groups. The first one I joined, they mostly existed underground, in underground establishments - small places, not big, they were little, like little, if you take a normal apartment how it might look like if you have like a kitchen, and the lounge and the bedroom, reasonably small - but now the people that would gather there, you know had connections with the Government, the Military, the, the, you know Justice System, Banking System, so get together