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Stanley Krippner Interview pt. 1 - June 24, 2010

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First of all, Dr. Krippner, I would like to thank you for giving us this opportunity to have an interview and this small talk with you for our website [http://altstates.net]. Thank you. Your website is a very exciting project. I was delighted to hear the explanation of it. Yes, we could talk about it. We would like to ask a few questions about your interest in altered states of consciousness And the first question would be what could be, in your opinion, the most promising direction of research in the field of altered states of consciousness for the nearest future? Well, I think the most promising direction right now is the use of MDMA (or Ecstasy) in psychotherapy, especially for war veterans who have post-traumatic stress disorder There have been a few groups of war veterans from countries in the Middle East and the United States and the results of them are quite outstanding So here is a practical use of altered states of consciousness technology that really helps people and it also helps us to understand human consciousness So if I were to give you one example of the most promising directions I would say, look at MDMA and the use of psychotherapy with war veterans suffering from trauma Yes, are there, to your knowledge, any research in this area that you could point out? Yes, there has been a study sponsored by the Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies [MAPS] and this will be published very soon in a psychiatric journal And the results have been very positive So, this is an article that has been written by professional psychiatrists and psychotherapists and by the time that you get this on your website it will probably get published And I urge you to get a copy of that and post it on your website Yes, it would be wonderful! Another question would be about the general condition—the status— of the field of transpersonal psychology Could you describe your perspective on the future of transpersonal psychology and the community? In the United States, the future of transpersonal psychology is not very bright The publishers of books are now becoming interested in spirituality and religion but they don't like to use the word "transpersonal" because that is too unorthodox and it has unpleasant connotations with superstition, with cults with movements that are called "New Age movements" And so transpersonal psychology simply does not appear in academic or scientific circles in the mainstream United States' culture Now, on the other hand, the transpersonal movement shows great promises in the United States Transpersonal anthropology now has its own section of the American Anthropological Association —and I am a member It's not called "transpersonal anthropology" it's called "the anthropology of consciousness" Also, there are many courses in religious studies in the United States' universities Now, they don't use the word "transpersonal" they use the word "religious" And there has been a great deal of media interest: films about transpersonal subjects, television series about transpersonal subjects So, transpersonal psychology is not doing very well in terms of attention in the United States But anything else has become a part of the American culture even though it's not usually called "transpersonal" "Transpersonal" as a word is much more acceptable in Great Britain for the British Psychological Society actually has a Transpersonal Psychology division Also, in Germany there is a transpersonal psychology magazine And there are other countries where "transpersonal" as a word and as a concept is more highly respected than in the United States So, I think that that indicates that transpersonal psychology has a long way to go before it enters the mainstream of psychology and science in the United States And I do not know how long it would take Yes, it is, indeed, the question For all researchers... I think, for mostly all researches in the field —especially when you spoke about transformative transpersonal experience— the main interest in the field is usually triggered by their own experience Could you please describe what is the most important peak experience or peak experiences in your own life? Well, at this conference I used the word as you mentioned transformative transpersonal experiences to indicate experiences that people have that are transpersonal, that are spiritual, that are religious which are unitive —whatever the word you are to use— that have a transforming or changing effect upon us And I think that for some people they have a major effect for some people maybe a minor effect but, still, these transpersonal experiences have the capacity to bring about change in the persons, attitudes, and behavior or both For me there are many such experiences and one that I had when I was very young and in an outdoor camp with young people was a walk into the woods and there I saw a baby fawn (a small deer) and I felt a feeling of unity with all And from that moment on I have felt a part of nature and that nature is a broad field and I am simply a minor player in that field So rather than conquering nature or fighting Nature or destroying Nature I felt very much a part of Nature Now, the way that this has impacted some of my professional activities is my proposition that people who are out to destroy Nature are actually pathological they're psychologically sick and they need treatment! This is a very unconventional point of view but there are people who are destroying nature to make money or to gain power and they don't realize that by destroying Nature they're also destroying a part of themselves because the person and Nature are one And also it has led to my interest in what we call in the United States "ecological psychology" or "eco-psychology" The most important psychological magazine in the United States is the American Psychologist which is the main psychological journal of the American Psychological Association And when I won an award from the American Psychological Association they allowed me to write an article on anything I chose And so I chose to write an article about the psychological aspects of shamanism And as a part of that article I wrote about ecological psychology And this was the first time that ecological psychology has been mentioned in an official American Psychological Association journal So, as you can see, that simple little experience with the baby fawn in the woods has had major repercussions in my personal life and my professional life Yes, thank you!

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Duration: 9 minutes and 46 seconds
Country: Russia
Language: English
Producer: altstates.net
Director: altstates.net
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Posted by: altstates.net on Aug 6, 2010

Part 1 of the Interview with Dr. Stanley Krippner. Filmed at the International Transpersonal Conference (Moscow, Russia) on June 24, 2010.

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