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Tarmo Toikkanen talks about the Finnish Copyright Initiative on the Min Morgon TV Show 29.1.2013

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Let's welcome our first guest into the studio. The topic is copyright, immaterial rights. Welcome, Tarmo Toikkanen. Welcome and good morning. This is about a citizen initiative, "Common sense to copyright". Explain briefly, what problems you as backers of the initiative see in the Finnish copyright law. Copyright is a balance between artists and society, and currently also the media industry. The last changes in 2006 (Lex Karpela) were very much in the media industry's interests. Already then people anticipated problems with this law and now we've seen the problems. What problems are you talking about? For example, 80% of Finnish teens can potentially get a criminal record. They have downloaded an illegal copy of music or something. That is a crime (not an infraction or offence). And this became illegal in the latest change? So that anyone who's downloaded a file... It has always been illegal. Even if this initiative passes, it still will be against the law. But it feels a bit excessive to get 2 years in prison and a criminal record for downloading a cd. I mean, it is against the law, and one should not do that. So this change is about proportions. -Exactly. What are you proposing, how should the law function instead of so hard penalties for downloaders? Small changes here and there. There is a lot to fix. But in essence this is about balance. Currently the law is much too much in favor of the media industry's interests. For example, one private organization, TTVK, controlled by the media, currently functions like a government agency, sending police to do house searches, and such. This was the "Chisugate" incident. Right, the 12-year old girl who downloaded on song by artis Chisu. And was fined quite heavily, considering it was just one album. This initiative has raised a lot of interest abroad. It's been in news in Spain, UK and USA. Why is this interesting outside of Finland? The proposed law itself is not radical. It is in line with recent changes in the UK, USA and Holland, for example. What is newsworthy is that this is a grassroots initiative, which hasn't happened elsewhere. And now you have collected a bit over 12000 signatures. -Yes, in one week. And the goal is 50000. -Jes, 50000 are needed. Organizing a citizen initiative became possible last march. If you can collect 50000 digital signatures to a proposed law, it will go directly to the parliament and they must vote on it. You are quite engaged with schools and teaching yourself. How does copyright come into play there? The situation is somehwat unclear. But let me ask you. Do you think it is ok for teachers to give an assignment to translate a news item from a newspaper? Yes, seems ok. --Surely it's useful to be able to use text in that way. Yes, well it is illegal. Unfortunately. Aah, ok... Can one read a newspaper then? That can one do, yes. But not translate? -No. Heh. -Ok, that sounds pretty constrained. OK, do you think it's ok for a teacher to show a perfectly legal YouTube-video in class? Of course, but I can already start to think that there are probably rules that showing videos in public is not allowed. And that school classrooms are counted as public places. --Exactly. There are other examples. In the initiative, we want school teaching to be classified as a private event (like in Norway). It will fix these problems - not all, but... And one would think that it would be valuable for the society that all this existing -Information -could be used. Yes, one could think that. If you, the viewers, agree, and this is something you wish to support Go online and sign the initative. For example, the web site has more information. Just one vote short. So there's more information and you can also participate. One more thing. In the future, in 10-20 years, how does copyright look like, Do you think it will be more difficult for artists to continue creating art and music in the future? Many complain that they are losing copyright, and can't really earn money on anything. It's the media insdustry's role to think of new ways to serve the public with this content. This initiative also has changes that would guarantee that artists get fair compensation for their work. Nowaday for example professional photographers have problems when media companies give them onesided contract with now negotiation possibilities. They get paid once for a picture, which is then used wherever in the world. Yes. -And you want to change this as well? Yes, principles in the law that would guarantee fair compensation for artists' work. In summary, artists and citizens are in the fokus, with maybe less power to the big corporations. Basic principle. -Yes, that's a fair way to put it. Many thanks for coming here. -Thank you! Have a good day. We will continue with news. 1) Sign the iniative at 2) Follow: 3) Share links to others!

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Duration: 9 minutes and 26 seconds
Country: Finland
Language: Swedish
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Posted by: joonasp on Jan 30, 2013


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