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He is funny. We're going to get you to go straighten up a little. Oh, you woke up, didn't you? Can I get a glass of water from somebody? Thank you very much. All right, should be live. Everybody tell them to refresh their browsers. Puppy party. For those of you that have not seen Puppy Culture, just a background, at six weeks old the puppies are in what we call their curiosity period. So it's a great time to have a puppy party and to expose them to a lot of new stuff. And the goal of the puppy party is to present some mildly challenging scenarios in a positive light so the puppies make a positive association that challenge and enrichment is a good thing. This is why everyone that is at this puppy party today is either a professional dog trainer or a very experienced dog trainer owner because we feel that to curate the experience for the puppies and make sure it's a positive one is very, very important. The social sensitivity that allows them to imprint love of something with just one exposure during this time will also allow them to imprint a fearful or a bad experience at this time. So this is why we try and make the party as controlled and curated as possible. So that having been said, you're probably all curious about the equipment that we have here, and what I want to say is two things. First of all, we have two sets of equipment here. One is our DIY equipment that Mark and I made together that you saw in Puppy Culture. And the other is the prototype for the manufactured equipment. They are prototypes. They're still a work in progress. But what I'm going to do is talk later and give you DIY tips for how we made our own. So let's go over. I think I'm going to have Gale and Elena on the shoot. So here's the shoot, guys. Now, here's the two-- we're just going to use one of these, but it's a barrel, and it has a fabric opening. You can see it goes straight through. And what this does-- you know, you might look at this stuff-- and this was my second point-- and say, well, this is agility equipment. I'm not interested in teaching my dogs agility. They're just-- they're going to be pets or show dogs. But every one of these pieces of equipment actually is going to teach the puppy a key skill that they would need in real life. There's going to be stuff that goes over your dogs heads. There's going to be times when something falls on their head. Towels, in Puppy Culture, we show a towel over a dog's head. So this is great to teach the dogs just to accept something covering their head like this. Plus the closed space, going through, great enrichment. So what we're going to start with-- we have two different ones. Our prototype still has a very rough surface. This has a nice soft yoga matting surface. So I think we're going to use this one to start with. We're going to take the chute part off because we're just going to approximate the lowest level to start with. We don't want to freak out the puppies. These puppies actually, you know, they're not going to have any problem going through the chute, but we're going to go through the steps anyway because we're adding the variable of new people. So you guys-- where's Elena? You guys are going to be on the chute, and what you're going to do is just call the puppy back and forth through the chute, and that's it for the first session. Each session is going to be timed at two minutes per piece of equipment. So we have nine puppies. They're going to come out three at a time. We have three stations and it's going to be two minutes per rotation. If you watch Puppy Culture, you know it's distributed learning. That's about what we feel is the optimal amount of time for the puppies to train at once. Their little brains just can't go any further than that. So they'll get six minutes total training each rotation, two minutes per piece of equipment. Then each group of three will come out, and then be put away, while the next two groups work, and then we're going to rotate through again. And you're going to get to see the effects of distributed learning because you'll see how much better they are the second time through. So that's your assignment for this one, Now, the dog walk. We're going to start with the manufactured dog walk because it has lower legs on it. You know, these legs are adjustable. Why don't we do Heidi and Ethel on-- no, you know what? Let's do you two because you're-- I'm going to do you two. I'm going to do you on the tippy board to start with, OK? So we're going to have Tammy and Heidi. Now, here's the thing that's super crucial to know about this. And ask any questions that you have. I mean, you're allowed. You're allowed. So the thing that's super crucial to know about this is that this session is not about getting the puppies to do anything. It is more of a conceptual thing, that they can learn to offer things, and be rewarded for it. So therefore, if the puppy shows any reluctance or hesitation to get on here, no problem at all. The second time they come out they'll be better. So don't try and lure them, or force them, or get them to go over it. It doesn't matter if they do or not. What you do is-- and I gave you guys each a treat thing. What you do is if they put one foot on it, click that, and then throw the food away back here. Give them relief from the thing that they're afraid of, OK? Because we don't-- again, if you try and lure them up when they're scared, especially at this age, the fear of the height often can be stronger than the love of the food. So you really are not going to win that way. You actually could wind up conditioning a fear of food if you have a very fearful puppy. None of these puppies are going to be that fearful, but a lot of people-- other breeds, or maybe a litter that was not enriched with all the Puppy Culture protocols could find this really terrifying. Really, really super important that you do not try and get the puppy off. Give you the puppy relief. The relief from the fear of going up the dog walk is going to be 10 times stronger than getting food on the dog walk. Because what does everyone do? The puppy puts a step on-- they do this with adult dogs too. They just put the food right here, like ooh, just one more step. And again, you can wind up conditioning a-- associating fear with food so they don't really like food anymore, rather than conditioning them to love the dog walk. Whereas if you throw it back here, the puppy knows oh hey, I'm brave, and I get relief. That feels good. It's so counter-intuitive, but you will see it work like magic that those puppies will just start running up the dog walk through. True of adult dogs too. And teater, dog walk, try it. It works. It's amazing. Again, relief away from the dog walk. All right, so again, this we're not going to click. We don't need any clicker on this, you know, obviously. This, click for that first foot on there, let them off, then two, then three. You know how to hold out for more each time, Right OK. Are you guys comfortable with that? Yup. So you start with just the one foot, and then once they're doing that pretty reliably, then two feet, then three feet, and gradually-- you know, I expect these puppies will just want to run over it anyway. I mean, they're kind of-- they're kind of hip to all this. Now, Ethel-- Ethel is a veteran on this tippy board equipment. So when I'm going to move right over here and show you the three pieces we have. This is going to be the one that comes in the kit, which is actually a-- it's a teater that the puppy can get on with all four feet. This is a balance board that's a DIY that I'll go over how we made that. This is a small little tippy board, which also will be part of the manufactured equipment. This will be like a front foot. This is all four feet. The idea being here is that they learn to actually balance and control the pivot as they go over it. This is more just like a total balance thing. It's like it goes in all directions. I think, Ethel-- which one do you want to start, Ethel? You want to start with the bigger one or with the tippy one? I think the bigger one. You want the bigger one first? OK. So again, same thing, and Ethel's done this so many times. You click for just the first foot on, and again, give relief away just like the dog walk, and then two feet, and then three feet. And then at some point-- and it can be when you least expect-- it's going to tip. And at that point, you always want to click when it tips, and feed because that is the piece that we want to imprint on the puppy. That unstable surfaces under their feet is very important. Again, if you saw Puppy Culture, the dog walk-- think about it. The vet's office having to be on an elevated surface to be examined, grooming tables, or even just a ramp to get up into a car. A car ramp, which a lot of dogs have to do. This is very practical. This is very practical-- unstable surfaces, rocks, you know they walk over a board on a street, that they won't lose their mind. All really important practical stuff, not necessarily related to agility. Am I bringing [INAUDIBLE] Yeah, bring him on in. So this is Sparky. Ethel has Sparky. Say hello to Sparky. Hi, Sparky. Sparky has the brown ear. He just woke up. It's going to take him a minute to-- A little sleepy. Yeah. Oh, and this baby Meena. Heidi has baby Meena. And this is Bijoubie right there. Yup, yup, yup, yup. OK, you guys ready, set, train. And generally, we have a lot of puppies will-- nice Ethel, well done. [INAUDIBLE] the clicker, huh. Here's the food, silly. They don't-- yeah, they're kind of not able to really figure that out. Here just see if you can just take a little handful, and I'll take a little handful, and I'll take this for you. That's very good, yeah. There you go. Nice, Ethel. Ethel's doing great here with Sparky. She's not too interested in the dog walk? He even likes the clicker in my hand. Yeah. Good job. Tammy, see if you go a little bit like alongside the dog walk, if that helps you a little bit. Yeah. See if you can-- yeah, that's it. I know you're blocking the other Bijou but-- Way to go [INAUDIBLE]. Good girl. Good girl. All right, let me-- yeah, there she is. [CLICKER] Yay, Heidi. Good job, good job, good job. Oh, Jane, does it matter if I feed her from my hand? No, not at all. Not-- oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. They don't really see it. [CLICKS] You can help her by-- you can just show her a little bit. Put your hand on the dog walk just to show her. Meens! [KISS NOISES] Puppy, puppy, puppy! [CLICKS] Good job. Yay! Good boy, there you go. Here, let me help you just a little bit-- [CLICKER] Yay! Heidi's getting it. Yay! She wants to join Meena's party. They always want to jump ship. [PHONE ALARM GOES OFF] OK, let's rotate. And while they're rotating, we have a question. Does the random clicking confuse the puppies? I don't know why, but it doesn't. There are three sets of clickers. So when one puppy isn't being treated while another does well. I can't tell you why, but it just does not. And we'll take Bijou. We'll take Sparky. This is Sparky. That's Sparky. [CLICKER] Yes, OK, hold on me. OK, let's go. All right, so that was the rotation. They each had two minutes. Actually, these are very civilized puppies. We usually have more like renegades. [CLICKS] Yay, that's good. Yeah, they're civilized. They were starting to nap a little bit. Yeah, well, I think they're waking up here. What are you missing? Don't run that way. Oh, OK. Hold on. Yeah, because it's there. OK, we're just going to move you guys a little bit because you're out of the picture a bit. Oh, now you want to come our way. Hello there, Sparky. She's like oh, yeah, I remember. Here, let's stand you back over this way. No, I opened that. That's going to be his source. [INTERPOSING VOICES] Who is the bravest one? Who is the bravest one? Can you see them on the tunnel now? So that's great. You're doing a good job with her, Heidi. Good job, buddy! Again-- They're already so in tune with your hands. And obviously, these puppies don't have any fear. It's going to be-- for a lot of puppies, this is much-- going to be much more of a challenge. But again, these have been raised in Puppy Culture protocol. So they're just-- I'll have to fix it next time. Nicely done. Whoa, good girl. So Heidi, you can actually start feeding. You guys can start feeding on the dog walk because they don't have any fear. They're not showing fear. [CLICKS] Good girl. You're the winner. Yeah. Good girl. There she goes. Yay! Bijou! [CLICKS] Good job. I like the way you guys are taking over. Oops. Yeah, Heidi, you got to spot her. She's OK. There you go. Didn't even phase her. No. Yay! The down side is harder. Yeah. Yay, good girl! OK. [PHONE ALARM RINGS] OK, that's two minutes. Yay! I'm going to have to rotate. I'm going to move this a little bit. Do you want to try, and yeah, turn it that way a little? Like yeah. Super star, I think you go to the ramp now. Yeah. No, yes, you're coming to the ramp. You're going this way. And there's a question about whether the exercises should be mean manipulative like this or whether or not you can introduce like retrieving exercises and things like that. What kind of exercises? Retrieving and-- Absolutely. And so the question is, does it have to be with equipment-- agility equipment? And absolutely not. It does not have to be. A lot of the purpose of this is just to-- You can get started. I think she did the timing. --teach the puppies to the core concept of working for people. So if you didn't want to do with equipment, you could do one-- we've done them where we had recalls between two people, which is a great thing to teach. Where maybe one station is teaching the puppies to sit. It can actually be just training tasks. Somebody said something about retrieve. Absolutely. If you have a breed of dog that is likely to retrieve at six weeks old, is going to want to retrieve, if that's going to be a core concept-- oh, by the way, I didn't start my-- all right, these guys-- I was answering questions and I was asleep at the wheel. So these guys are going to get a little extra turn on this. Absolutely, it does not have to be agility related. The most important thing is to try and get just people that they haven't met before. The puppies have not met-- oh, actually, they've met Gale, but she's the only one of these people that the puppies have actually met before. OK, all right. Good, good, good. Coming your way. Ooh, they like to turn around in there. [CLICKS] That's fun. [CLICKS] [INTERPOSING VOICES] Jimmy would like to see more shots of Ethel, please. We always have the husbands on from afar. OK, that's good. Let's rotate. OK. Oh, it's time for our next-- it's time for our next group. OK. These guys are rocking it out. [INTERPOSING VOICES] Heidi, you already have three dogs at home. I just want to remind you. Heidi is also a bull terrier breeder. And she will never know you're there. She won't. He's a sweetie too. They will never know he's missing, right? No, you're welcome to him. Kiki has two black ears. You'll never notice and I'll just swap them out. Are there anymore more questions? OK, next round. So some other great things. You could do recalls. You could do sitting. You could definitely do retrieves if your puppies are interested in that. But again, it's not-- this is really great to be able to teach them some of these core concepts as far as things that they'll need, life skills. But the puppy party is really just about teaching the puppies to work for people. That people are reinforcing to-- that people are a good thing and to create this relationship, a working relationship, with human beings. Oh, here's catfish. He's gorgeous. You're a puppy How are you a catfish? He looks like a catfish. Show him to the camera, Ethel. I hear this one's named Sassy. Yeah, can you tell? Oh, you're going to [INAUDIBLE] the name. I've got a car load of sassy outside. [CHUCKLES] Yup. Sassy B, sassy B. Are you small potatoes? She's adorable. Oh my goodness. Let me see this face. All right. [INAUDIBLE] Linguine. Yeah, oh, now he's Linguine? Well, he kind of floats around, doesn't he? Yeah. So Bob was-- bikini Bob, because he has a bikini. He has a Speedo on his back. He does. Star the timer. Well wait, I'm waiting for these guys to start. Yeah. And then he was Zucchini Bob. Because that's what my six-year-old niece thought he was. Because of the summer time zucchini. And now Gale's named him linguine Bob. Or Bobby Z. We call him Bobby Z. Bobby Z. [CLICKERS CLICKING] Ooh, Sassy B, look at her go! Good girl, Sassy B. He's going full speed. Look at your little tail wagging. Oh my God. Again, you know, this is-- what you see here with these puppies might not be typical for every breed or every litter. Bull terriers as a breed tend to be extremely bold, and these puppies have been extremely conditioned from birth to do things like this. Jane has a question. Yes. Bobby Z is excited. Is it more important for the puppies to interact with the equipment or with the people? What do you do if they ignore one or the other? Wow, I wish that person was here so I could flesh out that question. I don't think that it's more important that they do one or the other, and I think that's going to differ a huge amount per breed. But however it unfolds-- can you hear me? You can hear me? However it unfolds is the way it should be and that's fine. As long as there are positive associations being made, it's great. Now, these puppies are actually on the high age range. Wait, I just want to make sure I'm not missing my time. I'm going to talk to you as we're rotating because-- Oh, I think we're rotating. No, not yet. You still got 27 seconds. But I'm going to speak to the differences between different litters and different puppies. Bob is always-- he's all over it. He's just like hey, how-- he's running for mayor. These puppies though, are not-- like normally, they run around more. They don't stay on task. These are very focused-- they're easy puppies. They're easy puppies. And I think they like to work already. Yeah, already. Well, they're a little older too. OK, time to rotate. So what I want to say is that first of all, these are bull terriers, which it's a competent breed. Second of all, they've been raised with Puppy Culture, which makes a big difference. Third of all, they are going to be seven weeks old tomorrow. So they're on the high-end of the age. We always want to do this when our puppies are six weeks old, but we do it the first weekend after they've turned six weeks old. So it just so happens because they were born at one o'clock in the morning on Monday-- OK, ready to go-- that first weekend, they're almost seven weeks old. So I think the difference between three or four days difference at this age is huge. So if you're doing it when your puppies are six and a half weeks old, they may not be as bold as this. That's OK. I know we have a lot of Doxin breeders on the Puppy Culture discussion group on Facebook. And it has been their experience that at six weeks they're behind where these puppies are, but when they do the party or they do the exercise again at seven weeks, they see that they're about where these puppies are. So you may have to make adjustments per your breed. For bull terrier, six weeks is a perfect time for this. Other breeds, especially, I think, smaller breeds, you may want to just do it a little later. You really can do it any time, except I would not recommend doing it at 8 weeks, during that fear imprint period at eight weeks old. OK, I know there's a lot of exuberance in the party, but a lot of people are having a hard time hearing you, Jane. Oh, they are? OK. You know what, I'm just going to move-- No, no, don't be quieter. I'm going to actually move into the kitchen. Does that-- Or can you turn down the volume on the boom mic? Is that better? OK, so he turned off the volume-- no, no, whoop it up guys, the puppies love it, and that's part of the experience, is the noise, OK? Jane, put your mic up closer. OK. You know, part of this whole experience is the noise and excitement. And frankly, part of reinforcement is the noise and excitement. Puppies this age-- Want me to get off now? Hold on, I got 14 seconds and then we're going to rotate. So just let me-- let me count down. [PHONE ALARM RINGING] OK, rotate. Yay! [INTERPOSING VOICES] Jane, you have another question. Yes. It's a good time. What's the question, Gene. The question is whether or not the puppies have previously been exposed to the equipment in their puppy pen. OK, good question. You guys ready? Go. You know, that's a really great question for two reasons. Just to see what Zucchini Bob here is doing is what we typically expect. He'll like this too once he figures out he gets fed for it. So no, these puppies have not been-- if they actually did see the dog walk outside for about 10 minutes, although they didn't go on it, and that's where the edges of it got chewed. But we don't typically put them on the equipment until the puppy party because that's part of our novelty, is getting them on the equipment. If you have a breed that was more hesitant and shy, you might want to expose them to the equipment first because it would be stacking too many stressors to have strange people, and strange equipment, and a strange task. Again, it's a very confident, socially outgoing breed. They love people. Typically, they'll run towards strangers. So this is not a stress for them. But very important, we never, never, never leave this equipment in the puppy pen with them unattended because it's just too much danger that somebody could fall off, somebody could get crushed under something. We do actually have a flexible flyer, like a plastic-- what do you call? Snow saucer. It's a snow saucer that we leave in there because it's round enough and soft enough that nobody can get stuck under it. Nobody can fall out of it. So we leave that in, but all this tippy equipment and unstable stuff we don't. Did I start my sign? Yes, I did. We're almost ready. Let's try. Let's try it. Did Bobby Z figure out that this is good too? Yes, he did. [INTERPOSING VOICES] Happy, happy, joy, joy . Again, you know, the excitement-- [PHONE ALARM RINGING] OK, here we go. All right so it's a new group, right? Time to rotate. Good, I will speak to the social reinforcers here. So there was-- you know, there was a lot of noise, and people couldn't hear me, and then everybody's like well, we'll be quiet. And by all means, that's not what we want. What we want is we want this excitement. We want the puppies to associate fun and excitement, that the people, emotionally, are enjoying working with the puppies. That's really an important part of the puppy parties, is to really imprint a thrill of training and working because they sense it. They sense how fun it is. Very interesting about puppies this age. Now bull terriers, typically, are not what you would call biddable dogs. They don't really work as adults for praise, affection, and play that much. Not typically. But a six-week-old puppy, even a bull terrier will because, in fact, the social reinforcers-- meaning to say, the opportunity to interact with people often will be a higher level reinforcer for a six-week-old bull terrier than the food. Just my hypothesis. I think it makes sense, given the fact that they're still-- they're in their peak socialization period, but they're still extremely helpless. So it stands to reason that social approval would have a big evolutionary advantage because if the adults and the big animals love you and protect you, you're going to do better. Again, just at 16 weeks, as you all know, what do they call-- cutting teeth and cutting apron strings. Hi there. This is Phineas. It makes sense that when their teeth come in, and they have mobility, they become more independent. And usually by 16 weeks, food is going to be a stronger-- for our breed, it's going to be a stronger reinforcer than social interaction. Again, another reason to try and imprint that if you want to do any kind of performance or even the breed ring. If you want to imprint on those puppies that this is really fun so that will carry forward with them as they grow older, and it's not naturally reinforcing. You guys ready? All right. I'm just going to hug Phineas. I know. Phineas-- that's Mark's dog. And Luigi Meatballs. And that's Luigi Meatballs. Luigi Meat-a-balla. And that's that Imogen. Ethel has Imogen. And Luigi Meat-a-ball. Luigi Meatballs. Now, I would expect that Luigi would be the most timid of all of them. [INAUDIBLE] There you go. [CLICKS] He's the one that will sit at the top of the stairs and be like, you know-- you remember that, right Gale? He's like I'm here. He said, I'm just going to look gorgeous up here, and wait for you guys to come get me. They wanted to know if the room is also new to the puppies or just the people and the equipment. Just the people. No, the room is not new. There was on Puppy Culture discussion group-- oh my gosh, somebody from Holland put up the most amazing video of their miniature bull terriers going to a facility in Holland somewhere that holds puppy parties. Yeah, wasn't that incredible? And so everything was new. They had all equipment, and they had ball pits, and it was just-- it was great. So that's really cool. You know, we don't have those that I know of here. And to be honest, as a breeder I would worry about taking my puppies off premises just for-- you know, they're not vaccinated at this age. But it was a very interesting idea. His tail wagging. Hi, handsome. Oh, look at how handsome you are. He's a handsome guy. They're smart. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're ready to go. Are you a wise guy? Yeah, they're ready to go. If we go by Phil's premise, if you want to show and keep them, you're going to have about eight, nine puppies. I know, they're beautiful. I know, I know, it's a problem. Jane, can you explain active versus passive? Oh, I know who asked that question. Yes, I will when we do the next rotation. Just give me one second. Oh, look at you. Wow! [CLICKS] Yeah, Phineas is doing great. Phineas is doing great. Yeah, yep, it's right here in my hand. There you go. There you go. There you go. Come on, you can make it. [CLICKS] Yes! [INAUDIBLE] Meatball. Good puppy! [PHONE ALARM RINGING] OK, time to rotate. Oh, good pupper! He's a good puppy. Yay! He's a good puppy! OK, so-- That one's Idgie. Who? Idgie. Idgie. Gina, will you remind me about the passive versus active enrichment? Will you remind me about that question because it's going to take me a little time to-- yes, so, OK. Oh, Idgie. Yeah, you guys ready? All right, go. [INTERPOSING VOICES] Oh, look at her go! Heidi, isn't she a pip? I know. She is. Look at you. So when you look at her and you look at Sassy B, yeah, no, I mean, they're very similar, but this one-- this one is so-- she's quick. She is. She's ninja quick. [INTERPOSING VOICES] She's cautious about this, but she's not fearful. So this one-- yeah, OK, all right, she's doing OK. She's doing OK. You guys are doing great. Is that Phineas? He is finny. He's a funny guy. He's a funny guy. Yeah. He's kind of like great grandpa Augie. He's just a good guy. Oh my god, he's so cute. I know. He's absolutely on his game here. Yeah, he's adorable. Oh, look at Ethel's. Ethel is doubling up on the tippy boards. Nice. Now, have they eaten before this? Oh, that's a great, great question. Tammy asked, have they eaten before this? And this is what we call establishing operations. The puppies are hungry. They're not so hungry that they're losing their mind or their blood sugar, but we fed them a lot last night, and made sure that there was some left over so they could you know, still have something to eat in the pen, and then we only gave them milk this morning so that they would be hungry enough to be motivated by the food. You've escaped. An escapee. Yup, that's typical. He's like, I kind of like that dog walk thing. [INTERPOSING VOICES] And see, what Heidi is doing is super important to play with them a little bit. Look at her go. Yay! Nicely done. [INAUDIBLE] Are you? Oh yeah, I have more food. I have more food for the next round. Jane, would you recommend that you wait until this age before introducing this equipment? Hold on a second. Hold on, let me take that. [PHONE ALARM] OK, time to rotate. Now, did they all do all three already? Or no, there's one more. OK. Do you have enough-- do you need more food Tammy, or are you OK? I have only a little bit left. I have some more here. Hold on, let me-- We have enough for [INAUDIBLE] Oh, Gina has it. Thank you. Gina's got some. OK. Two questions. Would you recommend waiting until this age to introduce the equipment? And then the question about passive versus active. OK, let me just speak to the food. Let me just-- hold on. I'll mark it-- if you can see this-- Doing a little pee pee. OK, that's all right. Clean up. So what I did was I chopped up some-- this is-- can they see how small that is? This is smoked brisket that I happened to make and have, but you know, roast beef, any kind of meat. I chopped up into teeny, teeny, tiny pieces. This is hot dogs that I chopped up, and then I just nuked just not to really cook them, but just get some of the grease out, and I put them in a paper towel. The reason I use two different foods is because you can run into satiation. Like they get tired of one food. So sometimes if you break out another food for the second round, it's better. It's better to switch up the foods. These puppies, obviously, are going to work anyway. It doesn't really matter, but it's just a trick to use it with a less motivated puppy. Yeah, you can go over here. Gina's going to take care of that. All right, you ready guys? Aw, I got to put you down? I'm going to put you down. Start. OK, so Gina, what was-- oh OK, so I'm going-- again, I'm going to take the active versus passive one in between, and I'm going to talk about-- what was it? Had they-- what was the other question? The other question was would you wait until this age to introduce them to this equipment? Well, I think that goes back to what I was talking about before where if you had a-- I like to hold back on this equipment and have them meet this in this milieu. And the reason being that it is teaching them that they're doing something challenging a little bit scary with people is very rewarding and safe. However, if you did have a breed like-- I'm just-- you know, some breeds like maybe a sheltie that's a less of a bold breed, especially with strangers, you really might want to pre-introduce this. And absolutely, you could start teaching this. I mean, we start-- oh, Tammy. That was operator error. We start our dogs-- we power them up at four weeks old. So absolutely as early as you like you could introduce this equipment. You know, it's difficult much before six weeks to really get an operant response, a training response from them. But absolutely, you could introduce this equipment as early as the puppies are going to work for you. Yeah, that's it. See, now, Heidi's spotting him a little bit, which is good. Good. Good puppy. Everybody's doing great here. Imogen's like-- she's eyeballing the dog walk. Everybody likes the dog walk, and that's how it is when they grow up too. They all like the dog walk. Yeah, that's true. The next question is do you have just one puppy party per litter? OK, that's a good question. All right, so that's it for this round, and that will-- so let's just-- we're going to talk about a couple of things for a couple of minutes, and then bring them out again. So we typically have one puppy party. That's all we do, but we are-- especially, this is a litter of nine, and even though I'm a professional full time dog trainer, there's just about no way that I'm going to have the time to take care of seven adult dogs, and train my dogs that are in training, and train all nine puppies. So Gina comes over, and Gail has come over a couple times, and I do have all my students-- whenever anybody comes, even a puppy buyer, I enlist them to train puppies. So we only have one formal puppy party, but these puppies are constantly being trained, and passed from hand to hand. Every person that comes in this house, I ask them to do some kind of task with-- even if it's just one or two of the puppies. Again, really challenging when you have a litter of big puppies. I mean, a big litter of puppies. I just did a seminar for the Rhodesian Ridgeback National Specialty, and someone that had been at one of my previous seminars who was a dog trainer told me that she and a group of two other dog trainers worked a litter of 14 Rhodesian Ridgebacks for the breeders. So they actually shifted through. The breeder hired them, they came in, and the people who got those puppies were just like these are the most amazing puppies ever. So it's really great for a breeder to team up with some dog trainers because it's just-- first of all, most breeders don't really love dog training. Otherwise, they would be dog trainers. And second of all, it's too much. I mean, it's too much work to really do it all by yourself if you have more than two or three puppies. OK, so I'm going to speak to the question about passive versus active enrichment. And just so you know, I'm just putting a little air in between these sessions because I want to be sure that the puppies really get a chance to rest, and maybe even sleep a little bit. And it's beyond the scope of this broadcast to talk about it in detail, but it's distributed learning. That the brain literally has a process of cleaning out that it does, that helps consolidate learning, and embed memories, and literally clean out just the waste byproducts in the brain of thinking. So if we can actually get the puppies even just to fall sleep for a couple of minutes, it's going to be hugely beneficial as far as embedding this information in their mind. So talking about passive versus active enrichment. You know, it's really great that breeders in recent years have done amazing things with enriching environments with their puppies. I mean, it used to be they had them in a pen, you put some newspaper on the floor, and at eight weeks you got them out of the house as fast as you could because it stunk, and you just wanted to get them out. And you know, breeders have really gone to a completely different model of having an enriching environment, and trying to do some pre-socialization with puppies because what we've seen over the years is that the puppies that do the best are the ones that have stayed with the breeders a little bit longer because the breeder has a surer hand when it comes to this thing, and makes sure that they have a better socialization experience. And also having an enriching environment. Not just a bare pen, but toys, there's adventure boxes. Everybody has an adventure box. It's like a PVC frame with stuff hanging off of it. We don't do it just because our puppies would destroy it, but puppies love it. It's a great thing. Toys, unstable surfaces, different kinds of surfaces. All of this is what I call passive enrichment, and it's very important to have passive enrichment. But it's also very important to have what I call active enrichment, which is problem solving and learning. And if you go to-- you're on if you're watching this-- PuppyCulture.com. If you go to the learning center, I wrote an entire article on the enrichment effect, and the effect that that enrichment has on the brain. It literally causes the brain to grow larger, and for the puppy, to be able to learn better, and have better emotional responses. However, there is a difference-- there's really three different kinds of enrichment. There's what I call passive enrichment, which is the toys, and the enriching environment, and their playmates. And then there's an active enrichment, which is the problem solving and the learning, which is what's happening here. That we are actually presenting a task in conjunction with people, and asking them to perform a task, and they're learning that that's reinforcing. As opposed to if we just left this in the-- if we just left this stuff in weaning pen, yeah, I mean, they'd use it, and it would be enriching to some extent, but not in the same way as us saying look, here's the food. You need to figure out how you're going to get it. Oh, you're going to touch the board. You're going to get clicked. You're going to get food. This is active enrichment. It's completely different. It's problem solving. And then the third element is exercise. And the third kind of enrichment is exercise is the third prong of enrichment. And all three of these types of enrichment worked together in an additive way, meaning to say, that any one of them has a value, but when you put them all three together, they each work on a different part of the brain, and they leverage each other. So it's really important to have these active enrichment experiences for the puppies. And again, this is where if you're a breeder, you know, you might want to bring in a dog trainer. We have a number of dog trainers that have come to my Puppy Culture seminars that are spreading the word and doing this. If you get on the Puppy Culture discussion group, and you're a breeder, and you want somebody to train-- what's that honey? Facebook. Oh, Facebook Puppy Culture discussion group on Facebook, and you're a breeder, and you want to enlist the help of a trainer, put it out there. There are trainers out there that would be very willing to come in and do this for you. OK, I think we're ready for the next round. Yes, let's bring in the next puppies. So I'm just going to talk to-- yeah, we'll talk. Oh, so I'm going to-- now, let's step it up here. Let's do this. We're going to switch out this. We're going to now have the-- yeah, let's do that one, and let's do the higher legs on the dog walk. Actually, are these the same size legs? I don't think they are. We may have to do this DIY dog walk because I don't think the legs-- Should take the chute off it now. No, let's do the chute. Yeah, let's do the chute now. They're ready. So now with the chute-- these ladies are experienced agility competitors. So they know enough how to start the puppy with the chute, but let me explain. So what you're going to do is hold the chute completely open, and call them through, and then just very gradually as they get better-- and she's going to demonstrate. You're going to kind of let the middle sag a little bit, and a little bit, and a little bit. Exactly, just like that until they have to push through. And if I know these puppies, they'll be running back and forth in about two seconds. OK. Ethel, how are you doing on your thing? This guy is good. Yeah, they're like whatever Yeah, they're like-- They're pros. They're pros. They're doing everything. They're shaking [INAUDIBLE] OK. So we'll do-- so maybe Ethel then, you know, to step it up with them, maybe what you do is you try and teach them to stay on, and just go back and forth this way on this one. You know, spin them around. OK, awesome, awesome, awesome. All right, you guys ready to go? Oh, wait, do we need refills of food? How's everybody doing? We got refills. We got some refills earlier. They're going to need more, Gina-- the dog walk people. I guess we do a lot of feeding, huh? Well, it's OK. That's good. All right, you ready? We're ready. Let's train puppies. It's a very brave puppy. All right, let's see how Meena does. Oh, Meens. Little Meens. This is going to be more challenging. It's a little taller. Meena. [CLICKER] [KISS NOISES] [CLICKS] Nicely done. [CLICKER] Sparky. Oh yeah, there you go. Sparky is a super star. Good boy. Sparky is a super star. Good boy, Spark. [CLICKS] There you go. Good. Well done. [CLICKS] Well done. Not backwards just yet. What is it, honey? [INAUDIBLE] Yeah, I see that. I see that. Just watch out, Heidi, that she doesn't-- because it's a narrower dog walk. Right, that's it. So she's probably-- [CLICKER CLICKS] Yeah, good girl. Yes. [CLICKS] Good. So you want to click her step there, Heidi. There! [CLICKS] You see when she takes-- there. [CLICKS] Yeah, that's it. Good job, Meens. [CLICKS] Nice. Heidi, very good click. Very good click. Let's do one more that way. [CLICKS] Sparky's like I'm going to go, just come right through. Going down is the hard stuff. [CLICKS] Yes. OK, Jane, you have a couple questions. OK. The first is could you give us ideas on what kind of training you ask people that come into your home to do with the puppies? OK. The next question is do you ever have two litters at one time? [LAUGHING] Do I have rocks in my head? No. I think everybody in this room can answer that. And then the next question is would it be ideal to have a human lunch in between the first and two sessions. This person has a very large blood hound litter. Oh, interesting. OK, that's a really, really good question. OK, so give me the first one again. The first was ideas on what type of training you-- OK, I got it. I got it. So we definitely work on manding. Manding is the number one thing that I have everyone come in and work on, and usually manding individually, but especially the advanced manding in the x pen, in the weening pen. We absolutely do have everybody that comes over work on that. Recalls is a huge one. I really feel that if you can send the puppies home with manding and a good recall, the puppy owner really has everything they need to deal with these puppies. We use the recall for everything in our house. I mean, any time there's any kind of problem or they're into anything, it's a recall. The recall is probably the single most important behavior for them to learn. Other things, walking on leash, which actually, these puppies will be starting their loose leash walking next week without a leash, but that's another great behavior to have them learn. Aw, look at her go. Meens, you good girl. Oh OK, whoops. It's time to-- time to-- I kind of lost it there. Yes, time to rotate. We got to rotate. That's what happens when you answer questions, which is why you need a timer because you will train these puppies for 10 minutes before you know it. OK, so the lunch. So really great question, and yes, absolutely. If I were not broadcasting this, I would say yes, it would be great to have a longer-- I'm going to start this. It would be-- you guys can go. It would be great to have a longer break in between, and do the human lunch in between, except that we do also have wine. So that sometimes doesn't work out for the best. But what we normally do is we would do the two rounds with these puppies, and then we would eat lunch, and let them just play, and then take them out as a group afterwards, and just play with them on the equipment. So they get two formal sessions. Then they get just kind of a play session while we're making lunch. Then we eat our lunch and then they come out. They go away while we're eating lunch. That's when they really fall asleep, and then they come back again, and we just do a free play session here, which you guys won't get to see that. But we could leave the camera on, I guess. People who want to watch us eat lunch. Yay! There you go. Yay! Yeah, but sleep, I mean, if they can-- oh, Bijoubie, big girl. Wide load. What was the third question? Whether or not you'd have multiple litters at one time. Oh, multiple litters at one time. Yeah, I mean, one is enough. OK, the next question is if you take the puppies out for a walk or a little trip, is that considered active enrichment? That's a really good question. Actually, that is-- and I left out-- is that we do take a walk after this with the puppies. That's traditionally, if we're having-- if the weather is good, we will take the puppies for a little walk. But is it active enrichment? And you know, I would put it more under exercise, passive enrichment because they are learning. I mean, it's not that they're not. And I'm not diminishing the importance. It's hugely important to learn to take walks, and go with people, and that's reinforcing. But if you're not actually-- hold on a second. [PHONE ALARM RINGING] OK, rotate. And you know, it's really funny. It's an interesting question because it could be active enrichment if you did a little flash training sessions of heeling in there, or loose leash walking, which-- loose leash walking, as you know from Puppy Culture-- actually, it's the butt shot. It's inevitable. Sorry. No, I did that the entire tracking. [PHONE RINGING] OK, hold on. I'm sorry. The entire tracking-- oh, go ahead. Start, guys. The puppy tracking broadcast that we did, a lot of it was my rear end, which it's just the way it worked out. So if you put in little flash sessions of loose leash walking, which at this age, is done off leash-- yes, I mean, it could be an active enrichment. But if it's just walking, I mean, that's passive enrichment, but really important passive enrichment. [CHUCKLES] They're cute. Good puppy. I'll just sit. You're a good puppy. I'm not going to walk. I'm just going to sit. Yeah, Lefty-- he's also slide down. You guys are all doing a really, really good job. [INTERPOSING VOICES] Yeah, look at her go. She's like, I'm going to eat the pillow. [INTERPOSING VOICES] Come on, big girl. You know, can I do the reveal on [INAUDIBLE]?? Is that up on Facebook yet? Go onto Ellen's page and see if it's there. [CLICKS] Yay. Yes. Good girl. [CLICKS] Yes, good puppy. Good. You got it buddy, yes! Yay! Yeah, good job. He's a good job. Coming around. He wants to do it that way again. Aw, so brave. So brave. I know, it's so silly to go down hill, huh. All right, you ready? Come on baby doll, you can do it. Down is a little scarier. I know, but we're going to get through it. Good girl. You and me against the world, buddy. Let's go. Here, I got your foot. I'm not going to let you fall. Is it on there yet, Gina? Watch that foot. OK. Oh, backing up is good. [PHONE ALARM RINGING] You know what that piano means. Backing up is great too. Is that enough, buddy? Backing up is so great. [KISSY NOISES] Oh, is it too early to breed Sushi? I know, I know. It's too early to breed Sushi. It's killer, it's killer. How many more groups do we have? Two. We have two more groups. So I would get through all of this and then if you needed [INAUDIBLE]. I don't know how much time-- OK, so what we're going to do is we'll do one more group, and then we'll hold off on the third group so I can go over the equipment with you guys. All right, so let's do this round. So six minutes here, and then I'm going to go over the equipment so you guys know what the DIY-- how to make your own equipment for the party, and then I'll do the broadcast schedule. You ready to play, Catfish? All right, ready? You sure? You're going to wake up? You've got to wake up. Tell Ellen, yes. If you do, you've got to wake up. Ellen, yes. OK, train puppies. By the way, it's tiring for the people too, right? It [LAUGHTER] [INAUDIBLE] I can do it all day. Heidi's like when's my puppy party? [CLICKS] Good, good. He's, like wow, that one's pretty tall. So now, he's a little worried. So Tam, feed him down between his front legs. That a girl. That's Bikini Bob. Jane, when I had my puppy party for my Puppy Culture, nobody wanted to go home. Yeah. My puppy slept for eight hours straight for the first time. Fantastic. I know, it's great. They're tired [INAUDIBLE]. Oh, here he comes, the super star. Yay. Good boy. Jane? Yes? Oh, OK. OK, so big announcement. Ellen Griffin, and Saki, and if you saw our Puppy Tracking broadcast, you know Ellen. Saki is [INAUDIBLE] and she is one of Daphne's daughter. Not from the Puppy Culture litter, but from the other Puppy Culture litter, and she does appear in the film. They just this morning became the second bull terrier team ever to earn the AKC's tracking dog title. So we are-- Woohoo! Yay! [CLAPPING] --beyond excited about it. Beyond excited. So that puppy tracking stuff works, you guys. We're going to have the recorded broadcast up soon so you can watch it. [CLICKING] Don't fall. It's just all about eating, bud. Yeah, it is. It is. It's all about eating. Great day for us. Great day for us. [INTERPOSING VOICES] Yeah, who is that? Oh, that's Sassy B. Sassy. Good Catfish. Oops. No jumping off. You're not permitted to do that. Look at you. Look at you. Catfish is a little bit more timid there. He said, this is higher than the last one [PHONE ALARM RINGING] OK, time to rotate. Yeah, it is higher. Oh, good baby boy. Mean Aw, look, you want to come? Yup. Bob wants to come over. Bob's ready. Bobby Z. Are we on it, Bobby? Yeah, oh, Bobby is totally on it. [INTERPOSING VOICES] Oh, and he's brindle. You don't know how much you're needed. You just don't know. You have to give that one up, unfortunately. But you get Sassy B. Sassy B is-- I'll take a Sass. Come here Sassy girl. Yeah, Sassy's family to Heidi, she's used to that. Heidi also was a cop. So she can handle it. You're small. You're a small potato. OK, go. [INAUDIBLE] do some work. She's a detective. Is that what you said? Yeah, she is a detective. We got a little startled by the chute. We'll make a noise. That's a good girl. [CLICKS] Yay, Sassy B. The dogs don't seem to respect my authority even more. [CHUCKLES] I'm going to hold it up. You want to stick your hand in there? Good, Sass. Here Sassy. Sassy. Oh, he has to poop, I think. So that may happen. Good job, Buddy . If you open it up all the way so you can see your face. There you go. There you go, Buddy. Yes. Yeah. He's like, I can see her. She's over here. She's over here. [INTERPOSING VOICES] Yeah, that's good. Again, this is a great example of you know, he's a little worried about going through it. It's no big deal. He can walk on it. He can do whatever he wants to. OK, there's a question. Does it matter where in the process they are when you switch the puppies after the two minutes? No. If the puppy is like about to take a big step, would you continue on until that puppy took a big step? Yeah, I understand. So the question is well, yeah-- no, I mean, I don't. I just-- for these parties-- and let me make sure I set my alarm, speaking of which. No, I just do the two minutes because it really doesn't matter that much. It's more, you know-- it's more about the process here of the radiation. If I were training, you know, yeah, I do-- when I train little puppies, I do try and bring a timer because again, you can go 10 minutes training them, and not even blink an eye, and not realize. So if-- yeah. If I was about to have a little-- what? Walk over here. Oh, OK. If I was-- if I was about to have like a you know, a breakthrough with a puppy, yeah, I might do one more round. But for this, it's more important just to keep it rolling that they get their six minutes of total training without worrying about-- it doesn't even really matter if they do this stuff. [PHONE ALARM RINGING] OK, rotate. It doesn't even really matter. Like Catfish, for instance, has not gone through the chute. It doesn't matter. Yeah, he'll have another turn sometime. Who needs Catfish? I do. You know, probably when we do our free play at the end-- [INAUDIBLE] is a definite. And we get snacks. And we get little Bijou-ey. Sassy. You're going over here, Sass. No, you're getting-- that's Zucchini Bob. That's nothing little about that. Yeah, no. OK, you ready? I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Train puppies. We're waiting on [INAUDIBLE] OK. That's all right. You guys OK on food? And you have-- Oh, Catfish has escaped. Catfish is going to [SHHH] He's swimming back over here. School's out School's out. You guys are good on food, right? Yeah. Catfish is leaving. All right. He's not interested in the food? Wow, look at this. So Ethel, just try playing with him. So you what, he probably-- come here you. Come here you. You-- you give him kisses. Oh! [KISS NOISES] Oh, there we go. We woke up again? Good boy. Yay. He's a good boy. That's a good boy. No, he wants you to play with him. Just play with him. So you know, this puppy here has probably reached satiation, Catfish. So just go on Catfish for a second, honey. So this puppy's reached satiation. He doesn't care about the food anymore. So Ethel's just going to use some social reinforcers. You don't need the clicker any more. Do you want to use the clicker? No, you don't need the clicker. Just put him on the-- oh, now he wants the whole darn thing. So maybe he is not reached satiation yet. Maybe I was wrong about that. Come here. Oh, he's awake again. He might have been sleeping. But again, just troubleshooting. If you have a puppy that doesn't seem to be responding to the food, a lot of times social enforcers like patting and praise is going to work better. Again, if you've seen Puppy Culture, you saw how I worked with Rocco at five weeks using completely social reinforcers. No food at all. It was really powerful for him. Jane, you do two minute sessions in the puppy party. What do you do when you're training individually? How long are training sessions? Yeah, I mean, I try and keep it to two to three minutes, ideally. You know, ideally, I would say the most-- when you're teaching a novel behavior-- hang on one second. There we go. Come through. Yay! [PHONE ALARM RINGING] OK. Now have they rotated through? Yes. OK, so we're just-- I'm going to-- we'll do the last bit, but because it's been an hour, I just want to talk about the equipment, and also answer that question about-- so just hold off on the next group for a bit. So-- Get my sea legs back, Yeah, get your sea legs back. Exactly, you've been down there. That happens when you get older. It's like are my knees worse than my back? Right? Which one am I going to sacrifice. So OK, the question of how long to train. There's a distinction per age and also per is it a novel behavior. So when I'm teaching something new, even to an adult dog, three minutes is enough. It's great to do these sort of micro sessions when you're teaching something truly, truly new. And I'd much rather do three two-minute sessions than one half an hour session. I mean, in reality, I'd say three minutes is about how long I normally would train a novel behavior with a puppy or an adult dog. It's enough. They've done studies on this. The post office most famously did a big study on teaching workers to use complicated equipment, and bottom line, they found that they basically could spend a tenth of the amount of time training people if they spaced it out over three days, rather than just giving them this huge mass of like hours and hours of training. People and dogs really can't concentrate on a new task for more than a very short amount of time. And again, we go into this in Puppy Culture, and we have a whole explanation of why this is so. So what I want to do is go over the do it yourself equipment. OK, so we are going to have the commercial equipment here. Let me just show you this. Yeah, if you could bring out the other dog walk too. So the commercially made equipment that we had designed and made for us, I mean, it's really nice, sturdy stuff. This is a-- what is, honey? Called some kind of plastic board. Or what is that name of this? It's a plastic that is waterproof. I'm not going to say it's indoor/outdoor, but this is just going to be really durable, and very stable. And I'll talk more about that in a little bit. So let me show you. Especially for breeders. Especially for breeders because you can use it again and again. But anyway, if you do want to do it yourself, it's a fun project. This is an eight by-- Mark, is it eight by one? I believe this is eight by one. One by eight. You could do wider, whatever you want for your puppies. It's wood. We spray painted it, and again, you can see this is a little bit of a downside of the DIY is that when you store it, because we have it so it comes apart, and you can store it flat. I'm going to show you. Take it all apart. So the way we designed it is that we can actually just store it this way. So it does not take up a lot of space on our shelf. So this is actual agility hinges that we bought, and you can get them online from any of the major agility companies, and it's nice because it has these pins that go in and out easily. And then we painted the wood. We painted the wood first. So this is all painted. And then, very importantly, we laid out the yoga matting, sprayed the wood, and put the wood on the yoga matting, and then cut around the edge. If you try and cut the piece of yoga matting first, and put it on here, it's going to be really difficult. We used adhesive spray. Adhesive spray. Yeah, we used adhesive spray. So again, paint the backside and the edges of the wood. Adhesive spray on the wood and the yoga matting. Put it on the yoga matting, adhere it, and then take a utility knife, and cut along the edge. Mark actually-- I mean, because he's Mark, and he's handy, and has all the stuff he actually-- what do you call this router on the edge? What do you call-- I sanded and rounded it. He sanded it on the edge. So it's really a nice thing and it's adorable. It's an adorable pink color. So that's that. And then this is-- what do you call these, honey? Just plastic PVC cup holders. Thingies. These are thingies. Home Depot. Flanges, maybe. Did you get them at Home Depot? Or a plumbing supply. Did we order them online? No, you can get them at the plumbing store. Plumbing store. So you know, you just screw these in, and these are one inch, I believe. I'm not sure. Is that right? And then you just cut your PVC to the length that you want, and they again, they go right in. You know, it's a sweet thing, and it will last a long time. Although again, you know, the paint tends to the laminate over time a little bit. How long are the individual pieces of the dog walk? I have a tape measure on my desk. Tape measure on the desk. You know, and again, you can vary that per-- you can kind of customize that per your breed. Oh, thanks. Here we go. So these are-- We got it, Gina. are 18 inches. That's right. They are 18 inches. So they're eight by-- actually, and this is nine. So this is a 10 inch. It's a 10 inch piece. 10 inch piece. So it's 18 by 10. But again, I mean, if you have Leonberger puppies. I know we have a number of-- and there was a bloodhound breeder. What did the bloodhound breeder ask? Something about she had-- Having lunch in between. Having lunch, that was her question. So but if, you know, you had big puppies, you might want to go a little bit wider. For the ones that we-- so that's a DIY on the dog walk. Now, for the ones that we had manufactured, we did go with a wider to be a more universal for puppies. This one is-- It's 10. Yeah, this is 11, so this is a 12 inch piece, right? So this would be 12 inch. Now, this is Mark's ingenuity. This is our-- this is our chute. This is-- what do you call that? Pipe insulation. You get it at Home Depot, it's really cool because it has adhesives. So it just-- you can just put it right on there. You just pull the stripping off, and you just put the adhesive on here, and it just makes a really nice cushion here. This is yoga matting on the inside. This is a sonotube, what they call sonotube. It's actually cardboard, but we painted it. And you know, just like that. And this is, frankly, just because it looks cute. It's bolted onto the wood. Oh, does it? [LAUGHTER] Oh, I thought it was-- I thought it was just-- oh, you're right. It is. OK, so this is attached-- You can see who made this, by the way. Yeah. The two of us together was-- I did the painting. He did the-- he did the-- Yeah, I did the cute part. So what you did was he-- so what he did was he screwed it down onto the wood, then put this over, then put the straps, and then screwed this. Actually screwed the straps down, and then tied them up to hold it on. And then finally, for our little pieces of-- I'll just pull it over to the middle here. For our little-- Nice slippers, by the way. Yeah, my sheep slippers. So-- She has nine whole terrier puppies. [INAUDIBLE] she has clothes on. My pajamas all have holes in them. OK, so this is our DIY one. Now, what-- again, the dimensions on this are-- this is 20 inches, and again, Mark, you know, he sanded off the edges and stuff so it would be nice. Same deal with the yoga matting. Remember, you spray this part first face down, cut it around. And then this is actually a door stop. You put it on your wall so when you throw your door open, that's what-- Yeah, it protects your-- we got that, again, at Home Depot. And then Mark filled it with-- what is it? Expansion foam. Expansion foam. Just to give it some rigidity. Screwed it on and then filled it and glued it. You glued it on, right? Like screwed and glued it. How did you screw it? Because it comes apart. Oh, OK. Shows you again you know, how I know. She was busy painting. I was busy painting and cleaning the puppy pen. But that's what we use for that. But, I mean, people have-- [INAUDIBLE] Yeah, people will-- [INAUDIBLE] Yes, exactly. I mean, you can cut a ball in half. This one is actually-- A teeter. A teeter. And I mean, the reason why-- part of the reason why we went with this size, as opposed to a bigger one, is that we wanted something that would collapse, and you know, store in a small space because that was something that a lot of people had as an issue. And to be honest, we really liked this a lot because it teaches-- this is good. I mean, don't get me wrong. I really like this. But I like this, particularly, if a dog is going to go on to agility because that whole thing of controlling the pivot point is really important for them, and it's a good way to get it at a young age that they learn to do it. And this is just like kind of a little-- this is like this, but very small. So just-- Cavaliers. Yeah, for-- well, for just front feet. Just to teach them-- just as a first approximation, particularly if you have a dog that's more-- gerbils. Your gerbil litter. That's more fearful, this is really good to use. So there's a couple questions about the sizing. OK. Specifically what size do bull terriers grow up to be and would this size be appropriate for, let's say, a Basenji? Yes, absolutely. I would say it would be appropriate for a six week old Basenji. Absolutely. You know, either one of these would be fine. I mean, this one's a little bit more of a challenge because it's narrower, and you have to spot them a little bit more, but you know, either one. If somebody was going to-- if one of the puppies was on a piece of equipment, and they were really quite afraid of it, would you call it a day, and then come back later to it? Well, I'm not sure I understand that question because they should never be on a piece of equipment and really afraid of it. Like if you know, whatever-- like I think we saw, was it catfish? He didn't want to go through this thing. So I mean, we're never going to let them get to the point where they're scared. So you don't let them get to the point where they shut down. Absolutely not. But you know, you could have a litter of puppies of some breeds-- I mean, I've seen puppies that are just afraid of people at this age, and they come out, and they're like, whoa, this is all too much for us. And then, you know, you put all the equipment away, and you just sit there, and hope that they come and visit the people. I mean, you really do have to rate the experience of the puppies. It's almost, in some ways, not fair to show these bull terrier puppies because it's not many breeds are going to be as outgoing as these puppies are. But you know, it's just really important to rate the experience. And again, Elena and Gale did a great job with Catfish. They just said all right. Like gale said, you can stand on top of it. That's OK. Just get used to the feeling of the nylon under your feet. I mean, that's enough. That was enough for him. Would you use this kind of technique in a shelter situation? Absolutely. Well, shelter puppies? Yeah. Absolutely. I mean, even more so. So important and so excited that we have so many shelters and rescue groups embracing this because it's just doubly important for those puppies to have these experiences. Hi. Hi. Sorry, internet. We were cooking. We took the time to get our food started to get warmed up. You know, the most important thing. The most important thing. But you know, again, not to be discounted for dogs to learn about having a lot of people in the house, laughing, enjoying themselves. I mean, seriously. It's a skill. It's important. All right, so back to the expansion foam. There was a question about what we fill these with. So these are little door stop things. Door guard that Mark says they have a back that he actually can screw them on. And the question is what do you fill them with. Never mind, he got it. Do you want me to wait a minute? We're good. OK, so the expansion from-- what's it called, Mark? Or Lou said. Lou said yellow expansion foam. One of the brand names is Great Stuff. Great stuff? It comes in a spray can. It's like when you'd seal around the window or door and you can fill it. You can fill it with anything. You can fill it with silicone. Probably the expansion, though, is harder. Cement. Yeah, it's harder. You can put anything you want. Money. Money. Or you know, and again, what a lot of people will do is cut a-- if you can find any kind of ball, or even a tennis ball, cut it in half, and they'll just screw that through or attach it. If you look for plans for bouge boards online, there'll be a million different ideas, and it just is as creative as you want to be. Obviously, this is really a very small tip. But what another thing for a DIY that you could do is get a PVC pipe and just put a-- Pipe straps. Pipe straps around it. And then again, it would just tip this way, but you could vary the board by what size PVC. You could make it as challenging or more or less challenging as you want. What did you use for the fabric portion of the chute? I just went to Joann's fabric and just got some-- this is just like a windbreaker nylon. But this, I got this at Joann's. Oh, and you know, that's really also a good question. This is elastic in here. So we put an elastic band, and then this is fabric we got from Joann's. And then also-- and I'm glad you brought it up. We did a French seam on the inside so it wouldn't fray. So what you have to-- Oh, I was wondering [INAUDIBLE]. Well, no. It's actually important. I think you might have to describe what a French seam is. Yeah, Mark, can you zoom in on that so that they can see what it looks like? See the-- Well, you've got to quit moving. OK. Quit moving [INAUDIBLE]. And I'll explain what that is. Captain smart ass here. Yeah. Yes, my husband. Oh, the old French seam. OK. OK, so here's-- I was wondering about the French seam. So here's how you make a French seam. Now, let me see if I can get this straight or not because it's a little bit like one of those things. So what it is is that you would put your elastic in. So you-- or did she put in-- I guess she put it in the elastic afterwards. So you do the French seam. Who's she? My mother. Oh, so your mother did it. Yeah, my mother did this. So you do the French seam first. Yes, OK, so you have the outside of the chute. Now, this is the right side of, you know, the correct outside of the chute. So what you would do is you would put the raw edges, close it, and put the raw edges out here, and then sew that down. OK, so you'd leave a little edge, but you'd have that raw edge. Again, so now you hold it up, and you look well, that doesn't make any sense because now the raw edge is on the outside. But here's what you do. Then you turn it inside out, and you take that raw edge, and you actually pull it up this way. So you pull it inside of this and then so that down. Or you could Google raw edge and look on YouTube. It's French seam. French seam. Or you can just buy this, which is actually-- Yeah, they actually have a-- again, this is professionally made. So it has that-- I don't know what. It's some crazy machine that sews it up, zigzag, encases it. It's great stuff. Don't worry about it. It's great stuff. This is really heavy. They're probably all going to pee on the-- did they pee or anything in there? I didn't notice. You didn't? Nope, nobody did any pee or anything? You guys-- We peed them all right before the break, actually. You think they're good? OK. Before we started the second round. Oh, thank you very much. Thank you very much. There were two that didn't though. You know what, if they-- oh, by the way, are we still online? Because I just want to point out, look, I mean, these carpets-- if you can get Kilim carpets, get them. These are really nice Kilim carpets, but they're fantastic because you take them out in the driveway, and you hose them off, and we do that. These are like the Bedouin desert grade Kilims and that's what you need. They're super durable. They keep their color. The puppies can pee all over them. We don't care. The puppies are going to pee. I mean, it's going to happen. So you know, you're just better off to get something that you can wash. Everything in here is washable. And then the under pad is something called-- I think is called Healthier Choice, and it's an actual-- It's a memory foam with a waterproof-- It's been slightly chewed. It's been a little damaged. But it actually is waterproof on top because that's gross. You got it, Mark. Thanks for showing them, everyone, how our dogs destroy everything. OK. But you notice, none of us went. No. They're like hey, you have carpets. [INTERPOSING VOICES] We'll have to refresh? Is that why? OK, ready to go? All right, let's start. We've got Phineas. [INTERPOSING VOICES] You were sleeping? Sound asleep. Can we turn this so he can see the shoe? [INTERPOSING VOICES] Phineas is like what do you want from me, I was sleeping. Phineas will be awake in about one minute. Mr Meatball. [CLICKS] Good. Mr. Meatballs. [CLICKS] Good job. [INAUDIBLE] Yeah, that's a good step. Have to step all the way. Don't keep leaning. Can you take a step? No. Let's a take a step with your back feet. No, he can't. Let him get off, honey. [INAUDIBLE] the back feet too. He's like, well, you know what? The back feet are kind of [INAUDIBLE].. We got to take back feet-- Yay! You found them! [CLICKER] Back feet's the hard part. Yeah, good dog. You found them. Yeah, do not launch, please, buddy. Yes, here you go. Here you go. [CLICKS] So Luigi gas no problem with it? No problem. How was Luigi on the-- I didn't really pay attention. How-- oh, you haven't done him on this yet. That's right. I was going to say, yeah. [INAUDIBLE] Come on baby doll. Meatball. Come, come. Yes! [CLICKS] There's a good boy. [CLICKS] We can do it. You and me. You and me, baby girl. I know, I know. They're all very cute. Sorry. [INTERPOSING VOICES] Glass of water. OK, I'll take her out. I know honey, I know, but you've got to poop. I know, but you've got to poop. You got to poop. Oh, she has to poop? I know, I know, I know, I know, I know. Let's go straight. Well, [INAUDIBLE]. [SOUND OF WATER RUNNING] [INTERPOSING VOICES] We'll give these guys an extra minute because we have to poop. Imogen's like I'm not going. Let's go outside and potty. Do you guys need a reset? We have one working puppy. [CHUCKLES] Yeah. You guys, maybe we'll get a reset here. All right, we're going to stop. We're going to do a reset. [INAUDIBLE] outside. Yeah, let's just-- you know, we'll just wait for them to come in. So I guess [INAUDIBLE] to just hold them and play with then now. That's really good. Oh, we have some urination. The floor will save this puppy. And we're going to have to [INAUDIBLE] Jane. Yes, honey. Oh, there's some questions? OK. Ugh, breathe on me. [INTERPOSING VOICES] Oh yeah, the name of the brand when you-- it's a Kilim. Here, K-I-L-I-M. I'm just writing it in there. If you go onto eBay and search Kilim, it's like a Persian carpet without the pile. So it's-- [INAUDIBLE] Yeah, they're really good. And you know, you can get them on eBay for really inexpensively. I mean, you can't get them as inexpensively as I got these, but you still can get them very inexpensively. Again, you just take them out in the back on the driveway, and hose them off with a hose and laundry detergent, fantastic. Yeah, you know, I mean, we actually have used a power spray-- a power washer on them, but that kind of breaks down the fibers. I don't recommend it. OK, everybody-- are we on do over for this round? Oh, are we going to do over? Let's do a do over, yeah, when everybody's all set. [INAUDIBLE] She didn't poop. She did eat. They really haven't had much solid food today yet. So you ready? Go. She was thinking about it. She got distracted by yeah. Yeah, yeah. We're going to do our puppy walk after this. [INTERPOSING VOICES] So what else do we got? [INAUDIBLE] Yeah, everybody's looking for the [INAUDIBLE].. We're going to try and get that out, yeah. Do you ever get tired of the demanding audience? No. Beardie Friends, we never get tired of you. No, it's fantastic. It's really-- it's cool for us to kind of have you with us. People are still on watching. [INAUDIBLE] Oh, oh, just record it, and we can always cut it off later if we want to. Let me just go to-- The audio's still on. I know. It's all right. He's running right through. Look at him. There we go, wow. [INTERPOSING VOICES] Good puppy! Watch your paws. [INAUDIBLE] that way. Watch your paws. [CLICKS] Good girl. Who's this one? Either Luigi or Nina. That's Luigi. That's Luigi. Yeah, if it has a penis, it's Luigi. The best way to tell. Or a mustache. Or the mustache, yeah. My mother actually, because she's not that nimble to look over, she just reaches under and she's like oh, OK. [CLICKS] You're going to keep coming? Oh, you're not going to come down yet? That's OK. So how is Luigi doing compared to the other puppies? Is he more worried or about average? About average because they've all nailed up to about here. It's the down that's harder. And then going down they're like wait, this is a little higher than the last one. Yeah, it's hard. So they're all being more cautious. Not fearful, but cautious. Yeah, well, they just-- like literally, it's almost like they just don't know how to do it. And then they want to turn and come off the sides as opposed to coming down all the way. Well, if it's cute, because Jane, they get to the center. So it's scary to go back this way. It's going to be just as scary when they turn this way, but in their head, they're like this was safe before. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Well, plus I think also your posture there probably makes it seem less-- you know, it's like got sides. [CLICKS] Yay! [CLICKS] Good job, Tam. Good. [CLICKS] Good job. Here she comes. Yay! Think you Beardie Friends. We're glad you could be here too. Beardie Friend says let me just say how happy I am to be able to be part of this live Puppy Culture experience. I love how you share this with us. You guys rock. You guys rock for being here. Ooh, that's cute! Did she have all four feet on there? Or he. Oh, that's Phinny. Phin. [KISS NOISES] Come on! She likes [INAUDIBLE]. OK, time to rotate. Yay! You did it! What a good puppy. I know, it was really fun. [INTERPOSING VOICES] And we get-- Phineas. Phineas. So he's the guy that was like pouncing on everybody. He was pouncing, yes. [GASP] Oh, you woke up, didn't you? Hi there. Oh, you woke up. You did, you did. [CLICKS] Hi, buddy. OK, you guys ready? I can't see. I got puppy kisses. All right, let's go. By the way, just so you know that you can't see behind the camera, we have Lou Santiago. Lou, go show yourself over there. Show yourself. Show yourself, Lou. He's our photographer, and Tammy's husband, and he also has a beard. Yes. So he has to come to every party. He's our beard demographic. [CLICKING] Yes! Good job! Look at you! [CLICKING] Look at you. Yeah, I mean, what you'll find is normally, it's more challenging to find men to come to your parties. So if you have-- Ethel's doing great over there Ethel's doing-- yeah, yes, Jimmy, if you're still watching. Exactly. [INTERPOSING VOICES] Yay, wow! Luigi, good boy. Do you ever have children? Well, that's a really great children. Somebody asked do you ever children attend these parties? And like this particular party, generally not because again, I want to be able to control the situation. If these puppies have any kind of bad experience on this equipment, this could really scar them. So with this particular party, we try and have experienced people. Now, we certainly have had-- last weekend, as a matter of fact, we did have a party where we had young children, but there were two young children, and I was able to supervise all interactions between the children and the puppies. And their parents were great experienced dog people too. So yes, we do have parties with children, but not the puppy party where we actually work on the equipment. [CLICK] He's Mister Chrome. He is funny. Let's see if we can get you to go straighten up a little bit. Oh my, he's a character. Rocking back and forth. There it is! Who's a big girl? I think we're about to get him through. See, that wasn't [INAUDIBLE] OK, well, that's a wrap, guys. That was-- [CHEERING AND APPLAUSE] That's all for you, Phineas. That was it. That was it. So maybe we'll take them for a walk now, guys.

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