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The Venus Project World Lecture Tour 2010: a walk in the park with Roxanne+Jacque in Munich Pt.06 (Repository)

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The Venus Project World Lecture Tour a walk in the park with Roxanne & Jacque - How do we get people to understand that actually they're lied at? How do we make them feel that their perspective is based on many assumptions that are not natural? They are caused by manipulation in all perspectives and types. - Yeah, that's the hard part, huh? Essentially what you're telling them is everything that they've learned to believe in sacred is really... they've been lied to and they're suckers. It's a hard thing to say, you know. So, I think the best way is in films because they... it's not somebody standing up and talking to them or confronting them directly. But, uhm, you know, just what people are doing also within the movement, learning how to talk with people. You have to start at their level, so they're not offended, saying that you thought just like they did, so they can identify with you. And sometimes you can go three steps forward and if you see that they're getting angry you might have to go two steps back and agree and then try something else. It's kind of "trial and error" to see what works with what person. And sometimes if you say certain things they might come back later and understand after experiencing some other things. But we think films are the best way... film is the best way to get to people. It can reach more people in the shortest amount of time. You know, people can write about it, do music about it, write... do art, you know, about these new ideas, the Venus Project, the Zeitgeist Movement but mostly talking to people one on one and practicing that. I think that it's a great thing that the Zeitgeist members, after we leave certain places, are beginning to make PowerPoints and make lectures and go out to talk to people. But I think it would be wonderful if they had a place to communicate and put their lecture online so other people can take it and try it and then talk to one another about the questions they received and how they answered them and how much progress they made and so they try other things. It might work different in different countries as well. We've seen that. So, uhm, the more you can talk amongst yourselves the better, also. And another good thing is that people are beginning to take the reading list within the members themselves and read the same books and then go and talk about them, see what they got out of it, each member, and it's a great way to learn different values and starting cooperating some of that things that they learned, what they read and experiment with other people in that way as well and then come back and tell other people what happened, how they answered certain things, what luck they had and what... how they might have answered differently and keep trying different things. You know, you really have to hit your heads against the wall with all this and do all the wrong things to arrive at what works so you just go out and try and don't expect success in the beginning but you will improve. - Uhm... there is... uuuuh... a status in any society at the moment of many assumptions and... there are many things that happen. Let's say the crisis of the banks. And people start to wonder and say "O.K., what's happening there? I don't understand it" and... so... - You wanna know what will turn people around within society? - Yeah. - Okay. Most people, as I mentioned before - I don't know if you asked me the question or maybe Christian had asked me the question - they, as long as the majority of people who are wise enough, intellectually or emotionally, they don't have the luxury to sit back and ask "What's going on in society?". They really have to make a living. And for most people, as long as they're making a living and paying their bills, paying their mortgage, paying their kids' schools, they won't look for anything else. It would take them losing their jobs, losing confidence in their elected leaders, losing their houses and sometimes losing their wives and their family before they look around and say "Something's wrong. We have to look for another alternative." And this is the time to be speaking with people because if things fall apart even more, if they get so militant that you can't go out and speak to people or you'll be more of a target it will be harder. So this is the time to get the information out there so people will have a direction to move toward when they're able to listen to it. Many people can't listen to it right now. - Yeah, I was uh... before I started the Zeitgeist Movement in Munich I was uh... walking all day long in the city around and discussing with many people. And most of them agreed with my words totally. And the only thing that everyone was believing was that he is the only one. But I talked to maybe fifty or sixty people... uuuhm... in this month or maybe more and everyone said that he is the only one who is thinking this way. So, maybe, maybe the potential in the society, I think, is here. And maybe we only need to encourage people not to uuh... to adjust to the society we have because most people don't want it. They just think that they have to do it and maybe if we demonstrate a kind of a practical way how to get out there uhm... they will just uh, yeah, start to adjust to something that seems to be uuh... natural to themselves. - Well, people don't know what to move towards. That's why we feel film is so important to demonstrate. And, you know, sometimes I have a bias if somebody comes up and talks to them. So, film is a good way. You can sit down and look at it. We want them to walk out in the audience and say "Why can't we live like this now?" If you show people something they don't misinterpret it as it goes in their head and it comes out with their past associations that... might not have anything to do with what you're really saying. So, showing people with films is, I think, one of the most appropriate ways. - Yeah, then maybe we need great actions to really encourage people. Maybe demonstrating the film grew really with some kind of, uuh... "beaming" the "Zeitgeist: Addendum" somewhere so that people wonder "Hey, what's going here on?" - Well, everything that the members are doing is really fantastic. They have all sorts of methods to try and get this direction out there and I think if they talk to one another as to what they're doing sharing more of their experiences - which I think they're doing on TeamSpeak now - is a great thing.

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Duration: 7 minutes and 29 seconds
Year: 2010
Country: Germany
Language: English
Producer: TZM Germany
Director: TZM Germany
Views: 49
Posted by: tzmgermany on Aug 6, 2012

Roxanne Meadows im Interview während der -Venus Project- World Lecture Tour 2010 in München On August 31, 2010 Jacque Fresco and Roxanne Meadows of The Venus Project answered questions to members of the Zeitgeist Movement at the Englischer Garten-park in Munich, Germany. Working-Location: http://dotsub.com/view/0d5dc408-7561-48ea-a122-3f5e3507dc49

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