The Zeitgeist-Movement NY Chapter Lu3 & Jonathan & Hans On The Radio Omega Show
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Hans: Welcome Jonathan and Lu3
Hans: lu3 and Jonathan
Hans: Welcome to Radio Show Omega
Lu3: Hey, Hans how are you?
Lu3: Thanks for having me on your show
Hans: Very good, Very good
Jonathan: Hey,thanks for inviting to this show.
Hans: Thats fine
Hans: um what were going to be having,
Hans: what were going to be discussing is there travel into
Hans: what i call travel into conscientiousness.
Hans: General the term conscientiousness
is defined sometime loosely
Hans: but this spectacular situation
Hans: are these young kids
Hans: umm are you know in their adolescent life
Hans: um as they become men
Hans: they already are
Hans: they already are looking at the world
Hans: in a very complex way, and so in fact
Hans: it gives us an opportunity, to address that with them
Hans: and um they are looking at the world
Hans: in terms of problems that exist
Hans: and how they see themselves
Hans: where they situated themselves
Hans: in terms of this problems
Hans: so guys how are you guys doing this morning?
Jonathan: im doing fine
Hans: good
Hans: why don't we start with lu3
Hans: since your older
Hans: so lu3 why don't you tell us
Hans: your trip into what i just mentioned
Hans: your trip into conscientiousness
Hans: and um why is it your here
Lu3: yea i would like to start off my introducing my self.
Lu3: For those of you who have no idea who I am
Lu3: the name is lu3
Lu3:I reside in the Bronx, NY
Lu3: I’m also proud to say that I’m a member of the NY state chapter of the Zeitgeist movement.
Lu3: You know I believe there comes a time in one’s life.
Lu3: when one has to ask himself what really matters in life.
Lu3: you know besides being successful in life you know like having big car and a big house.
I believe even before I heard of the Zeitgeist Movement, Zeitgeist Addendum,
Lu3: I always Sensed that things didn’t seem right,
Lu3: the way it was always told to us;
Lu3: for example
Lu3: i always wondered why is it that some were born poor and others rich
Lu3: you know it never seemed right
Lu3: with the abundance of food in supermarkets
Lu3: to kids being advertised on tv with the need of food to survive.
Lu3: But then i came across the Zeitgeist Movie
Lu3: Lucky enough was presented to me
Lu3: by one of my professors
Lu3: and i gotta tella this movie really blowed my mind.
Lu3: It changed my whole perspective of thinking and seeing the world.
Lu3: It first toke some time to adjust,
Lu3: but its not everyday
Lu3: that you find out that your last 16 years
Lu3: of your life was supposedly a lie and a fake
Lu3: so yea but not only did i realize that we where slowly killing each other.
Lu3: but we as one species in the same planet basically have the same problems.
Lu3: so i have came to my conclusions
Lu3: to support the Zeitgeist Movement
Lu3: and for its proposals.
Lu3: because to me it sounded like the right way of living
Lu3: so till this day i have been devoting my time
Lu3: to finding the right way of living
Lu3: also just recently i joined the NY State Chapter Of The Zeitgeist Movement
Lu3: and so far i have meet some great like minded people like myself
Lu3: i have to say there's nothing better in the world then working with others to promote world peace.
Lu3: and a better future for all future generations.
Hans: interesting
Hans: so how old are you lu3
Lu3: im 18
Hans: very good
Hans: and so now your concerns
Hans: are world peace
Hans: umm so stopping hunger
Hans: and what else
Lu3: I'm interested in a creation of sustainable society
Lu3: which includes ending war, poverty, crime
Lu3: have you heard of the book called Looking Backwards.
Hans: no i haven't
Lu3: its really a great book, it's by Edward Bellamy
Lu3: and in this book his talks about
Lu3: the future world after the transition from a Free Market to a Resource Based Economy
Lu3: something similar to what social engineer Jacque Fresco has been working on most of his life.
Lu3: a group of historians looked back at this time,
Lu3: and would say wholly shit their making materials and selling them for
Lu3: corporation profit over and over again,
Lu3: with absolutely no reference to what the planet had.
Lu3: and recycling protocols and everything else
Lu3: also burning fossil fuels at a millions times a rate at their actually renewability
Lu3: you know and it's true
Lu3: their going to laugh at us wondering what kinda hell primitive dumb ass species we actually were.
Lu3: even if we actually survive to reach that point.
Hans: Ok
Hans: so in other words,
Hans: you feel that umm the abuse of what happens in the world
Hans: is where many of us or
Hans: at least those that control these diverse power
Hans: are just putting every one else at risk ,
Hans: is that how you see it ?
Lu3: yes Hans i do
Hans: Ok well let's see what Jonathan has to say.
Hans: Jonathan good morning
Jonathan: good morning
Hans: how are you?
Jonathan: good
Hans: 0k and how old are you Jonathan ?
Jonathan: 15
Hans: Ok go ahead
Jonathan: alright i live in the Bronx, NY
Jonathan: I'm part of Zeitgeist NY State Chapter
Jonathan: well i like to see
Jonathan: basically that I'm part of the Zeitgeist Movement,
Jonathan: because i want see a change in the world
Jonathan: because obviously the society were currently in is really sickening
Jonathan: and i believe we need some change
Jonathan: and i believe the Zeitgeist Movie,
Jonathan: and movement was really a mind blower for me
Jonathan: because it really showed,
Jonathan: answered a lot questions i had basically about like 911
Jonathan: why things are happening
Jonathan: so yea i believe the Zeitgeist Movie is really a
Jonathan: opening door way to conscientiousness
Jonathan: to many of the people
Hans: interesting
Hans: so in other words the movie has crystallize a few things
Hans: for you and at this point um you as a 15 year old
Hans: feel engaged in umm to such a indenver to umm ask greater questions
Hans: to begin to look at the world in a much more different way
Jonathan: yea of course
Hans: I see
Hans: umm so what else do you see ?
Hans: I mean how do you fit in with the other kids at your age
Hans: that really are not looking at the world in its complexity
Jonathan: well it seems like when
Jonathan: i try to spread the word about
Jonathan: what i have learned it seems that they reject me
Jonathan: as the society tends to do
Jonathan: so yea its harder for them to intake the knowledge
Jonathan: that i have for conscientiousness;
Jonathan: so yea there's really a problem there trying to
Jonathan : get the masses to wake from this illusion that
Jonathan: we have in this society
Hans: you think were living in the great part a sorta of a world
Hans: of illusion is that what you think
Jonathan : yea kinda
Hans: In which way do think
Hans: that is could you define that ?
Jonathan: is like people in power have placed
Jonathan: an illusion on the people so they
Jonathan: keep thinking of the American Dream is the reality,
of the poverty, crime,and the wars so yea
Hans: so you guys think that crime can be eliminated
Hans: and wars can be eliminated you think that's a possible reality ?
Hans: as far as your concern
Jonathan: umm well i see the monetary system as one of the key factors
Jonathan: that produces scarcity that produces; people tend to rob, and steal
Jonathan: So that's one of the major crimes here
Hans: in other words lack of money or the fact that money is being used in the society
Hans: and umm which promotes a tremendous amount of scarcity
Hans: and so it varies and those that have these money's
Hans: they feel the need to now go get what they want is that what your saying
Jonathan: yes
Hans: Oh ok alright
Hans: so umm how do you guys feel about now your presenting your world view
Hans: in terms of umm your world view cannot be
Hans: you know complete at this point could it?
Hans: you guys are just beginning a process
Lu3: i agree Hans
Lu3: we have started you know just a few years ago heard of the Zeitgeist Movement
Lu3: so yea we're basically starting a process on a greater path
Lu3: which is going to take time.
Lu3: but basically we're aware of the fundamentals in which the world works.
Lu3: so yea
Hans: oh ok
Hans: umm you guys want to have a closing statement
Hans: to say exactly what you would like to see in the world ?
Hans: you know for everybody to get a full grip in terms of what,
Hans: you know what you feel and what you see ?
Jonathan: alright i would like to see in the world is for more people to be
Jonathan: aware of the situation that is occurring in this society
Jonathan: so we can make a change now before its to late
Hans: Ok so you like to see greater conscientiousness in the world
Jonathan: yes
Hans: for people to be more concern not just about their own families
Hans: but about the world as a whole
Jonathan: yeap
Hans: ok umm lu3 what about you?
Hans: what would you like to see?
Lu3: umm basically a person has to you know find within himself
Lu3: the right way of living and be conscience you know ask questions ,
Lu3: critical thinking
Hans: interesting
Lu3: you know Venus Project proposes you know greater things
Lu3: at times people you know might add or subtract
Lu3: but it proposes a better life and takes in considers the environment,
Lu3: but right now we're killing it and if we continue on this path we're not going to last very long
Hans: well very good, umm you know, umm i guess i can certainly add
Hans: to what your saying to everybody, to my interpretation in which
Hans: you just sayed is to become more aware and concern of our interaction with not only each other
Hans: but also the environment you see that as a process
Hans: where by the greater understandment we have for the environnement
Hans: well be our understandement of the world as you know as one
Hans: where we are protecting something that is not only value
Hans: but also towards in its undoing, protecting life and
Hans: developing the sense of sustainability and that gives us a lot things that you guys
Hans: are concerned with for people to look at in terms of monetary system
Hans: where most people don't see the monetary system as something
Hans: that is something outside of their world they see it as part of
Hans: there world right now, but something that is interesting in most people i guess,
Hans: but whats important is that you have spoken about ,
Hans: you young kids that umm are becoming men
Hans: and are looking at the world in its complexities and we really
Hans: appreciate the time that you guys shared with us today
Hans: and hopefully we well have another talk again
So Lu3 and Jonathan you know thank you very much for coming on
Jonathan: ok no problem
Hans: take good care
Lu3: alright bye