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So big I can barely pick him up. Here he is. Come on, buddy. OK, go outside. Yeah, come on. Let's wake up a bit. It's a beautiful day in the neighborhood. Am I sound on, babe? Yep. Hi, everyone. Welcome to our broadcast. Thanks for coming. Today we're going to talk about attention as a behavior and how attention is the mother of all behaviors. So why do I say attention is the mother of all behaviors? Let's face it. At the end of the day, it's not hard to train any dog to do just about anything within physical limits. Even my bull terriers, I can train them to do anything. So nobody really has trouble training any dog to do anything. The problem is getting the dog to do it in distracting situations. And that's where it all falls apart for people. So you have a few options. You could try and suppress it. You could just fight that distracting environment by suppressing the behavior of looking away from you or being distracted. You can try just whipping out higher and higher reinforcers. But in the end, you're involved in an ever-escalating battle with distractions that you're going to lose ultimately because you haven't addressed the underlying problem, which is the conflict between attention and distractions. So what we're going to do today is show you how you can train your dogs to find distracting environments cues for attention, that you can take all the distractions and the craziness that your dog faces in the world and use that as fuel for focus and attention on you. Now, we're going to start with two puppies. My puppies are eight weeks old. These are eight-week-old puppies. One puppy I've already done two sessions with, so she's a little bit more advanced than the other puppy. And the other puppy is a brand new puppy that I have not done this with at all. With the little puppies, we really have to modify these exercises. If you've been to any of my seminars, you know how we normally do it. We have to modify it because they're eight weeks old and they're not really fully capable of paying attention that much or for that long. We're really executing the full behavior. But again, with puppies, we're more concerned with teaching concepts than behaviors and rules. We're dealing in concepts and emotions. So if we can just get that first two concepts into the puppy today, the first concept being that looking at you is an actual behavior that they can get paid for, and the second concept being that, when something comes in and tries to distract them, that if they look at you in the face of that distraction, that's a behavior that they can get paid for. Here's some footage from one of my seminars so you can see the progression of how we build the attention behavior with an adult dog. [CLICK] Did you see her have that idea? [CLICK] Good. Did you see her have the idea? She's like, uh-- [CLICK] --yeah, I have an idea. Just gonna lie down? No, it's going to be look at you. [CLICK] So now count to one. One. [CLICK] Good. Yeah. That's a minute. [CLICK] OK. Give her a couple of minutes or more because she lost-- I mean a few seconds longer because she lost time. [CLICK] Good girl. Now you can count-- try counting to three. See if you can get three seconds. [CLICK] Good girl. Nice. Now do two. [CLICK] Good girl. Now try three. [CLICK] Good girl. Now do one. [CLICK] Good. Now do five. [CLICK] Good girl. Good girl. Good. That's good. Now I'm going to come in and start distracting. [CLICK] Good girl. [CLICK] Good girl. [CLICK] Good. [CLICK] That's a minute there. [CLICK] Good girl. [CLICK] Good girl. [CLICK] [CLICK] [CLICK] Yeah. We're going to start with the puppy that we haven't worked with at all yet. So the thing about attention and the exercises that were doing is that they're not the cure-all for everything. You still have to train. You still have to prove. It's a huge process to get a dog ring ready or even a pet that is good in public at the park. But it's the start of all cures. If you can get this piece in now young, at under 12 weeks old-- but we like to start it at 8 weeks old-- you have just shaved six months to a year off the process, and possibly even, for some very highly distracted dogs, changed the ultimate outcome. But again, starting early is really key. You can do it any time, but starting early, huge dividends. I'm ready for him. Hi, buddy. Hi. It's Luigi. Hi, Weej. Love what I got here. Look at all this food. Come on, Weej. You can put him-- oh, OK. Weej, see? I got some food. What do you think about that? That's going to be really exciting. So I'm just going to look for any time that he looks at me. [CLICK] Yes! Good boy. Now, come on over here so people can see your pretty face. Here. [CLICK] Good boy. Any look, any glance. [CLICK] Yes. Any glance, any eye movement to me at all. [CLICK] I'm putting my hands behind my back-- [CLICK] --because I want to be sure that he's looking at my face. [CLICK] Good boy. That's brilliant. [CLICK] Good boy. [CLICK] Wow, good stuff. You're smarty. [CLICK] I swear I didn't work with him before. [CLICK] Good job. [CLICK] Now, I'm counting to just one. I'm just going to count one Mississippi in my head. [CLICK] So just putting a tiny bit of duration on it. [CLICK] Good boy. Nice. He's doing amazing. [CLICK] I knew he'd be pretty good. [CLICK] Nicely done. OK, good boy. That was enough for you. Now-- (BABY TALK) oh, my goodness. Oh, my goodness. Do you wanna-- [BABY BABBLE] [KISSING SOUNDS] You were amazing. You were amazing. So we'll have a little cuddle here. You want to cuddle a little bit while we talk? Or do you want to go back? Yeah. He's very cute. So a couple of things. I don't recommend more than 60 seconds for the set of time. Again, go back to Puppy Culture distributed learning. You'll understand why I say that. You could either set a timer, or what I do is I just limit it by the number of treats that I have. Like I'll put, that was probably like 20 or 30 treats in my hand. No, it was not more than 20 treats in my hand. A little handful. And I'll say, I'm going to train that much. And it's a way of limiting-- yeah, I know. It was in there. It's a way of limiting it so you don't just grind the puppy into the ground. You don't need any more than that in one session. Now, because this puppy was so good-- let's just try another beginner puppy because he was so good he was a little bit of a shill. Because he was so good, I was able to go to the next step with him, which was to put a tiny bit of duration on it. At first, I was taking any time he glanced into my eyes at all. And then I was able to count to one. Now, I don't think that's really typical for an 8-week-old puppy that they would be that good, so we're going to try another one that maybe won't-- don't bring Sassy. She'll be too good. OK. I'll bring formerly known as Catfish. OK. OK. This dog is a much softer puppy. It could take a little bit longer. So again, here's my handful that I'm going to take. I'm going to take about that many. So that's like 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12 13, 14, 15, 16, 17-- 20. And I've got hot dogs. I've got cheese. I've got some leftover steak-- actually, prime rib, which was excellent-- and a little bacon from Gina's bagel this morning. So I got everything in there. So this is the softer puppy. He probably won't catch on as fast. You ready, honey? Oh-ho-ho, he's excited. He's very excited. He's excited. Yeah, he might be more difficult. I just want to let him know that I have something here for him. This is Catfish, who's now known as Doozy-- come here-- because his new owners wanted to call him that. [CLICK] Good boy. Now, I just grabbed that tiny little head flip towards me. [CLICK] Good boy. Nicely done. [SNORTING] [CLICK] You're very funny. He's thinking a lot more than I thought he was going to. [CLICK] Good boy. Nicely done. You're a smart guy. You are. Love you. Mic's off. [CLICK] Mine's off? No. Oh, OK. [CLICK] Good boy. He's doing very well, too. [CLICK] Good boy. OK. You can stay right down here. That's perfect. [CLICK] Now, I don't care about anything else that he's doing. Whether he's standing on me, sitting, standing, none of that matters, even if he climbs on me. [CLICK] You can only train one thing at a time and all I care is that he has eye contact with me. [CLICK] Good boy. OK. He's also doing very well. [CLICK] Good job, buddy. [CLICK] Nicely done. [CLICK] Wow. Good, good, good. [CLICK] Well, you're a smarty. [CLICK] I don't know. We're going to do a little duration with you, too. [CLICK] Good job. [CLICK] Wow. You did well, too. OK, well. (BABY TALK) That was too good. You weren't supposed to be as good. No, you weren't supposed to be that good. So the thing is that all these puppies have been through the whole Puppy Culture program, so they've already done the communication trinity-- Which one has the-- --which is-- I'm sorry, honey? Go ahead. I'm sorry. So they've been powered up on the clicker. They've done the box game. They know manding. So they understand how to work with people. Apparently, I thought this would be a little bit more of a challenge for them, but they're not. And it is important that-- listen, you don't have to do the Communication Trinity first. You don't have to have Puppy Culture puppies to do this, but it's really helpful if you've been through the whole protocol first. They pick it up really fast. Question from Skye. Mhm? She was a couple minutes late. She apologizes. OK. How hungry are the puppies, and what is the reinforcement this time? OK. Well, that's a really good-- [INAUDIBLE] Oh, OK. So Skye asks, how hungry are the puppies and what is the reinforcement this time? So I had showed everyone already what is in there, which is a mix of hot dogs, cheese, bacon, and prime rib. But it's a good point that, again, we call this establishing operations, that they had a light breakfast this morning and they are quite hungry. Let's see, we fed them-- they haven't eaten for about three hours. And at that, we didn't give them a huge meal like we usually do. So yes, it's very important that they should be motivated by food at this point. Now, again, some breeds, they're still not really very food-motivated at this age, which can make it challenging. We're just fortunate to have the luxury of dogs that are Hoovers. OK, you got me Imogen? Imogen? Yeah, let's do Imogen. So now we're going to do Imogen. And Imogen-- I've been through three sessions with Imogen. So I did the concept session, and then I did two sessions where I was just trying to build a little duration on it. So now this time, because she's a puppy, I'm going to do one more where I just try and get a little bit more duration on her. And then, again, I'm going to put her away to sleep. Again, if you've seen Puppy Culture, you know distributed learning. This is why we do this. So the ultimate goal is not that the dogs are going to stare at us all the time. That's a question I get frequently. Well, if they're staring at you all the time, how can they do anything? The ultimate goal is to teach the concept, which is that they will always have me in their peripheral vision, and if something crazy happens, they will look at me instead of spooking, shying away, or being distracted, or running after whatever it is. Jane, we're going to turn a little bit this way. OK. I'm just going-- you're not going to be in the one? No. OK. We want to turn this way. For her eye contact. OK. Hi, mama. How you doing? [CLICK] Good girl. So I'm going to review by making it fairly easy. She was sleeping, I think. She was. Yeah. Yeah, she's a little bit-- there are some distractions. [CLICK] Good girl. [CLICK] Nice. I want you to watch her tail. You can always tell when they know they have it by the tail. [CLICK] Good girl. It gets very still right before they have the idea. [CLICK] Good girly. [CLICK] Good job. Nicely done. [CLICK] Nice, nice, nice, nice. Good girl. Good girl. [CLICK] Oh, are you-- she thinks she's going to have to jump away in one second. She's going to add that. [CLICK] Good girl. Cough, cough, cough, cough. [CLICK] Is it going to be bark, too? Is it going to be bark, too? [CLICK] Good girl. Nicely done. Nicely done. Nicely done. [CLICK] OK. All righty. All righty. All righty then. All righty then. All righty then. I'm just going to take a couple more cookies because I'm going to show them the next step now, OK? So I was counting to between four and five with that. I'm going to just run her through a little bit more to show you guys the next step. That's duration? Well, I added duration. And once you can get up to, I think with a puppy, between three and five seconds-- even if you can get three seconds, maybe four-- do you have to go poopies? Is that what I see over there? I think so. We have a question while she goes. OK. She has to go poopies. So Let me just finish. Let me just explain this and then I'll take the question. So once you can get up to three to five seconds, now what you have to do is start bouncing around between one and five seconds. So one, two, one, five, three. Try and be random and just bouncing around in between there. First you get just the look. Then you get duration on it. And once you get up to a continuous about three to five seconds, start varying the number of seconds you wait anywhere from one to five seconds and make it as random as humanly possible. There's a scientific reason for this, which I'm not going to go into this. If you've been to my Thinning the Ratio, the Missing Link seminar, you know it, but trust me on this. You need to take that step to go variable reinforcement length of duration. And the other thing that's really, really key about this-- it's a second sort of ancillary concept that they're learning-- is that duration is a behavior. It's a criteria that they can offer. A criterion that they can offer. The reason this is so important is that you see a lot of free-shaped dogs, or "clicker-trained" dogs, that will fire off manically behaviors. And people will say, well, I can't do the free-shaping. It stresses my dog. It stresses. And really what it is is that the dog never learned to offer duration as a variation on the behavior. So if looking at me is a behavior, looking at me for two seconds might be a novel behavior that they can offer. Again, a deep discussion of the science of free-shaping is beyond the scope of this broadcast, but trust me that this is really, really important that the dog learns that duration can be a criterion that they can offer when they're training. Yes, now the question. The first question was any modification for a deaf puppy? And no, not really, other than you use a hand signal. No. Again, the concept is exactly the same. There's no difference. OK. Did she go? Yes, she did. She did? Well, that had to happen. That had to happen. You're such a good girl, not going in the house. OK. Yes, they're almost house-trained. They are. They're awfully good puppies. Now listen, let's do our variable duration. [CLICK] Good girl. [CLICK] Oh, sorry. You didn't get that piece. OK, OK. She's like, I didn't get paid for that one. [CLICK] Good girl. Here, sweetheart. Here, sweetheart. Good girl. Here. It's in there. [CLICK] Good job. [CLICK] Good girl. [CLICK] Good job. [CLICK] Good girl. That was awesome. That was awesome. You showed them how to do that. You're such a good, good, goodie. [BABY TALK] Yeah. Yeah. Wee! Good girlie. Wee! Good girlie. She's very good. She's very adorable. Here she is. There she is. There's your face. Hello. Gina, you can take her away. Jane, the next question. OK. She's going to stay out and play a little bit. Peggy has a nine-month-old Puppy Culture puppy, a miniature bull terrier. Do I start at the very beginning just like you are doing for the eight-week puppies to teach attention as a behavior? Absolutely yes. The question is-- is she mic'ed, babe? Yeah. OK. Absolutely. You start from the very beginning and you work up the same way, teaching attention as a behavior. Absolutely. Good girly. Good girly. That's my good girly. For breeders, I would recommend-- I mean, it's hard, if you've got nine puppies, to really go through this protocol for every puppy in addition to all the other Puppy Culture protocols. We had to sort of triage the protocols that we do to the ones that we felt, in Puppy Culture, we wanted to give you the ones that we felt every single puppy ever that goes through your hands should do all of these protocols. Now, the attentions of behavior is a great, unbelievable bonus protocol, and we do do it, but, again, it's pretty time-consuming, especially if you've got nine puppies. So we at least do it with all the puppies that we know are going to performance or show homes so that we know that they have that foundation that's going to stand them in good stead when they get into these crazy environments. For the ones that are in pet homes, chances are, a lot of times, that they won't do much more than walk down the street, so it's not as crucial. Although arguably, it's fabulous for any puppy. Oh, that's great. And that's a great question, and thank you for asking because it was something I wanted to address. The question is-- So the question is, what is the earliest age at which you begin to shape attention? And it's a great question. I have found that, in our breed, in our dogs, eight weeks is the earliest time that-- just hold on to her, sweetie, because I'm going to talk to some questions. Eight weeks is really when we start this. Eight weeks is when we start our practical behaviors, like leash-walking, formal recalls. Attention is a behavior. That's when we really start this stuff because, before that, our puppies don't have the physical or mental wherewithal to learn much. Again, we do a lot with them to instill concepts and emotions in them, but as far as really practical behaviors, they're really not much capable before eight weeks of doing a lot. Just physically, they can't do a lot. That could be very different breed to breed and puppy to puppy. And I know a lot of puppies are still kind of Weebles at eight weeks old. They're not really capable of doing much. So for us, eight weeks, but that's going to be a very individual decision based on the puppies. However, I would say, at all costs, before 12 weeks. Before 12 weeks, you want to get these protocols in. And she followed up with auto attention versus cued attention. Yeah. OK, another great question. So do I cue the attention? And the answer is no because if you have to cue attention, the implication is that, as long as it's not cued, the dog is free to ignore you. If it's on cue-- a verbal cue-- then, not the implication, the explicit understanding is that the dog is free to ignore you unless you ask for it. So again, what we're doing here, ultimately, is making distracting environments cues for attention. My dogs will pay better attention to me in public because they understand that there's a lot of opportunities for reinforcement there with all the distractions. And what you'll see when you do this-- we haven't even gotten to adding the distractions part-- is that there'll be a noise or something will happen, and all of the sudden, you'll just see your dog looking at you, and you will be like, oh, my gosh, that's it. It worked. You just cannot believe how they generalize it. It's amazing. And again, for emotionally soft dogs, fantastic. It gives them a touchstone. But it's not a rule that they have to look at you all the time, and it's not an enforced thing, like, me, me, watch me, watch me, watch, watch, watch. No, the dog is free do what they want, but they've been shaped to understand and believe that looking at you is very reinforcing, so they'll do it. All right. Come on. She was sleeping on it. She was sleeping again? Good. Did she have to piddle or anything, you think? I don't know. Well, let's put her down and see if she's hungry. Like this, Mark? You want me to be like this? Have your back towards me more. So we're going to put our back-- I'm going to put my back toward you guys so that you can see Imogen. Let's see. Do you want me to stand on this side so they maybe can't see my feet? Is that goo-- well, what I'd like you, actually, to do is kneel pretty close to the puppy. Can they see her all right here, Mark, if she kneels pretty-- Yeah. OK. So this is very much toned down for the puppy. So I'm going to wait till she looks at me. And let me just see. I'm going to click her-- [CLICK] --a couple times. Oh, yes, I know, little one. She very, very sleepy. [CLICK] Now, what I want you to do is, she's going to look at me, and I want you to just slowly bring your hand in toward her face until she looks at it and then stop. Wait till she looks at me. Good morning. More. [CLICK] I'm just going click that because that was a really long time. We can't see the hand, so Gina's going to have to turn. Is it better if Gina's on the other side? It might be. Yeah, try that. So what happened there was Gina was attempting to distract her, but she was not to be distracted easily. And here she goes. [CLICK] And it was so long, I just had to click that duration because we were going to fail there. So now we're going to try it a little bit closer. Let her look at me. [CLICK] Good girly. Nicely done. There's a lot of thought in that. She thought she had to give me eye contact. Yeah, she did, I think. Go ahead. [CLICK] She's like, I'm not going to be fooled again. So you're going to have to come in a little bit closer because I would like her to be distracted. So go ahead. [CLICK] (LAUGHING) She's not going to do it. And we haven't done this with this puppy at all. So just scooch in a little closer. Sit down-- can you sit down on your feet? Is it uncomfortable? Yeah, whatever's comfortable for you. Get comfortable there. That's it. Now put your hand in. No, wait till she looks at me and put your hand in. Go ahead. Do it. [CLICK] You're not helping, either. You're too good. You're way too good. That's way too good. Wait. Wait. She's not looking at me. She's looking at my hand. She's like, lady, I just have to see you. What's the crazy thing are you doing? Come here, sweetheart. Come on. I know. You did so, so well with that looking at me. Come here. I have the cookies. That was really good. That was really good. Now let's do this again. She wants to know why Gina's acting so crazy. Now try it, Gina. [CLICK] Good girly. That was a good one, buddy. Well done. Well done. OK. Come here. I think she's-- there she is. Do it, Gina. [CLICK] Good girl. Well done. Well done. So I want you to bring it in a little bit faster and actually do distract her because we do want to get the concept, that looking back from a distraction. Even though she's doing really well and kind of skipping that step, you need to take that step. It needs to be taken that she actually does get distracted. All right, sweetheart. Let her look at me. Do it, Gina. [CLICK] Good girl. Very well done. Very well done. That was brilliant. Brilliant. She's getting a long turn. I don't know. I'm going to try her a little bit longer. This might be a little bit of a long turn, though. Just a couple more cookies, OK? Because you're such a genius. I love you so much. Good girl. Good girl. OK, just a little bit more. Come here. Very well done. Very well done. OK. We'll take their questions now. We'll get to questions in just a minute. [CLICK] Yes. That's exactly-- now, that's exactly the kind of reaction that you want to see. It's just like, whoa, there's a hand there? Do it. [CLICK] OK. She's going to raise her own criterion. That's awesome. And that was good enough. I can't ask for more than that. Again, I want to see them notice the hand. And I know she notices the hand, but again, sometimes even at this age, you wonder because they can't see terribly well. And really, you want to know that they see the distraction. And if they make a deliberate choice that looks like a CER, that distraction, yeah, I need to look at you. And then you can cut them off to ignore. Obviously, this puppy was raising-- and that will happen sometimes-- the puppy will raise their own criterion. Bring in Luigi. You want to try it with Luigi? Sure. See how that goes? All right. What are the questions? OK. So I'm just going out of order, so I apologize, but a quick question you can answer for a couple is-- it echoes another question. There's two of the same. How do you do this without an assistant? You don't, really. It's very difficult. How do you do this without an assistant? And that's why I'm saying the assistant for this is really, really important. Now, you can certainly do the old thing where hold food in your hand and the puppy has to ignore the food to look at your hand. That is excellent. And it will probably teach the concept to some extent, but ideally, you'll have an assistant. And then, at higher levels, you'll have assistants with dogs and other things like that. You'll have children. You'll have all kinds of things. I mean, you can really make an art out of this. All right. So the question is, since you can't use a clicker in the show ring, how do you segue from training attention to getting attention in the show ring? And the truth of the matter is that you only need the clicker for a couple sessions. In fact, I could do this now with these puppies without the clicker, easily, using a verbal marker. But within a very short period of time, it becomes such a default behavior for the dogs to look at you that you no longer have to train it. By the way, that's true of anything. For me, the clicker is used in a very specific context to free-shape things and to raise criteria. So I'm constantly free-shaping a level, cutting it off, getting the next level, cutting that off, and working my way up. And anybody, again, who's been to my seminars understands the science behind free-shaping, which is you're working in extinction bursts. So you're getting a CER, an extinction burst, next level, CER, extinction burst, and so on and so forth. But once you've got the finished behavior, unless you're having a breakdown on something that you want to go back and fine-tune something or bring it to another level, you don't need the clicker anymore. This is a great question, too. Down the line with this attention training, do you ever-- You can put him down. --name a behavior to be able to use as a request for them? Or do you just try to have it so ingrained that it becomes part of their functioning in your presence? Is it beneficial to have a word-- Wow. I think Gin should've read that one. It's long. Basically, is it beneficial to have a word to remind them to pay attention to you during times when they are still in training? Yeah. The question is, basically, do you ever put it on a verbal cue? And I do not ever put it on a verbal cue. When I call my dog to me, that's really the cue that you're on duty. We're working, and now you should be looking at me, Or at least out of your peripheral vision, you should be looking at me. And I don't. No, I just don't put it on cue. I don't see any utility at all to putting it on cue. Again, calling your dog, I have an amazing recall. And once I do recall my dog, my dogs, they understand that now we're on duty so they will start offering attention. But no, I don't. And again, I think, in fact, it's probably counterproductive to put it on cue because the implication is that the dog doesn't have to pay attention to you when you haven't cued it. All right. So now, here's Cheswick, the dog formerly known as Luigi Meatballs. So we're going to see how he does. Gina, do the same thing and just sit over here. Now, we probably are skipping a couple of steps with him. Luigi's fresh out of the gate with this. Yeah. This is only his second session, so it's probably a little bit soon. I would like to get more duration on him. Ideally, I would do another session just for duration, but let's see what happens. Somebody likes the food. [CLICK] Yes. Again, I don't care if he steps on me. I don't care about any of that. All I care about-- can you see his face, hon? [CLICK] Good boy. [CLICK] Try it now, Gina, in the next one. Let him look at me. Do it. Faster. [CLICK] You're going to have to come in faster only because I can't hold him for 10 seconds looking at me yet. [CLICK] Perfect. Good. That was a perfect reaction. Good boy. That's exactly what you want to-- you want to induce that in the puppy. Do it again. [CLICK] Good boy. See how he's already like, nah, I'm not going to be fooled twice. Do it again. [CLICK] Good boy. Good boy. OK. So because he's so brilliant, this time just go and don't be super, overly obnoxious and let's just go to ignore. So I'll just click him for ignoring it if he does. [CLICK] OK. Well, he didn't ignore it. I don't want to raise the criteria too quickly. So I'll explain what I was talking to Gina about in a second. Come here. Go in, G. [CLICK] Good boy. So what I was saying is that, if she could go in just like that-- at first, I was asking her to be a little bit more obnoxious to keep pushing the envelope until she broke through and he broke his attention. Now what I was saying is, listen, just go where the envelope was originally and if he doesn't break, I'm just going to click him for ignoring. But then he did break, but I wasn't ready to hold out for ignore so I wasn't going to not click him for looking back. Right? Right? But the next time, when he did not look back, I did. Define "ignoring me." Maintain eye contact. Come here, buddy. One more time. Let's do it again. Good. So start out a little closer so that you can get in a little closer to him with your hand, OK? So we're going to raise the criteria by just being a little bit closer with the hand. Go ahead in. [CLICK] Good. So now, here's some ways that you can vary it. Try coming in over his head, OK? [CLICK] Good boy. Now you can come in kind of on the side of his head here. OK, that was perfect. Do it again. [CLICK] Oh, that was-- you sort of looked away, but not really. We'll do it one more time. Do it again. Try again. That's it. [CLICK] Good. Good, good. That was good. That was good for him. Again, I think with a puppy this age, especially, the key thing is that there is an understanding of what's going on. And that's, to be honest with you, way more than I would have thought that I would have really gotten out of these puppies at this age. But I have to say, first of all, they are, of course, brilliant puppies. Yes, I know. And second of all, they've been through the Puppy Culture program. I mean, all my puppies have been through the Puppy Culture program, but these particular puppies seem to be very focused. I know. You did so well. I think because Auntie Gin has been working with you guys. We have been. We've been tag teaming-- not on this, but other things. Question. OK. Yes, Gina? And also, these puppies, out of the gates, a few weeks ago, were not rocking it out of the park. They were not. They were not. That's true. So they, all of a sudden, made a nice, big jump. Gina, you make a very, very good point because, at their four-week mark, when we do mending, they were not good. And we were just like, wow, what are we doing wrong here? And Gina, actually, was the manding department. She was in charge of teaching manding. And they're eight weeks old now? I wouldn't say it's till really this week that it's clicked for them. So it's a great point that every litter is different. Like the Puppy Culture litter, they weren't all great at manding, but certainly they had it by five or six weeks, for sure, they had demanding. These guys, it wasn't until this. week. And it's not always a linear thing. Sometimes it's quite an arc. Yeah, we'll go up and down like that. Oh, you're saying it will be like suddenly they get it. Yeah. The question is, should the trainer and the assistant ever switch places, or should the trainer always be training? And I never had any particular reason to think that they should switch roles. But it brings up, again, a related issue, which is that one of the concepts that I want all my puppies to go home with is that any human is an opportunity to work and have reinforcement-- well, A, that work-- "training"-- is reinforcing, and that's something that they're going to love. They're going to go home with love of working with people, and all people. So anybody that comes, I'm going to ask them to work with the puppies and do some small training with them so that they learn that. Here's a question. I'm not sure if you asked it while I was out of the room. Do you use attention as the doorway for receiving other cues? I'm not sure what that means. But in the sense that-- I guess that's what I'm saying, in the sense that, if the dog's not paying attention to you, they can't really perform. So it is the mother of all behavior. It's the first thing that you really teach them that allows them to do all the other things. Because, again, your dog can do great weave poles, but if they're not looking at you and they're looking outside the ring at everything else that's going on that's more interesting, they're not going to do the weave poles. So in that sense, it is a gateway. If you don't have an assistant, is there another way to do that? Yeah, we answered that. Oh, I'm sorry. We answered that. Yeah, we did answer that, which is that you do need an assistant, and a good assistant. The assistant has to know what they're doing, so it's important that you get on the same page with that. But you could do the thing where you have food in your hand and you just have the puppy ignore your hand with the food. How would you generalize this behavior with other puppies. Doing this in all sorts of settings-- With older puppies. Older puppies. Doing this in all sorts of settings with different distractions? Absolutely. And that becomes subsequent. Right now, we have two episodes of this planned. We have this week and we have next week. We're going to show you the progression of how we add different kinds of distractions. And we'll talk about some more performance-related and very specific things for different-- more specific attention for specific contexts and how we shape that. But the art of it is raising the criteria and bringing the puppy and the dog to all different kinds of places in practicing it. But again, as I said, this is the core concept that you must have before you can do any of that other stuff. Here's a question that may not be directly related. What if the puppy barks at you while manding and making eye contact? That's a great question, though, because these are what we call superstitious behaviors. They will often throw in superstitious behaviors, stuff that is not part of the behavior, but the puppy thinks they are. And there's nothing-- how can I say that? You don't have to do anything about superstitious behaviors. They'll go away eventually as the dog narrows it down. Now, with the barking, sometimes the bark can be superstitious behavior, but sometimes, also, the bark can be that you're not being clear about your criterion. And that, again, is something that people have a lot of trouble with. The dog could be frustrated and barking at you because either they think it's part of the behavior, or they could just be barking because they are frustrated. And my answer to you with that-- and again, this goes back to free-shaping technique, which is not specifically the subject matter of this-- is that being very clear-- very clear-- about where you are with your criteria is very important. So if you are on look and look back, or if you're on ignore, more to the point, and the dog looks and looks back and you click and then you go back to ignore for the same level of distraction, you've just confused the dog. You have to remember where you are and maintain that criteria. Now, if you are on ignore with your puppy and then a truck goes by and backfires, or, like in Gina's case, she-- in the case that, over here, with I think it was this puppy, where maybe she was a little bit more obnoxious than she was the last time, I can drop back and click that. Even though I was on ignore, I can click look and look back because another aspect of the criteria got harder. But given all things being equal, if Gina's coming in exactly the same way with her hand to here-- I know you see that-- and one time I only click ignore and the next time I click look and look back and then not look and look back and then ignore, and I keep bouncing through and forget where I am, that can get a very frustrated reaction from the dog. And perhaps on manding, you're waiting for a little too much duration before you reward. It definitely could. So if you could try to beat that bark for a few times, then perhaps you'll get more duration without the bark. And Gina, I would hypothesize that that could very much be the case. Again, it's hard when we have specific cases because we haven't seen the puppies, but these are some guesses. Well, that was really, really fun. And my puppies were better than I thought they was going to be. Bye, everyone. Goodbye. Ow! You bit me! [KISSES] You bad dog. You bad dog. You was a star. You was a star. You was very, very good.

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