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Interview with Jacque Fresco and Roxanne Meadows (Part 9)

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but how are you gonna stop it in the future? They said: "When that time comes, we'll work on it." I said: "How are you gonna house millions of people?" They said: "Well, when that time comes, we'll work on it." I said: "Let's start technical branch and work on it." They said: "You're deviating the teachings of Karl Marx. You'll have to leave." So they kicked me and the Vice-President of The Young Communist League. He said: "Let's hear him out." So they kicked us both out. I would say they were dumb. I would help any... any country to get better. I don't care what they are. presbitarian, communist, socialist, it doesn't matter to me All people need clean air, good food and a relevant education. To me all people have the same needs. So, you have any other questions? - I have one. - Yes. - It's about semantics. - Did I answer your question about... - Yeah, yeah, sure. It's about semantics. I read your books... - Which one? The Best That Money Can't Buy? - Yes, yes - Ok. - And I read that we can... in the future, read a book in a few seconds or in a few minutes, you can read a book. - Yes. Can you give more details about that? The semantics in the future. - Yes. Years ago, when I was a kid, about thirteen, fourteen... I wanted to know how airplanes fly. My parents didn't know, my relatives didn't know, so I went to the library and I got a book on the Wright brothers. They're supposed to be the first men that build the powered flying machine. So, I opened the book with great anxiety, 'cause I wanted to know. And it starts out: "There was a sunny day in May and Mrs Orville Wright was hanging clothing on the line." That bothered me, 'cause I didn't want to know about her, I wanted to know about how planes fly. I had to go through the whole book, there's a lot of "sunny day in May" in there. In the end of the book, they killed a pigeon and they put wires in its wings to keep 'em out there and they moved the wings forward, backward in the line of division to see where the center of balance was. That was information, so I began to take books that I picked, when I was a kid, and underline all the bullshit, "sunny day in May", and chalk the good stuff... So, I learned to skip all the shit and come up with substance. You understand? Writers get paid today by the amount of words they write. They stick thousands of words in there. And... I'm not interested in that. Even if a doctor makes wonderful contributions to medicine, I wanted to start out with the contributions, not the doctor, 'cause the books I get says: "Doctor Jones lives in Florida with two kids, one was named Larry and the other Jennifer and he always lived near the (beach) 'cause he liked the sea. I'm not interested in that shit, I just wanna know what he did to make medicine better. But on the bottom of that, you can put, if you wanna know about the doctor, here's it ... There's so much information today, that we can't afford "sunny day in May" anymore. Do you understand what I'm talking about? We can not afford it. There's so much wonderful news. They say: "Everyday a satellite sends information down on outer space." It takes scientist four hundred years to interpret the daily sent out of a satellite. So, we need computers to handle that. No man can. You know what I mean? When you come in for a landing in San Francisco there's a pea soup fog, you can't see anything, so you need radar that tells how high you are off the ground. Sonar. It isn't machine take over. Machines will be assigned tasks that man can't handle. But don't ever let anybody say: "Will machines take over?" No, they won't. They will be assigned. Just like engineers. Yes? - Yes, I have one question. Some people say that The Venus Project would be like a bubble. That we are on some kind of island and we do our stuff and people that don't agree with us wouldn't be allowed or wouldn't be accepted. How do you answer those people? - We're not elitist. We want to... You know, do the first city, invite people from all over and be a research center and we'd be making information about this direction as well. And we'd be working on the automated systems for the next city, to make it better. But we'd be... invite... We'll also have a theme park, if we are able to, in the first city, so people would came and see what future would be like. And we would have people from all over the world come and if they liked it, they could live there and then go back to their country and build another and another and another. We feel that this... that there maybe some countries or some areas that won't wanna join, but eventually the standard of living with people in countries joining together would be so high... and the rest of the world couldn't even compete with that... that the people would be demanding that those countries joined. But we'd never leave people out, so it wouldn't be like a bubble... We wouldn't be rejecting people, they might be rejecting us, initially. - Yeah. - Just because they don't know about this direction. - You know what the Amish people are? It's a religious group that lives in the country by themselves. Wanna grow their own food. They wouldn't want to join The Venus Project. They wanna live on their own, but we would put up their buildings for them at once. Free, no cost. But if one of the leaders says: "I like wood, I don't want it fireproof..." Then I'd say: "When it catches fire, we'll talk later." I'm gonna say this about The Venus Project. How you pick your own home in the future? You sit in front of a plastic bubble, about six feet in diameter, and you say to it as the architect: "I want a home." And it says to you: "What kind of home?" Most people are not that sure. So different houses appear and they rotate. And she says: "Stop.", once you get to the house you like. Then she says: "I'd like to see the floor plan." The roof get's off. And then she says: "Can you move the children's room next to the adult bedroom?" and it moves while you're talking, then he says: "I like a balcony sticking out." "Sticking out where?", machine says. "Out of the bedroom, above the pool." "How far out?" He says: "Eight feet." The machine says: "If you go twelve, you can have a dinning area." It does not overrule you. It merely suggests. - Yes... - If you say "No I'm going with the eight feet." Then you're at your own risk. So, when you get to talking, there's a room, a dome... You walk in... you know what virtual reality is? - Yes. - "Say: I'd like to see how the house look like inside. Now, a virtual image appears." And she says: "I didn't think the sink would be that low." It starts moving up, same way. She says: "Now, ok." Each home is exactly as you dictate not some architect who thinks you want this or that. So architects will be out of work possibly in the next fifteen years. But you will walk over to your computer and say: "I'm interested in a seventeen story building, minimum materials." I say: "What use will that have?" "Engineering and planning." "What type of engineering?" "Electrical Engineering" Then the building would be arranged as designed in the most similar way, because input from information from all over the world goes into the architectural decision make up. Now, I don't know if you know this. Architects have a library. When they would design a school... they pull books out on school building. We can connect all that with a computer. In an hour and an half, there are artificial architects that are better than any architect. Now, if you don't understand me, that's why I brought up a diagnostician, a dermatologist, you know that skin specialist? They show him skin diseases and he has to remember the pattern. You know psoriasis has a different pattern than measles... The doctor has to remember all those patterns. But when he sees a new skin disease that he never saw before, he goes like this. That means he's not sure. He says: "Doctor John, can you come in here look at that?" That doctor have been around the world. He has more information. Now, we can photograph every skin disease in the world, put it up on plates, so when you come in, you have a strange skin, it... giving you all the information in the world and the latest treatment. Most doctors will be on the way out. Computers... your little laptop is in touch with the world. You can ask almost any kind of question. "What are the memory metals like today?", it'll tell you. Do you understand? We make buildings... You know what the memory metals are? Nickel and titanium Some Swedish inventor... he was mixing different metals together... He's a metallurgist... and he mixed nickel and titanium together, just to see how strong it would be and he bent it like the letter U. He left it on the table under a heat lamp and it straightened itself out. So they now make metal and they shape it like a spring. So, you can pull it out, bend it, twist it, heat it and it goes right back to that spring. That's a memory metal. You can make buildings of memory materials. And the buildings... the buildings themselves would be made like, say, a dome. Now, we flatten that out and ship ten thousand houses to India, flat. When we're in India, we heat... connect two electrodes to it. A minute and an half it becomes a full dome again. That goes for furniture, that is curvilinear make it that way and you flatten out so you can ship. You can ship houses. You can get maybe two hundred houses on a boat but if flatten that, you get four thousand on a boat. Today, they take off... you know what container ships are? They take off one container at a time... they're big containers, shipped to countries, and the ship that carries that costs one billion dollars, and you tie it up for three days, taking those containers off. We float the whole container section off the ship and float another one on. That's how we raise the standards of living. Not by Saint Fresco say: "We're gonna raise the standards of living." You understand that? - Yeah - Yes. - I have one question. A lot of people talk about I'm a spiritual person. I want that you clarify that about the definition. - What roles spirituality will have in The Venus Project? - Yeah. - Yes? - The definition of the word. - The definition of the word. You wanna take that or not? - Yeah. When a person uses the word "spiritual", I say, what do you mean by that? 'Cause I always don't know what they mean. - They have a different definitions, everybody who says it... - Does it mean you have no locks on the door, you bring all hungry people in their house and feed them?" "No, no. Not that." "Well, what do you mean when you use word "spiritual"?" What do you mean by a guy... he's a good guy, a nice guy. In the early days, if someone didn't like you, they put you in a hole and then everybody would shit on you, there was a bridge on top and shit... One guy couldn't do that, he pissed on you. He was a nice guy. It's the closest thing as a nice guy in the money system, because they have ulterior motives. They say: "I've got just the car you're looking for, I've got just the house you're looking for." That's a sale's person. Nobody... that's why there are small print on the contracts. 'Cause it discourages people from reading it. If they really cared, there wouldn't be any small print. - So, in the future... a doctor could say: "It's all in your head, go home and take this pill." In the future, all our doctors are responsible for the health of everybody in their community. If it isn't up to par, they have to go back to school, so they don't hurt anyone. - Today's spirituality... you know, when people go and meditate and think that they're cleansing their mind from what's going on today, they really... they might feel more comfortable but they don't help society. In the future, I don't know what's more spiritual than having people not have to go to work at jobs that they don't like, to have free access to all the goods and services that... can enjoy and participate in whatever they want free, without money. So, to me, that's translating all those hopes and wishes that these spiritual people have into something that's real, so they can live and manifest that behavior. Today, it's just verbal... masturbation. - I went on a trip to the South Seas. You've read about that? - Yeah, yeah. You know... - About what? I went to... When I was twenty one, I'm now ninety four. When I was twenty one, I went to a group of islands of the South Pacifics. When I got there, everybody walked around nude, no clothing. They were swimming nude ever since they were babies, going on... and I never saw a guy looking at a girls body, only in the eyes. If you're brought up swimming nude, there's no Peeping Toms. Only when you cover a girl up, the guy wants to see what she's got there. See? But if you grow up in a nudist camp as kids, no... children brought up completely nude, they don't buy girly magazines, they don't wanna look at nude women you understand? But in night clubs today, they've got this girls dancing, shaking their breasts. That's men today... And girls say: "You know how man are... All they think of is sex." That's because they live in a world deprived of it, do you understand? If you're brought where everybody swam nude, uses the same wash room, when they're very young they never look at each other. And there'd be no fetishes. You know what a fetish is? - Yeah.

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Posted by: electric_blue on Sep 6, 2010

Interview with Jacque Fresco and Roxanne Meadows (Part 9)

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