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NHT Day 08 01 BWH

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Well, good morning, everyone. I'm the only bee keeper here, and I'm ready to talk about some bees and wasps today. So we are going to talk a lot about bees and wasps, but I got to get this thing off, mainly cause I can't really see what's going on with that on. So well, I like to keep that on as fun, but then I've to take it off. Okay so I saw some chats about... I messed my hair up again. Saw some chats about the final exam. Okay, here's what's gonna happen, folks. This is the last module today for the commercial folks. Residential folks, you'll stick around with me, and we'll do your debrief and give you information on your final exam at 11 o'clock. So, commercial folks, you're done after this module from 10:00 to 11:00, okay, 11 o'clock my residential folks come back and we'll go over the exam. Commercial folks, you're back with me on Friday morning, and then Shane and I will take you the rest of the way on Friday. So just to recap, everybody here now, residential folks are back at 11 o'clock, commercial folks are back Friday. So if you're residential, you stick around. If you're commercial, you're done after this module. So we're gonna chat about bees and wasps. Now I want to start off with a short video and this is gonna sort of show you some information about bees and wasps. Lot of people use the term interchangeably. They'll go back and forth between bees and wasps, they think they mean the same thing. It's really not the case. Let's take a look at this video. In the United States, there are several species of flying insects that sting or bite. Some are aggressive, others, more docile. All should be avoided. There are few species that aggressively defend their nests and inflict painful stings on intruders. Stings from yellow jackets, bald-faced hornets, and paper wasps can cause swelling, become infected easily, and also aggravates skin conditions and allergies. Yellow jackets account for 70% of all stings that people get. The reason that people get stung maybe hasn't been encountering as much as just the meanness of the yellow jackets. One interesting thing about hornets and wasps is that they can sting repeatedly and like honeybees. Well, in case you ever wondered what the business end of yellow jackets stinger looks like, you now know. So a lot of people are afraid of bees and wasps and some of it's justified, some of it's really not. Let's take a look at our learning objectives for this module. Our learning objectives include identifying the inspection and treatments used for bees and wasps, and then we're gonna look at the scenario and develop a customized IPM program, service plan, and then review the service with the customer. Now please feel free to use your pocket reference guide and pest ID guides as we go through this, here in module. Okay. So, here's a question for you. Which of the following are benefits associated with bees and wasps? A, pollinate flowers, B, consumes pest insects, and C, produce honey and other products such as beeswax and pollen. Looking at our results, most people think it's a little bit of everything and that is absolutely true. It is little bit of everything. So not all the bees and wasps do all of these things, but as a group, when you lump them together, they pollinate flowers, in fact honeybees are most efficient pollinator out there. We couldn't have a lot of our fruits and some vegetables without the benefit of insect pollination, and again honeybees are most efficient pollinator. And some consume pest insects, and some produce honey, and beeswax, and bee pollen, well, getting into the pollen, C is in here. I can tell you in Atlanta, at this time of the year Atlanta turns to a lovely shade of yellow from all the pollen in the air, the numbers go astronomically high. Mr. Aubrey Douglas in our control room right now is suffering mightily from our pollen effects here. He has bit of a problem with that, little sniffles going on there. Ain't right, Aubrey? So here's the problem, some people advocate taking pollen from your area as a nutritional supplement to lessen the effects of pollen when things bloom, that's one theory. I can neither vouch nor confirm, I can neither confirm nor deny, the efficacy of that but some people swear by that as a thing to do to... Okay. I don't understand what you're asking me, Thomas in New York. You have to be here now and if you're commercial, you're here, if you're residential, you are here after this module as well. Okay. So a lot of people have these concerns about bees and wasps as a group. But what are some of the problems that are really associated with them? Chat that in for me. What are some of the problems... Sting, sting, sting, sting, sting, sting, fear. Yeah, so a lot people are allergic to stings. Now most people will react, you know, if they get stung by a bee or a wasp, they'll have a little localized reaction, it'll hurt. Certainly, when you get stung and then it may itch for a few days, feel warm, kind of warm but the allergic reaction that we're talking about is a life-threatening, people can go into anaphylactic shock if they are stung. Some people have to carry something called an EpiPen which is epinephrine that they can inject, self-inject if they are stung by bees or wasps. So, you know, now most of them are not really a social stigma, it's not, you know, something, "Oh, they have bees around their home, let's not go there." It's not that type of thing like bed bugs, or fleas, it doesn't carry that much of a social stigma, but certainly they can be a problem. And you're right, damage to structure from things like carpenter bees, and no one wants to see an unsightly nest hanging off the side of their house and be a nuisance as well. Now I just mentioned talking about allergic reactions. Okay, let's look at this first. So it stings, fear factor, nuisances, and damage to structures. So obviously, the sting, a lot people just absolutely terrified of bees and wasps. And there are nuisance and then damage to structures. You know, kids sort of have a love-hate relationship as far as the fear factor. When you're a little kid, you might have drawn a flower, with a bee on it, that's sort of cute. You know, one of the Cheerios products, advertises, you know, honey nut Cheerios has a bee as its spokesperson, I guess, it would be sort of kind of. So, you know, you have this thing that they're terrified of them and but they think they're very cute and will draw them on flower, so you get this mixed bag with that. Okay, so what, I was talking about stings a minute ago, what percentage of people is really allergic to the venom in these pests? Again, not just a little localized reaction. Oh, we have a little bit of a range 1%, 10%, 20% got votes for all of them. Well, the correct answer is 1%. So again, it's not that little localized reaction I'm talking about, I'm talking about a life-threatening allergic reaction. So only about 1% is really allergic to the venom in these things, that they can really cause a problem. So 1% may not seem like a whole lot of people, but when you think about it, how many people are you going to have in the businesses that you service or the homes that you service? So, you know, if you if you're dealing with 1,000 people that's 10 people are severely allergic to them, so while the number may not seem much, you have somebody on your route or you're going to encounter somebody that is very, very allergic to the venom in these things. So we have to take the risk of these stings very, very seriously. In fact, more people die from bee or wasp stings every year than from snake bites. That's something to think about. So yeah, they're out there, 1% doesn't sound like a lot, but that's 1 person out of 100, 10 people out of 1000. So repeat number one... Repeat number one answer please. What was it? Okay, this 1% percent was the original one and then... So it was 1% is really allergic was the answer. So this is a... So 1% is the correct answer on that one, Thomas. Okay. I hope that helps. Okay, so you know I'd like to tell you... I'd like couple of you to call in and tell me an encounter of up close and personal encounter that you've had with bees and wasps. Okay. I'm not answering them here, not answering, we've already covered that. I was just putting the backup. So I want to tell you a little story that I had, when I was with the Department of Agriculture, I used to be, for a period of time, the Chief Apiary Inspector, I was in charge of bee inspections in addition to regulating pest control complaints, I served wearing two hats for a while there. And there were some... Georgia is a big migratory beekeeping state, in other words, people will overwinter or spend the winter, their bees will spend the winter here, and then they move them to... It's cool enough yet, not horribly cold like in other parts of the country. And then they'll move them up north as the weather gets warm. And a truckload of bees was moving through the Atlanta area, and there was a cloverleaf on one of the major interstates here in Atlanta and a tractor trailer load of bees overturned, flipping all these bees out. And I was sent out to look at it, because we're concerned about some parasitic mites that occurred. Well, you know, you think of state troopers as being, you know, really tough-as-nails types of individuals. Now I get out there, I pull in my personal car, and I put on a bee wear like I just had on earlier, I just walk out there. And there's bees like flying around because they're all disoriented, they don't know what's going on, and they're really horribly confused. And there's like state patrol vehicles there, and you think of these tough-as-nails state patrol people, they wouldn't get out of their car, they would just roll the window down about that much to talk to me. Just about that much to explain what was going on. Eventually, we got it a cleaned up. So sort of cute, so let's see Joseph in Tacoma, let's hear about something you had occur with bees or wasps. Well, there was one time and I was like 10 years old, I was playing near some power lines, I believe there was a nest, I don't even remember but all I remember was a few stings on my buttocks. Those will hurt, yeah. When you're a kid, little boys especially and some girls, too, are very tempted. They see hornet and says, "Let's throw a rock at it." Yeah, good choice there. Ian in Burlington, do you have a story for me? I was working for carpentry a few years ago, and we were doing siding on this house. And I was done reporting the siding off and somehow wasps nests had gotten into the actual wall void and here me and my boss are banging and just ripping the siding off, the next thing we know the customer is screaming inside their house 'cause instead of going out, the wasp went in. Oops! I bet, they weren't thrilled with that one. Thank you for those stories and the all the other callers that didn't get to. But yeah, so you have a lot of stories like that. Now when you're dealing with the customers, whoever bee or wasp problem, you can relate just to really short story like that, just to build that rapport with them, so "Yeah, I understand what you're dealing with." So, hopefully, you appreciate the importance of this group of insects. Oh, so let's look at a review question. Which of the following are traits that are common to bees and wasps? They're social and living in ground, this most of bees and wasps, social living in nests or hives, active in night, rather than during the day, winged, able to travel great distances, or are attracted to sweets. Yes, you do, Felix, I'll talk about that in just a bit. Yeah, youthful stupidity, we'll do that to you, John, absolutely. We've all been tempted to, "Hey, let's throw a rock at it, see what happens." Okay, let's take a look at our results. Most people think it is everything but B and that is correct. So for the most part, they are social and live in nest or hives. Now there are couple of solitary wasps. They're sort of outlier on this thing. But most of them are social, and they are winged-enabled to travel great distances and many of them are attracted to sweets. Now they are not active at night, they are active rather during the day. Okay, so they are active during the day and not at night. And this becomes important in our controlled strategy and we'll take a look at that in just a minute. So when we're looking at this, this is nothing new here, as far as the general inspection's strategy. We talk to the customer, okay, we always interview the customer, then based on what the customer says, we conduct an inspection. Now here you have to use a little bit of care, you slowly and cautiously approach the suspected activity. Now let's say, I want you to look at that last bullet point, follow worker to locate the nest. Here's the thing, okay, let me get to, let me get to these things, and I'll try to answer some of the questions as we go on, okay. So here's the thing about locating this. This is particularly important for yellow jackets. Now these things are defensive, they're not aggressive, but they are very defensive. So they're not going to perceive you as a threat if you're just standing there. Now if you approach their nest area, then they perceive you as a threat, and then consequences can be had. But if you're just standing there, now locating a yellow jacket's nest and we're gonna talk about this in just a minute. Yellow jacket nest is frequently in the ground. People think I'm silly when I say this but if you'll just stand there and watch them fly back and forth, they'll lead you to the nest side. They're frequently in the ground, under a plant or in mulchy areas or something like that, usually you'll find a whole size of a quarter or half dollar in the ground that they're coming and going from, but if you'll just stand there and watch them go back and forth, it might take a couple minutes but you'll figure out exactly where they are. So the homeowner's gonna say, "Oh, they're over there, you know, that area with some mulch in it." They probably are. So you just approach that area, you just stand there, you'll see them coming and going. And then you just can gradually pinpoint, "Oh, there it is." So watching them will help you locate the nest. Okay, so now the general strategy that we talk about as control is to treat the nest with the residual material, labeled, of course, for that purpose, and then in many cases come back and remove the nest, the next day. Now I have to tell you this, I'm gonna tell you this about three times. If you ever treat a honeybee colony, any honey in there is not fit for consumption since it would've been treated with a pesticide. I'm going to say this about twice more in various points in this module. But any honey treated with a pesticide is not fit for consumption since it was treated with a pesticide. So, you want to remove a nest, because decomposition can attract other pest. If you have hundreds or thousands of colony members in there, and they all die, hey, that's gonna be a problem, it's gonna be attractive to other things. Now some pupae might survive in some of these pest, and it can cause structural damage, if it's inside a wall void as, you know, one of the callers pointed out, yeah, they can be inside a wall void either wasps, some yellow jackets rather or honeybees. So when you're dealing with these things, you know, this is one of the pests. When we're dealing with things like cockroaches and ants, usually they're not too, you know, they're not really capable of fighting back. But this particular pest has a defensive mechanism here. So it's important that we protect ourselves against the possibility of stings. So you want to use a bee veil or a hat like I had on at the opening in this module. Now a bee suit, coveralls, gloves, or goatskin. Okay, let me cover these. So the bee veil obviously is to prevent your head from getting stung. Now if a bee ever gets up under your veil, it's going to drive you crazy, because it's flying around there. And I don't care, if this is first-hand experience, because when I was working a lot with bees, I get stung 50 times in a day, and I'm fortunate that it really doesn't bother me, you know, so whenever it stings you on your nose, I don't care how tough you think you are, you're going to tear up like a little baby. You just, it's gonna sting, and you're gonna... It's just a natural physiological reaction, but you get stung on your nose, you're gonna tear up. So you also need to protect your extremities. So if you don't have a bee suit, you can wear coveralls, that's a good thing, or at least have on a long sleeve shirt and secure your sleeves with rubber bands. Now, gentlemen, on our shirts and ladies, too, I guess, we have this little area here, they get up under there, even if you button it, they're gonna get up under there, and that can hurt as well. So a bee suit is advisable. If nothing else, make sure you tuck your pants into your socks, so that they can't crawl up your legs. Been there, done that, not a real good feeling, okay. So you want to make sure that you prevent them from getting inside your clothing. Also bee gloves can be worn there. I don't have a pair with me, but they're usually like a heavy leather, a leather hand, you know, so you can work with and maneuver them around and then you have canvas up to about here, and they will fit over your sleeve, and they I can't get into these areas as well. So special PPE, these things can fight back. So okay, it's little bit of a problem there. Now we do have some specialized equipment for dealing with these things, extension poles, frequently these things are up off the ground, so a bee pole for aerosols, and this will have a scraper attachment, so you can knock the nest down with it, and there's also a 12 foot wand for you PDS, Perimeter Defense System. Now you want to have a can of, something like a Wasp Freeze with you as well. Now we know that insects are not warm-blooded creatures, they're not like us. When their body temperature drops down, they are unable to move. They'll just, they can't generate enough the energy that required warm to be energy... To have energy. So they'll just stop moving. Wasp Freeze contains two things in it, it contains a solvent type of material which evaporates quickly. When things evaporate, they lower the temperature of the material surrounding them. That's just go back to your physics class in high school. Tyvek suit would work fine, Randel. So you have these, these things that evaporate quickly and lower the body temperature of the insect, so it can't fly, it can't produce that energy. And then there is a fast-acting insecticide in there which by the time the insect warms up again, it's able to, the insecticide takes over and they won't be able to fly, they won't recover. So it'll drop them in fly, works really, really well, because it lowers that body temperature. So always have those with you. Now, I want to point out that you are never supposed to be on a ladder unless you have permission from your branch to do so. They all have taken your ladder safety course by now I hope, you are not to be on a ladder unless, unless you have special permission from your branch to do so. So don't do that. So let's chat about honeybees. Now honeybees are extremely beneficial to us. Again, they are our most efficient pollinator. Now they prefer to nest in cavities and wall voids and... Naturally, they're in a hollow of a tree, sometime they're in warmer environments like Florida, they are, they can build a skep or something on the outside of a building or something like that. But we would want to inspect around wood piles and the hallows of trees and wall voids. So they are fuzzy, they're attracted to sweets, and they're not that defensive, again, these things are not aggressive. Even Africanized honeybees, they don't haul off small children and cattle, they don't do that, it's not the way it works. So all those horror movies from the '80s with killer bees in there, yeah, it doesn't work that way. In fact, that killer bee real, real quick. Real, real quick. The name killer bee is a really, really bad name, it's not that they kill people, but again children and cattle, no, they don't do that. What happens is that they were introduced into South America to try to increase honey production and pollination. And they escaped and they got into the native bee population. And they just kept moving further, and further in north. They're not aggressive, they're extremely, extremely defensive. So they're like just a honey bee with an attitude, they're not aggressive, but they're very defensive. And they will sting in mass. Now one of the things that they do is they will go in and try to take over a hive, an existing hive. So they will go in and kill out the queen in there, so they'll just go in and try to kill the queen and take over that hive. So they were talking about, wonder how it got the term killer bee, assassinating the queen, well, somehow that got didn't translate well, instead of assassination bee, it became the killer bee. And people associated with killing people, it's not the way it works, it was just a bad translation because it was assassinating or killing the existing queen in the colony, not people. So there you have it. So the good news is that their defensive trade's seen to be moderating a little bit as they interact with and mate with our existing native honeybee population, actually it's not a native honeybee population that were imported into this country. So our honey bees are normal Italian type of honey bees, that's what they're known as. They're much easier to handle. Honeybee could ah, that's cute. So now they are beneficial, they are fuzzy... They can sting, here's the thing about honeybees. They can only sting once. I'm gonna give you... You saw that video with a yellow jacket, yellow jacket, they sting you, they inject venom into you, they leave. Not so with a honeybee, now only the females can sting, males can't sting. The stinging mechanism is a modified egg-laying device, so males don't have egg-laying devices, so they don't have the parts that could be changed into a stinger. But what happens with a honeybee, they have two little lancets, they're barbed like a fish hook is, so they got that little thing and they sting you, and their little... These two little things keep working back and forth to go into your skin. And because they're like a fish hook barbed, the honeybee can't pull them out, so the honeybee will fly away, but it leaves its backend stuck in you and the honey bee will go off and die. So this is very serious one. If they sting you, they're gonna die, 'cause their butts are left in you. Now, in addition to these two things doing this, there's just some little venom glands that pump, pump, pump, pump venting venom into you. So now after the honeybee flies away, this nervous system keeps functioning for a period of time, has its own little energy supply, so even after the honeybee flies away, this is still doing this, and these are still doing this. So what do we come along and do? We grab it by with our fingers and pull it out, right. So all of these things the venom pump, pump, pump doesn't have to do that anymore, because you've just injected squeezed all that venom into you. So instead what you want to do is take her fingernail and scrape from the side, you can take a key or a credit card or something like that, let's stop it with the bad puns, folks, pay attention. Okay, so you want to scrape it off from the side, you don't grab it and pull it out. So they've had those barbed stingers in you. Now again, they prefer to nest in wall voids, you want to look around, woodpiles on the exterior and such. Honeybee control, here's number two. Any time you treat honey with a pesticide, honeybees with a pesticide, any honey in there is not fit for consumption, period, no discussion, it's not. Okay? So you recommend that the customer contact a beekeeper if possible, now a lot of beekeepers have stopped accepting feral colonies because of the possibility of disease transmission of bees and some mites that are on bees. Yes, even insects get mites on them. Oh, Christin, that is a... Okay, let me cover this. Christin says, "I thought they were protected." Wrong choice. Now you can check with your local branch manager to find out if you're in a municipality that has some local ordinance about not treating honeybees but in most cases, it's perfectly acceptable. Check with your branch or service manager though. Here's the thing, a lot of old beekeeper tales used to be like, "I can't treat them, they're protected." They don't want to mess with something that was fighting back, okay. They, "We can't treat those, they're protected." No, they're not protected, they're not in danger, they're not... All gonna die out next week if you know, if you kill that colony. No, no, no, no, no, but as far as I know, Christin, in your area there is no local ordinance, but double check with your branch or service manager on that. Okay, so no, no, no, no, no. So consult with government regulations. That's what I'm talking about, Christin, make sure that there is no prohibition against that in your local area, in most areas there's not. And then you want to treat with the residual and remove the nest. Now here's the thing about this. The nest is inside a wall voids, it becomes very, pardon me, necessary to remove the exterior siding of the interior wall board because honeybees have been in there, they produce wax they're raising young, and they've stored honey. Now, little known fact also honeybees were the first ones to develop air-conditioning, here's what I mean by that. They... When things get hot inside a colony, a number of the bees will just go outside, they'll stand on the front porch, so to speak, gets hot in the house, they go stand on the front porch, little cooler out there. Okay, less body heat being generated. If things get warmer in there, they'll turn on some fans, in other words, they'll stand at the nest opening and fan their wings to create air movement inside the colony. Okay. If things still continue to heat up, they will actually go out and gather water, place it on the comb, fan there, you know, blow the... Flap their wings to create air movement which evaporates the water as I mentioned before, when things evaporate, it lowers the temperature. So they invented air-conditioning. Better known fact. So okay, again check with your local branch manager to find out if they are in your area, okay. A lot of places, they're not. But there may be some that are, so check with your branch manager. That's what we're advising, I can't tell you each and every area. So you have this nest inside a wall void, come a good hot day, that wax is going to lose you know, it's gonna become soft that honey will start to ferment and smell, be attractive to roaches and ants and other pests. So it becomes necessary to go in there and remove the exterior siding, interior wallboard, and clean all that mess out. That's not something we typically do, but you have to advise our customer that. And again, any honey that's in there, this is number three, any honey in there, that is treated with pesticide is not fit for consumption. Okay. So looking at our next review question, what kind of bee is this? Is it a honeybee, a bumblebee or carpenter bee? They maybe protective but they're not an endangered species, that's bad information. Taking look at our results, most of you say carpenter bee and that is correct, now carpenter bees are out or soon will be out depending on where you are in the country. These are bees that do not eat wood, but chew it out and nest in it. When they do, they can damage the structural integrity of the wood. Carpenter bees prefer to bore into unpainted wood or unstained wood that can help them particularly fresh-coated paint but pretty much if they decided to make a hole at some place, they're going to make a hole some place. So you want to look around eaves, and window frames and door frames, decks, they will get into pressure treated lumber. Now let me go back to that previous picture. The way to tell the difference between a carpenter bee and a bumblebee, well, first of all, carpenter bees will be out much earlier. But note the abdomen is not hairy, it has a naked abdomen on it, whereas it's all gonna be fuzzy on a bumblebee. So they can chew through the wood, they'll create a perfectly round 3/8ths of an inch hole and then they go in and they tunnel out the wood and lay eggs in there, and they will hatch and continue the cycle. Now for carpenter bee control, let me get to where I was. Hold on. Okay, the carpenter bee control, painting of the wood can help discourage them, but you want to apply residual directly into the tunnels and then return the next day and fill it with would fill, the customer can then paint or sand it afterwards. So to hide, you know, for the cosmetic appearance. Okay. Now here's a good review question. Which the following is responsible for 70% of all insect stings? Is it a honeybee, a bald-faced hornet, a paper wasp or yellow jacket? Patricia, you could dust it depending on which product you're using. You have to look and make sure, would it be treated label for that purpose, a dust would work quite well in those situations. A liquid would tend to run down but a dust would, it's probably the chemical of choice, but make sure it's label, whichever dust you're using make sure it's labeled for that purpose. Looking at our results, most people are in agreement that is a yellow jacket, that is absolutely true. The yellow jacket is sort of like the one with attitude. So most yellow jackets are gonna nest in the ground, they prefer to nest in the ground, but some will get into wall voids. Now usually, they're coming in down low near the ground level and then working their way up. Now sometimes, they will build them in trees or other areas. But usually you're gonna find them in the yard, in mulch beds, or under shrubbery, or some protected area like that. Okay, so yellow jackets, yeah, they're just have, this is the one I'm telling you to stand there and just watch them, because they will lead you there. They'll lead you there. So yellow jacket control, you want to make sure that you are using an appropriate label material. And here's where it becomes very important about treating in the early morning or at dusk. Remember, they are active during the day, they are not active at night. So if we treat early in the morning, when it's still very cool out there, they're not active, or at dusk, that way they'll be in the nest and calm down for the evening. The problem is if you're treating at dusk, they can be harder to see, don't carry a flashlight with you. Because if all of the sudden, they see this bright light, guess where they're gonna go. Yeah, okay. So you want to treat early in the morning or at dusk, best time to do that, that way they're in the nest and calm down for the evening. And like I was just talking about probably a dusk is a really good material, use any sort of liquid that's going to be absorbed into the soil around that nest, so a dust would be an ideal application material since the dust tends to sit up on the surfaces better. Other choices might be a micro-encapsulated products or wettable powder. But dust probably are the chemical of choice. You're welcome, Patricia. So but again, make sure you're dealing with this just about dark. If it's cool in the morning, really in your part of the country, if it's cool in the morning, you can do it and the first thing that way, they're not gonna be active and out yet. Now occasionally, just occasionally they do these bizarre things and they will build nest above the ground. Now this happens to be a yellow jacket nest found in Florida. Yeah, imagine it... For some reason they built this one. Occasionally, they will overwinter, occasionally, they will overwinter continue from one year to the next, but very rarely. Usually, they're one year and done. This is for wasps with the exception of honeybees and things like carpenter bees. So our wasps and yellow jackets and hornets, what happens in the fall of the year? In the fall of the year, they produce sexually mature males and females. Well, they do their thing. The males die off, the females find a protected area they've mated, they find a protected area in the hollow of a tree, under bark, somewhere like that, where they can spend the winter. Next spring, they come out and they start a new colony. So that old colony doesn't continue from year to year. All the members of the colony come a good hard freeze will die off. So you can see why and perhaps in Southern California, Hawaii, Florida, they may continue from year to year. No, stop with the flamethrowers. Okay, so something like this can be a bit of a problem. Now imagine if this was underground, if that nest was underground, the yellow jackets excavate the area, and they'll bill this papery material. The ground above them can become weak and sometimes people have stepped in yellow jacket nest in the ground because they have, they have lost... The ground has lost some structural strength, and they just go right through it. Why do yellow jackets buzz around their nest or their opening? Well, they just, they hang around... Well, I got to flip aside, you can't see me. Okay, okay. So remember they're flying around, there that's just like an air traffic control, they have to wait to get in there, if there's ones coming out and coming in and sometimes there's a little build up. So they're just hovering around the exterior. So when we're dealing with yellow jackets, why do you think it's necessary to come back and remove the nest? Because it's an eyesore, because it will begin to rot and attract more pests, some pupae could survive and hatch later, or wasp will re-inhabit old nests. Taking look, most people think it's little bit of everything, but actually wasps will not re-inhabit the old nest, so that's not a reason to remove it. But it is an eyesore, it will begin to rot and some pupae and some of them can survive and hatch out later. So now you always, if you're dealing with anything inside a wall void, yellow jacket or honey bee, you want to check with your branch before treating wall voids. Plus you want to make sure that the customer is aware that it's gonna be necessary to go in and remove all of that stuff. That's not something we typically do. But we'll just go in there and kill them out. There are gonna be some problems particularly if it's a honeybee, or yellow jackets. Both can be problems. But again, any honey in there is not fit for consumption, since it was treated with the pesticides. So make sure that you are aware of your branch policies regarding the presence of nest in wall voids. Now there's this other concept, there's this other concept that of yellow jacket trapping. So in the early spring, remember the females the sexually matured females that have been made are emerging. Now if we can capture those early in the spring, they're not gonna start a new colony, so there are some yellow jacket traps which can be placed out, and they use meats or sweets in there to catch the starting queens. So we can prevent them from ever being started. So you may want to use this if you're in an area that is very prone to yellow jacket, so you trap them early in the spring, so it it's, you know, around parks or factories if it's really a problem in your area, 'cause every queen you eliminate and it's one colony that's not gonna form. So yellow jacket trapping see, check with your branch or service manager and see if you are... Do that in your area. The question of what are we... On, okay, okay. Now the next one I want to chat about very quickly is the bald-faced hornet. Now the bald-faced hornet, these are the ones that build those large papery football shape nests in trees or around overhangs of buildings. Okay. So they can sting pretty good, too, but this is what it looks like. You see this... Now sometimes, you may occasionally find it when that builds it over a window. And they're really, really fascinating to watch the activity inside one of those hives. But you want to apply a liquid residual at dusk or dawn, you may need an extension if you want to treat hard to reach places and you want to come back and remove the nest the next day. The wasp freeze type products will shoot an aerosol stream about 8 to 10 feet so they can be very useful if you can reach it under those, you know, in that distance. Some people like to collect these things, maybe you've seen them in an old hunting lodge or something like that. If they're in a tree and they like, "I'd like to get that," well, if they're really not bothering anybody, wait till it look good hard freeze, I'm not talking 32, I'm talking at a hard freeze. Things get really, really cold. They'll all die off in there, then you want to leave it outside over the winter or put it in a garage or someplace like that, because those hornets in there will sort of smell a little bit for a while. But eventually, it will dry out and then, you know, you can use it in an hunting lodge or something like. Okay, okay, so Aubrey is taking care of Martel in Devonport. So bald-faced hornet control. Okay. Okay, Martel, according to Aubrey, just log out and then log back in both of you. Hopefully, that will clear it up. Okay, so we're running out of time here. Now paper wasps are something different, they build these open-faced nest in areas such as overhang of buildings. So they can get in some other strange place like, recently had an encounter with them last year. I had a outdoor electrical socket and it had a plastic cover over there, and I want to lift that cover, didn't know then there is some openings at the bottom of it, so the, you know, extension cord come out of it, didn't know some paper wasps had built a nest in there and I got popped a couple times in that. So those things happen, too. So they're build, mainly you're gonna see these under overhangs, they're pretty easy to control with the wasp freeze type of product, shoot an aerosol stream again about 8 to 10 feet, okay? Use a quick kill aerosol, the adults out foraging must be killed or they'll rebuild, you want to remove the nest. And if they do come back and start rebuilding, you may need to apply some sort of residual to that area. Yeah, that's called the mud dauber, James, or something else. Okay we're not gonna do the scenario here, we're out of time. So remember, folks, at the end, well, actually at the start of this, what you saw... So asking the customer what did you see, what did it look like, where do you see them, when do you see them, what type of day. So those would be questions that you'd want to cover with the customer. So you have to cover these questions, it's again the same, the aim process that hasn't changed with this particular thing. I want to get to something here. So let's look at a review question, what is this? Is it a bald-faced hornet, a honeybee, paper wasp, or yellow jacket? Almost everyone is in totally agreement that is a yellow jacket and that is correct, it is a yellow jacket. So, folks, get with your branch manager or service manager about treating these things, if you have any questions. I'm sorry, I can't get to all of your questions. You've been chatting in a lot of questions here, and I'm sorry I haven't been able to get to them but we have only 15 minutes for this module. So let me explain what happens now. My residential people, you will be back with me at 11 o'clock. So at 11 o'clock, you're right back here in 10.5 minutes. Okay. You're right back here. Commercial folks, you are done for today, you will be back on Friday morning at 10 o'clock. And residential folks, we're gonna go through your debrief, and I'm gonna give you information on your exam. Commercial folks, you'll get the information on your exam on Friday. Okay? So residential folks, back at the top of the hour, at 11 o'clock. Commercial folks, you're back 10 o'clock Eastern Time. So I will see you either in 10 minutes or I will see you on Friday morning. Bye.

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NHT Day 08 01 BWH

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