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Annotated captions of Jacque Fresco and the Ku Klux Klan in English

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Jacque Fresco is an industrial designer, a social engineer, a futurist

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and a self-taught, multi-disciplinary scientist and inventor who has worked with both technology and social sciences.

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In the late 1930s he joined a local Ku Klux Klan group in Miami and dissolved it in a month and a half. In the following short film, Jacque describes how this was done.

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- You joined the Klan? - Ku Klux Klan, years ago.

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There were about 32 members.

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What I did is I spoke to the leader only.

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If you could befriend the leader, that's important.

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He owned a war surplus store, and I used to buy a lot of scientific stuff,

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lenses and optical devices from him.

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I did different optical devices.

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He said "What do you do with that stuff?"

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I said "I have a lab. Why don't you come out, and I'll show you."

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And he liked what he saw. He saw things he never saw before.

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I showed him a lot of things he never knew existed.

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He said "You're a smart guy. What do you think of the Klan?"

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I said "It's a great idea, but it doesn't go far enough."

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Then they listened. But if you 'down it', they don't listen.

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You understand what I am saying? - Yeah.

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- What I did is I took my little girl when she was about two years old,

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I put a cigarette in her mouth, and I used a gun and a mirror.

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At 40 feet, I split the cigarette near her mouth.

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I cut the cigarette with a razor blade, and I put a hairpin in it,

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and when she rolled her lips a certain way,

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the hairpin blew tobacco all over the place when I fired a blank.

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Do you understand?

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So Lou Merlin watched that and said "You the best shot I ever saw,

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but I wouldn't do that with my own kid, you might miss and hurt her."

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I said "No, I feel very confident." That impressed him,

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and he said in his Southern accent

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"Will you come on down to the Klan meetin' and talk to our boys?"

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I said "They wouldn't listen to me, Lou."

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He said "I'll get them to listen to you, 'cause what you say makes sense."

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He said "I want you guys to listen to this Jacque.

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He got a lot of good ideas."

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And I spoke to them a little bit.

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I talked a lot about guns and weapons, 'cause they were interested in that.

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You know, they didn't know what rifling was, how it would spin the bullet

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and centrifugal force kept the bullet on course.

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I showed them a lot of stuff and they'd be scratching their heads.

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A lot of them were very uneducated people

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who don't know a thing about technology

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except guns, automobiles and electric motors. They knew that;

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but they didn't know enough about society, anthropology, human behavior.

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So I began to fill them in.

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I said to Lou "How is it that you can look at a person

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(that's what he did) and tell us all about him?"

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And he never knew the guy. He could look at the person

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"That guy doesn't think. This guy is lazy," just by looking at him.

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I said "Lou, will you teach us how to do that?"

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He said, "Well, I didn't think I could teach you anything."

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I said, "Well, if you can do that, tell me how it's done."

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"Come on down to the next Klan meetin',

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and I'll work on how you can tell what people are like

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without knowing them." I brought my own equipment down,

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and I projected an image on the screen

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of a guy with a white mustache and grey hair, good- looking guy.

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I said Lou, tell us all you can about him.

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Lou said "Tell you one thing, he's a war veteran.

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He's a good American and a good Christian."

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He was very white. He looked respectable, you know?

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Lou was projecting his own values, and when he got through,

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I said "Lou, is there anything else you can add to it?"

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He said "No, that pretty much sums it up."

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So then I pulled the bottom of the picture out,

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which I got from the post office. It said 'Wanted by the FBI

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for subversive activity against the United States.' - Ha. - Hm.

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And all 30 members of the Klan were laughing at Lou, for the first time.

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When he used to speak, he just said anything,

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and the others not knowing anything, shook their head.

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This was the first time what he said didn't make sense,

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so his group started to laugh at him. I said to the guys "Shut your mouths,

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because Lou knows more about people than we do."

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I had to defend him, until the next film.

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In the old days, I wasn't smart enough to do that.

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I would agree with those that laughed.

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It didn't work that way,

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so I learned to say we'll try another thing.

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The next film was a record

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of a man talking in an Oxford accent about aviation.

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He said "I see a skinny Englishman

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with a bald head and eyeglasses." He was projecting his own values.

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Ten minutes later the image comes on. It's a black guy raised in England.

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"Goddamn nigger, talk like a nigger!" This is Lou's reaction, not my words.

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I said "Lou, that guy was raised in a different environment."

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If you took a black man and raised him in France,

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he'd speak like a Frenchman, since he was a baby.

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If you raised him in Germany, he'd speak with a German accent.

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In Italy you talk with your hands, "Mi mangiai, Americano!"

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You say "Come on-a, eat! It's-a good food!" [Italian accent]

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That's not you, that's the environment impinging upon you.

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"If I took your son, Lou, and brought him up by a 'nigger' family,

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your baby would say "Dat's right, you right. Mmhm" just like a negro.

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Do you understand that, Lou?" He said

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"Do you mean to say niggers act like niggers

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because they're brought up in a nigger environment?"

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I showed them French movies of blacks brought up in France.

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In Sweden they speak Swedish. They don't speak like a black man.

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They don't all 'jazz'. That's in America. All blacks are different.

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They don't all like watermelon, all the stuff we project out there.

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You know, Irishmen are drunkards; they all believe that.

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I said "No, no, they are raised in an environment where 'Have a drink' is normal."

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Sometimes people are not raised in that environment.

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It depends on your experiences.

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Your decision-making is shaped by experience.

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Can you understand that? - Yeah.

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Well, I got that across with 'The Immaculate Pig.'

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That was a major film. It was done like 60 years ago.

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In one of his many talks,

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Jacque describes how he conditioned a pig to do many human-like things.

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The full clip is available online and linked at the description box of this video.

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This is an excerpt from it.

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So when he walked, that would scratch his back. Pigs like that.

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He turned around, and he walked up and back, can you understand that?

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- Yeah. - Okay. I changed the bamboo to wire later,

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so when he went under and touched the wires, it turned on the water faucet.

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Do you understand? He'd come walk and back eight times,

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and the water shower was coming down on him.

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And I put a little jacket on the pig, called 'The Immaculate Pig'.

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It was white, and it said 'The Immaculate Pig.'

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He got up, changed his bed sheet, took a shower,

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went in, picked up all the dirty rags, put them in the basket.

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I'd run that film at the Klan meeting, after other films.

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They'd say "I raised me a lot of pigs, Jacque.

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I ain't never seen no pig that smart!

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How come that pig's that smart?"

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"That's because I raised him in a different environment."

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He said "I don't get that."

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I showed him how you train animals to do these things.

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I explained how I did it, what learning was, and all that.

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'The Immaculate Pig', we have to make a lot of films like that,

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so now we make other films.

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We're making films trying to help people understand these things.

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They invent words. They say "This man's a racist".

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That means you were brought up that way.

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They don't understand that environment makes you that way.

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If you hate 'Polacks' or Jews or Swedes,

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it means you were brought up by the message 'the Jews control all the money,

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and they take it away from the Gentiles'.

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Environment shapes values, facial expressions.

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If you were brought up in the Deep South, you'd speak with the Southern accent.

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And if all you hear is that "damned niggers are lazy; they don't do. . ."

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If that's all you hear, that's what you reflect.

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So you might say "I'm gonna get me a nigger, and I'm gonna kick his ass."

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Is that you or a reflection of your culture? Think about it!

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In New York I asked a question

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"What are the most undeveloped people in the area?"

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I got one consensus. They said the Arabs that live on Atlantic Avenue.

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I said "What makes you think they're backward?"

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"That group still believes the Earth is flat,

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not all Arabs, the group that you're talking about."

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So I called up the lead Arab.

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He wanted to know whether I was an Arab, and I said yes.

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I'm not an Arab, but that was to gain entry.

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He said "Where your father he born?" I said "Lebanon".

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He said "Very good! Come and saw me" (meaning come and see me).

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When I came to see him, he said to me "You believe the world be round?"

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I said "Yes", and he went "Tsk, tsk, tsk".

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In his language, that means it can't be round.

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He pointed to his head. He says "If world be round, man fall-me-down,

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all the water he fall-me-down.

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Can be no ocean, nothing."

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He kept pointing to his head, at how smart he was.

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So I said "Boy, I've gotta get to this guy if I wish to change the world.

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So I gave him a balloon, which I brought with me.

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I rubbed it with fur, put corn flakes in his hand

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and told him to hold his hand away from the balloon.

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You know what happened? It generated static electricity,

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and that sucked the corn flakes up to the balloon.

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All the corn flakes go up to the balloon, and his jaw hit the pavement.

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[Laughter]

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He said "World be magnet?" I said "Yes"

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"Ahhh!" He explained that to all the other Arabs.

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In an hour and a half, they accepted the fact that the earth is round.

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[Applause]

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But if you use language 'scientific centrifugal force',

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'geomagnetic field', they don't know what the heck you're talking about.

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They say Arabs live in the past.

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Well, that's because their environment is in the past.

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You have to learn different peoples' values

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and speak in their terms, not your terms.

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When I first walked over to the Klan people

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and said "Why are you beating up the black guy?"

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They'd just say "There's a nigger-lover from the North."

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They did not hear that, nor could they hear that. Do you understand?

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So, if you use logic, it doesn't work.

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If you speak ahead of the terms of people,

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they don't know what you're talking about.

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We believe in training people as problem solvers,

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so we can bridge the difference between nations.

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When you've got military people on television talking about the war,

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always military people from the Pentagon, politicians that are pro-war,

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you don't get any views from social scientists, sociologists.

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The stupidity of the nuclear arms race, the development of weapons,

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trying to solve your problems politically

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by electing this political party or that political party. . .

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It's not politicians that can solve problems.

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They don't know how to solve problems.

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Even if they were sincere, they don't know how to solve problems

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because they're not trained to do so.

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The world you live in is very sick. We are not civilized yet,

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as long there are war machines, war movies,

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canons in front of high schools,

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bombers, military aircraft in front of universities.

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This is not civilized.

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Man is the dumbest animal, pollutes the ocean,

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the air, the rivers, the atmosphere and people.

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Men, they put themselves on a pedestal,

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say we're the highest form of life. That's an ego trip.

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We're not civilized yet.

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As long you have prisons, police, armies, navies, we are not civilized.

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For over 75 years of research, Jacque has repeated these experiments with different people and groups including: alcoholics, drug addicts, juvenile delinquents, bigots, racists, nationalists and more.

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These experiments are only a small part of his research of human behavior.

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Their findings are incorporated along with many more findings (in various fields), under his lifelong work called 'The Venus Project'.

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This project is proposing a more liberated and humane socio-economic system

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that is based on a deeper understanding of human behavior and its application to education.

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For more information visit: www.TheVenusProject.com