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TVP Teamspeak Q&A Seminar - 2012-06-03 - Mechanistic Concept (part 1)

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Hello everybody and welcome to TVP seminar for June third 2012. Thanks for showing up everyone. We're going to do a first section of a lecture that Jacque did, I don't know the date right now on mechanistic concept. We're going to do the first part this week and the next part next week. What is a mechanistic point of view? A mechanistic point of view to me I'm only describing my values describing my values I don't know what it means to other people. it might mean disregard to for free will, mechanistic, disregard for free will not going to disregard for free will not going to sing but mechanistic to me means that sing but mechanistic to me means that sing but mechanistic to me means that plants can't grow unless the sunlight plants can't grow unless the sunlight plants can't grow unless the sunlight nutrient soil and temperature that's a nutrient soil and temperature that's a nutrient soil and temperature that's a great glory that human behavior is great glory that human behavior is great glory that human behavior is governed by the environment the human is governed by the environment the human is governed by the environment the human is raised in and if they don't conform raised in and if they don't conform raised in and if they don't conform their ass will leave that environment or their ass will leave that environment or their ass will leave that environment or they're killed mechanistic means there's they're killed mechanistic means there's they're killed mechanistic means there's a reason why trees grow plants grow a reason why trees grow plants grow a reason why trees grow plants grow there's a reason by you why nations there's a reason by you why nations there's a reason by you why nations fight war there's a reason why God fight war there's a reason why God fight war there's a reason why God breaks into your home and steals your breaks into your home and steals your breaks into your home and steals your television set not any reason but many television set not any reason but many television set not any reason but many factors that produce that behavior I do factors that produce that behavior I do factors that produce that behavior I do not believe it's the will of a person to not believe it's the will of a person to not believe it's the will of a person to steal from you I believe that they they steal from you I believe that they they steal from you I believe that they they cannot either have access to what you've cannot either have access to what you've cannot either have access to what you've got with ease it takes a lot of pain got with ease it takes a lot of pain got with ease it takes a lot of pain pain means work for three weeks or pain means work for three weeks or pain means work for three weeks or working for 10 weeks to buy a small working for 10 weeks to buy a small working for 10 weeks to buy a small television set or radial if they see one television set or radial if they see one television set or radial if they see one on the shelf and it's near the window on the shelf and it's near the window on the shelf and it's near the window it's easier / well and take your it's easier / well and take your it's easier / well and take your television set or go through the pain of television set or go through the pain of television set or go through the pain of three weeks and buying a three weeks and buying a three weeks and buying a television set in order me and so their television set in order me and so their television set in order me and so their values are different than yours and if values are different than yours and if values are different than yours and if your values are I'll never take 18 it your values are I'll never take 18 it your values are I'll never take 18 it doesn't belong to me if you do you wind doesn't belong to me if you do you wind doesn't belong to me if you do you wind up in jail up in jail up in jail sooner or later if you keep practicing sooner or later if you keep practicing sooner or later if you keep practicing that and that's much more painful than that and that's much more painful than that and that's much more painful than you can think a little ahead if you do you can think a little ahead if you do you can think a little ahead if you do things like that but if you have enough things like that but if you have enough things like that but if you have enough conscience meaning brought up with a conscience meaning brought up with a conscience meaning brought up with a conscience if you take just a little bit conscience if you take just a little bit conscience if you take just a little bit of stuff from a grocery store if you of stuff from a grocery store if you of stuff from a grocery store if you ever get caught it goes on your record ever get caught it goes on your record ever get caught it goes on your record and it interferes with your life in the and it interferes with your life in the and it interferes with your life in the future so it's a inefficient to steal future so it's a inefficient to steal future so it's a inefficient to steal food from a food market because sooner food from a food market because sooner food from a food market because sooner or later if you get away with two or or later if you get away with two or or later if you get away with two or three things you'll be more apt to steal three things you'll be more apt to steal three things you'll be more apt to steal now if you stay away from that behavior now if you stay away from that behavior now if you stay away from that behavior I don't know whether the criminal was I don't know whether the criminal was I don't know whether the criminal was bad I look at mr. person that's dealing bad I look at mr. person that's dealing bad I look at mr. person that's dealing with his problems with insufficient with his problems with insufficient with his problems with insufficient tools ouch ever so a mechanist just tools ouch ever so a mechanist just tools ouch ever so a mechanist just means the tape recorder will not play means the tape recorder will not play means the tape recorder will not play much as a battery that's something that much as a battery that's something that much as a battery that's something that makes a turn that an automobile without makes a turn that an automobile without makes a turn that an automobile without senses on it can hit another car that's senses on it can hit another car that's senses on it can hit another car that's what i mean by mechanistic by what i mean by mechanistic by what i mean by mechanistic by mechanistic i mean if you don't like the mechanistic i mean if you don't like the mechanistic i mean if you don't like the world what do you recommend to change it world what do you recommend to change it world what do you recommend to change it and if it doesn't work what do you do and if it doesn't work what do you do and if it doesn't work what do you do about it mechanistic means that all about it mechanistic means that all about it mechanistic means that all things are connected in some way that things are connected in some way that things are connected in some way that things do not occur without being shoved things do not occur without being shoved things do not occur without being shoved like they were people always looking for like they were people always looking for like they were people always looking for the prime shopper so they made God he's the prime shopper so they made God he's the prime shopper so they made God he's a guy that shuts everything what's up a guy that shuts everything what's up a guy that shuts everything what's up Scott and making difficult for me like Scott and making difficult for me like Scott and making difficult for me like you turn the juice on the electric you turn the juice on the electric you turn the juice on the electric generator goes on but it won't go on generator goes on but it won't go on generator goes on but it won't go on less as a waterfall that turns a turbine less as a waterfall that turns a turbine less as a waterfall that turns a turbine that's what i mean by mechanistic so a that's what i mean by mechanistic so a that's what i mean by mechanistic so a person behaves with socially offensive person behaves with socially offensive person behaves with socially offensive behavior i believe there are reasons for behavior i believe there are reasons for behavior i believe there are reasons for either damage value system brought up in either damage value system brought up in either damage value system brought up in the community its predatory i can't the community its predatory i can't the community its predatory i can't conceive of behavior just being conceive of behavior just being conceive of behavior just being generated without any causation do you generated without any causation do you generated without any causation do you understand understand understand so a nice person are you a mechanist I so a nice person are you a mechanist I so a nice person are you a mechanist I said let me tell you what I mean by said let me tell you what I mean by said let me tell you what I mean by mechanisms so it doesn't coincide with mechanisms so it doesn't coincide with mechanisms so it doesn't coincide with with a misfire so you always have to say with a misfire so you always have to say with a misfire so you always have to say what you mean by mechanistic I can't what you mean by mechanistic I can't what you mean by mechanistic I can't picture this table moving blue picture this table moving blue picture this table moving blue sufficient to another position this is a sufficient to another position this is a sufficient to another position this is a very quick more people moved it I can't very quick more people moved it I can't very quick more people moved it I can't say the table water to go over there I say the table water to go over there I say the table water to go over there I can't do that also will of Allah there can't do that also will of Allah there can't do that also will of Allah there was a house in New York City where was a house in New York City where was a house in New York City where things used to fall off the shelf no things used to fall off the shelf no things used to fall off the shelf no matter how far the person put the books matter how far the person put the books matter how far the person put the books things were for them so they said things were for them so they said things were for them so they said there's poltergeist you know there's there's poltergeist you know there's there's poltergeist you know there's evil people that died they come back and evil people that died they come back and evil people that died they come back and do nothing but mischief because there do nothing but mischief because there do nothing but mischief because there was mischievious people and later they was mischievious people and later they was mischievious people and later they found out this was true by the way that found out this was true by the way that found out this was true by the way that there was a stream of water under that there was a stream of water under that there was a stream of water under that house about 20 feet down a natural house about 20 feet down a natural house about 20 feet down a natural stream with abrupt changes in the flow stream with abrupt changes in the flow stream with abrupt changes in the flow Baloo the bubbles and he's a shake the Baloo the bubbles and he's a shake the Baloo the bubbles and he's a shake the house was set with a certain frequency house was set with a certain frequency house was set with a certain frequency may those things fall off the shelf may those things fall off the shelf may those things fall off the shelf where a person could grow up and say where a person could grow up and say where a person could grow up and say there are many things we don't there are many things we don't there are many things we don't understand therefore there are many understand therefore there are many understand therefore there are many mysteries just say there's a lot of mysteries just say there's a lot of mysteries just say there's a lot of things we don't understand I don't know things we don't understand I don't know things we don't understand I don't know why the books fell off the shelf but why the books fell off the shelf but why the books fell off the shelf but they don't even know how to go about they don't even know how to go about they don't even know how to go about finding out how the books fall off the finding out how the books fall off the finding out how the books fall off the help you know what sympathetic resonance help you know what sympathetic resonance help you know what sympathetic resonance means sometimes would be shaken table means sometimes would be shaken table means sometimes would be shaken table with water at different levels in the with water at different levels in the with water at different levels in the glass or if you pour water too and hit glass or if you pour water too and hit glass or if you pour water too and hit the glass you get a different sound you the glass you get a different sound you the glass you get a different sound you could make a musical instrument that way could make a musical instrument that way could make a musical instrument that way but the glass doesn't make a different but the glass doesn't make a different but the glass doesn't make a different sound it's the water level in the glass sound it's the water level in the glass sound it's the water level in the glass but very few people look for causation but very few people look for causation but very few people look for causation the phenomena that makes her thing the phenomena that makes her thing the phenomena that makes her thing happen now if a bird pushes its own happen now if a bird pushes its own happen now if a bird pushes its own young young young the nest herberto vs that's a terrible the nest herberto vs that's a terrible the nest herberto vs that's a terrible thing to do with you young baby birds thing to do with you young baby birds thing to do with you young baby birds and she may turn against that Robin that and she may turn against that Robin that and she may turn against that Robin that did that but the Robin does what it does did that but the Robin does what it does did that but the Robin does what it does do its own body chemistry it's not bad do its own body chemistry it's not bad do its own body chemistry it's not bad bird Robin's fly in the windows that bird Robin's fly in the windows that bird Robin's fly in the windows that reflect another Robin I hope many of reflect another Robin I hope many of reflect another Robin I hope many of that and they died they killed a suicide that and they died they killed a suicide that and they died they killed a suicide but they don't commit suicide to see but they don't commit suicide to see but they don't commit suicide to see another male Robin and they that's a another male Robin and they that's a another male Robin and they that's a reaction to a male most bulls during the reaction to a male most bulls during the reaction to a male most bulls during the mating season will fight other bowls mating season will fight other bowls mating season will fight other bowls that's a reaction I am as good as bad that's a reaction I am as good as bad that's a reaction I am as good as bad there's enough sex to go around but the there's enough sex to go around but the there's enough sex to go around but the bull doesn't react as Mike Mo tropism bull doesn't react as Mike Mo tropism bull doesn't react as Mike Mo tropism chemical behavior so again I repeat by chemical behavior so again I repeat by chemical behavior so again I repeat by mechanistic I mean that a telephone pole mechanistic I mean that a telephone pole mechanistic I mean that a telephone pole cannot fall over it can if it's leaning cannot fall over it can if it's leaning cannot fall over it can if it's leaning due to the wind and then it rains in the due to the wind and then it rains in the due to the wind and then it rains in the soil gets loose and the center of soil gets loose and the center of soil gets loose and the center of gravity courses to go all the way but I gravity courses to go all the way but I gravity courses to go all the way but I can't see the pole with will to fall can't see the pole with will to fall can't see the pole with will to fall over I can't see human behavior as being over I can't see human behavior as being over I can't see human behavior as being generated by personality bodily chemical generated by personality bodily chemical generated by personality bodily chemical changes to court you to become a serial changes to court you to become a serial changes to court you to become a serial killer of the brain certain areas the killer of the brain certain areas the killer of the brain certain areas the brain rot away you know well they use brain rot away you know well they use brain rot away you know well they use sort of light that you can't see the sort of light that you can't see the sort of light that you can't see the difference between right and wrong difference between right and wrong difference between right and wrong there's no right or wrong there's this there's no right or wrong there's this there's no right or wrong there's this human behavior whatever the person does human behavior whatever the person does human behavior whatever the person does is in balance with where they're coming is in balance with where they're coming is in balance with where they're coming from if the Sioux Indians kill the from if the Sioux Indians kill the from if the Sioux Indians kill the Seminoles because the Seminoles once Seminoles because the Seminoles once Seminoles because the Seminoles once killed a lot of Sue's are they bad now killed a lot of Sue's are they bad now killed a lot of Sue's are they bad now that's normal to their background can that's normal to their background can that's normal to their background can you understand that where he say these you understand that where he say these you understand that where he say these are the laws of wisdom the seven moles are the laws of wisdom the seven moles are the laws of wisdom the seven moles of with them I can't buy that and if you of with them I can't buy that and if you of with them I can't buy that and if you say I experienced this you try it see if say I experienced this you try it see if say I experienced this you try it see if you get the same reactor and you get the same reactor and you get the same reactor and you do you've got to take care of the you do you've got to take care of the you do you've got to take care of the situation so those peoples that project situation so those peoples that project situation so those peoples that project mechanistic view point as inappropriate mechanistic view point as inappropriate mechanistic view point as inappropriate they have to point out the shortcomings they have to point out the shortcomings they have to point out the shortcomings of it what's wrong with it what's wrong of it what's wrong with it what's wrong of it what's wrong with it what's wrong with a mechanistic view point I find with a mechanistic view point I find with a mechanistic view point I find that if it doesn't rain for a long that if it doesn't rain for a long that if it doesn't rain for a long enough period all the plants I and if it enough period all the plants I and if it enough period all the plants I and if it gets cold in the tropics and it gets cold in the tropics and it gets cold in the tropics and it sustained for some period some plants sustained for some period some plants sustained for some period some plants will die that's what i mean by will die that's what i mean by will die that's what i mean by mechanistic now i don't know what other mechanistic now i don't know what other mechanistic now i don't know what other people made so what I meet a mechanist I people made so what I meet a mechanist I people made so what I meet a mechanist I say you mean there's no causality you say you mean there's no causality you say you mean there's no causality you know I don't know what it means by me I know I don't know what it means by me I know I don't know what it means by me I always say what do you mean by that I always say what do you mean by that I always say what do you mean by that I will even social planning by the rich will even social planning by the rich will even social planning by the rich you know that's not a social quick you know that's not a social quick you know that's not a social quick that's dictatorship yeah you don't use that's dictatorship yeah you don't use that's dictatorship yeah you don't use the word Z terminus that's the another the word Z terminus that's the another the word Z terminus that's the another connotation is assumptions also a connotation is assumptions also a connotation is assumptions also a mechanist okay in the old days but I mechanist okay in the old days but I mechanist okay in the old days but I don't know what it means the people don't know what it means the people don't know what it means the people today so I'll ask him you're just a today so I'll ask him you're just a today so I'll ask him you're just a determinist yeah well in philosophy is determinist yeah well in philosophy is determinist yeah well in philosophy is all different kinds of determinism yes all different kinds of determinism yes all different kinds of determinism yes all kinds of fuse some of verifiable so all kinds of fuse some of verifiable so all kinds of fuse some of verifiable so or not but they don't know the or not but they don't know the or not but they don't know the difference so if a guy takes a course in difference so if a guy takes a course in difference so if a guy takes a course in philosophy he's given what other people philosophy he's given what other people philosophy he's given what other people believed in the past I schopenhauer believed in the past I schopenhauer believed in the past I schopenhauer different people you're all kinds of different people you're all kinds of different people you're all kinds of mixed up views they tried to put it mixed up views they tried to put it mixed up views they tried to put it together out of philosophy major really together out of philosophy major really together out of philosophy major really hurts himself unless he studies customs hurts himself unless he studies customs hurts himself unless he studies customs of different cultures and the reason for of different cultures and the reason for of different cultures and the reason for it the mechanisms that it's helped shape it the mechanisms that it's helped shape it the mechanisms that it's helped shape those things but if you think so some of those things but if you think so some of those things but if you think so some of the philosophers were pretty good like the philosophers were pretty good like the philosophers were pretty good like maybe I did your and itchy and that was maybe I did your and itchy and that was maybe I did your and itchy and that was kind of guy some systems part knowing kind of guy some systems part knowing kind of guy some systems part knowing the difference it's very difficult the difference it's very difficult the difference it's very difficult knowing what two weeks track from what knowing what two weeks track from what knowing what two weeks track from what he calls a good book you call a good he calls a good book you call a good he calls a good book you call a good book because what you extracted book because what you extracted book because what you extracted was good for you what he attracts me was good for you what he attracts me was good for you what he attracts me same book will be different what she is same book will be different what she is same book will be different what she is right will be different depending on her right will be different depending on her right will be different depending on her background we do not read the same books background we do not read the same books background we do not read the same books to come off with the same identical to come off with the same identical to come off with the same identical conclusions similar conclusions yes but conclusions similar conclusions yes but conclusions similar conclusions yes but not identical people argue about books not identical people argue about books not identical people argue about books they say this is a great book question I they say this is a great book question I they say this is a great book question I thought it was terrible it's like a thought it was terrible it's like a thought it was terrible it's like a movie so these are some of the tools movie so these are some of the tools movie so these are some of the tools that are needed out there no one can that are needed out there no one can that are needed out there no one can ever get the right tools they get better ever get the right tools they get better ever get the right tools they get better tools and they had but you never get the tools and they had but you never get the tools and they had but you never get the final tool in order me because it's an final tool in order me because it's an final tool in order me because it's an ongoing process comes a more refined ongoing process comes a more refined ongoing process comes a more refined with more information it becomes with more information it becomes with more information it becomes modified a little can the human brain modified a little can the human brain modified a little can the human brain compete with a computer that is not the compete with a computer that is not the compete with a computer that is not the question how many bits can a computer question how many bits can a computer question how many bits can a computer handle it was 40 million a second then handle it was 40 million a second then handle it was 40 million a second then the question is a brain can't handle the question is a brain can't handle the question is a brain can't handle that it's not a question can the human that it's not a question can the human that it's not a question can the human brain to better than the computer what brain to better than the computer what brain to better than the computer what can a computer do it can react to eat can a computer do it can react to eat can a computer do it can react to eat cold temperatures that humans are not cold temperatures that humans are not cold temperatures that humans are not even aware of there are very subtle even aware of there are very subtle even aware of there are very subtle differences in temperature all over this differences in temperature all over this differences in temperature all over this table machines can sense that we can't table machines can sense that we can't table machines can sense that we can't so our machines better than humans in so our machines better than humans in so our machines better than humans in what area and how many areas do you know what area and how many areas do you know what area and how many areas do you know don't know what if a person says I think don't know what if a person says I think don't know what if a person says I think human vision is great a guy with a human vision is great a guy with a human vision is great a guy with a telescope says I can see the craters on telescope says I can see the craters on telescope says I can see the craters on the moon but with my eyes and the the moon but with my eyes and the the moon but with my eyes and the telescope you can't so as a telescope telescope you can't so as a telescope telescope you can't so as a telescope better for distant vision yes and if you better for distant vision yes and if you better for distant vision yes and if you made a super telescope with radar sonar made a super telescope with radar sonar made a super telescope with radar sonar an optical all of those things it's far an optical all of those things it's far an optical all of those things it's far better than the human and bringing back better than the human and bringing back better than the human and bringing back more detail but you can't hants the more detail but you can't hants the more detail but you can't hants the question as it science and technology question as it science and technology question as it science and technology better than other systems what area better than other systems what area better than other systems what area dietary problems what are you talking dietary problems what are you talking dietary problems what are you talking person usually doesn't have the backup person usually doesn't have the backup person usually doesn't have the backup for those statements and say machines for those statements and say machines for those statements and say machines can't be better than the designer the can't be better than the designer the can't be better than the designer the guided designed the microscope cannot guided designed the microscope cannot guided designed the microscope cannot see bacteria a microscope and that will see bacteria a microscope and that will see bacteria a microscope and that will enable him to see bacteria you know me enable him to see bacteria you know me enable him to see bacteria you know me so the microscope is a better device for so the microscope is a better device for so the microscope is a better device for examining bacteria than the eye that's examining bacteria than the eye that's examining bacteria than the eye that's shades of grey that's real semantics you shades of grey that's real semantics you shades of grey that's real semantics you know because all of that has meaning and know because all of that has meaning and know because all of that has meaning and as a reference with a wiper scope I can as a reference with a wiper scope I can as a reference with a wiper scope I can see back here what an electron see back here what an electron see back here what an electron microscope I can see Adams without as I microscope I can see Adams without as I microscope I can see Adams without as I had there's no existence well I can see had there's no existence well I can see had there's no existence well I can see things we call atoms nor me ririn things we call atoms nor me ririn things we call atoms nor me ririn whether we're seeing atoms may be an whether we're seeing atoms may be an whether we're seeing atoms may be an atom itself that's colored crevice and atom itself that's colored crevice and atom itself that's colored crevice and senate which we're not able to identify senate which we're not able to identify senate which we're not able to identify so when a person says is there a solid so when a person says is there a solid so when a person says is there a solid way of looking at the earth remember way of looking at the earth remember way of looking at the earth remember copper wire conduct electricity so copper wire conduct electricity so copper wire conduct electricity so what's a hole to electricity where the what's a hole to electricity where the what's a hole to electricity where the ear electricity is difficult going ear electricity is difficult going ear electricity is difficult going through loss is very damp or salty so through loss is very damp or salty so through loss is very damp or salty so there's a thing called of MU on and there's a thing called of MU on and there's a thing called of MU on and there are other things that could go there are other things that could go there are other things that could go right through the earth and so dear did right through the earth and so dear did right through the earth and so dear did not exist and the solidity of the earth not exist and the solidity of the earth not exist and the solidity of the earth is not solid to that thing so when is not solid to that thing so when is not solid to that thing so when preston's i believe the world's after preston's i believe the world's after preston's i believe the world's after the solids liquids and gases well there the solids liquids and gases well there the solids liquids and gases well there are certain things that can go through are certain things that can go through are certain things that can go through that like they're not sold xr8 go right that like they're not sold xr8 go right that like they're not sold xr8 go right through you and photograph you so to an through you and photograph you so to an through you and photograph you so to an x-ray your semi-transparent but when you x-ray your semi-transparent but when you x-ray your semi-transparent but when you say what is the world really like but say what is the world really like but say what is the world really like but the stupid question depends on what the stupid question depends on what the stupid question depends on what you're talking about but there are gamma you're talking about but there are gamma you're talking about but there are gamma rays that make x-rays look weak I go rays that make x-rays look weak I go rays that make x-rays look weak I go right through anything rocks or anything right through anything rocks or anything right through anything rocks or anything and so neutrinos they believe they went and so neutrinos they believe they went and so neutrinos they believe they went down in all mines one mile deep and they down in all mines one mile deep and they down in all mines one mile deep and they as your entry no signs so it goes right as your entry no signs so it goes right as your entry no signs so it goes right from the earth just like it wasn't there from the earth just like it wasn't there from the earth just like it wasn't there so what's a solid what's a liquid so what's a solid what's a liquid so what's a solid what's a liquid depends on our receptors from you try to depends on our receptors from you try to depends on our receptors from you try to find out what the earth is absolutely find out what the earth is absolutely find out what the earth is absolutely really like so called the truth that's a really like so called the truth that's a really like so called the truth that's a stupid word because it assumes that this stupid word because it assumes that this stupid word because it assumes that this finality and thing some things are solid finality and thing some things are solid finality and thing some things are solid Summa liquids on the gas liquid can Summa liquids on the gas liquid can Summa liquids on the gas liquid can become a gas if you eat and a solid can become a gas if you eat and a solid can become a gas if you eat and a solid can become a liquid if you melted but if you become a liquid if you melted but if you become a liquid if you melted but if you took describe it a certain temperatures took describe it a certain temperatures took describe it a certain temperatures mercury as a solid if you freeze it mercury as a solid if you freeze it mercury as a solid if you freeze it mercury doesn't move mercury becomes a mercury doesn't move mercury becomes a mercury doesn't move mercury becomes a block of methyl if you freeze or if block of methyl if you freeze or if block of methyl if you freeze or if you're putting normal atmosphere it's a you're putting normal atmosphere it's a you're putting normal atmosphere it's a liquid so definition of a liquid liquid so definition of a liquid liquid so definition of a liquid something that flows well does it say something that flows well does it say something that flows well does it say something your flaws within 10 minutes something your flaws within 10 minutes something your flaws within 10 minutes 40 years do you know what I'm talking 40 years do you know what I'm talking 40 years do you know what I'm talking about it's very hard to describe matter about it's very hard to describe matter about it's very hard to describe matter so to neutrinos this table doesn't exist so to neutrinos this table doesn't exist so to neutrinos this table doesn't exist I to it if people live in a neutrino I to it if people live in a neutrino I to it if people live in a neutrino world their visions and concepts and world their visions and concepts and world their visions and concepts and laws would be very different than ours laws would be very different than ours laws would be very different than ours so when you talk if you lock your frame so when you talk if you lock your frame so when you talk if you lock your frame say to me if I fall on its glass I'm say to me if I fall on its glass I'm say to me if I fall on its glass I'm going to get caught that's true for you going to get caught that's true for you going to get caught that's true for you so you try to find out the things that so you try to find out the things that so you try to find out the things that affect you your things if you you don't affect you your things if you you don't affect you your things if you you don't even know they're a gamma rays here but even know they're a gamma rays here but even know they're a gamma rays here but if you sit in a room with x-rays it if you sit in a room with x-rays it if you sit in a room with x-rays it could be killing you and you can't feel could be killing you and you can't feel could be killing you and you can't feel it except later do you know you get it except later do you know you get it except later do you know you get cancer whatever you call solids liquids cancer whatever you call solids liquids cancer whatever you call solids liquids and gases as long as you lock your frame and gases as long as you lock your frame and gases as long as you lock your frame you know what that means lock your frame you know what that means lock your frame you know what that means lock your frame say right now I can float on water if say right now I can float on water if say right now I can float on water if you say what does water really like and you say what does water really like and you say what does water really like and that's a stupid question under what that's a stupid question under what that's a stupid question under what conditions and absolute zero or near conditions and absolute zero or near conditions and absolute zero or near afternoons if you can walk on water it's afternoons if you can walk on water it's afternoons if you can walk on water it's solid even I skate on it so if you lose solid even I skate on it so if you lose solid even I skate on it so if you lose in a world that was frozen or your in a world that was frozen or your in a world that was frozen or your objects mercury is a solid waters and objects mercury is a solid waters and objects mercury is a solid waters and solid there are no flows so people from solid there are no flows so people from solid there are no flows so people from the different the different the different world or a different sense different world or a different sense different world or a different sense different type of senses will describe the world type of senses will describe the world type of senses will describe the world as their senses interpret so if you're as their senses interpret so if you're as their senses interpret so if you're looking for the right answers he had looking for the right answers he had looking for the right answers he had only look for the right answers for you only look for the right answers for you only look for the right answers for you in your environment then you can look in your environment then you can look in your environment then you can look for the right answer but right wrong for the right answer but right wrong for the right answer but right wrong good and bad interferes with scientific good and bad interferes with scientific good and bad interferes with scientific attitude it interferes with knowledge attitude it interferes with knowledge attitude it interferes with knowledge knowledge is cumulative and relative it knowledge is cumulative and relative it knowledge is cumulative and relative it is an absolute nothing is absolute even is an absolute nothing is absolute even is an absolute nothing is absolute even when scientists say this is what makes when scientists say this is what makes when scientists say this is what makes the edge turn the far as we know this is the edge turn the far as we know this is the edge turn the far as we know this is part of what makes the earth sir it's part of what makes the earth sir it's part of what makes the earth sir it's it's a very different world it takes it's a very different world it takes it's a very different world it takes your world away from you and people will your world away from you and people will your world away from you and people will fight it because they lose their fight it because they lose their fight it because they lose their identity your identity as I believe in identity your identity as I believe in identity your identity as I believe in God I believe in miracles if that's what God I believe in miracles if that's what God I believe in miracles if that's what you that's what you are and I try to you that's what you are and I try to you that's what you are and I try to take all that away from you I leave you take all that away from you I leave you take all that away from you I leave you without identity in languages without identity in languages without identity in languages insufficient was designed hundreds of insufficient was designed hundreds of insufficient was designed hundreds of years ago so what the hell Who am I they years ago so what the hell Who am I they years ago so what the hell Who am I they think that somebody that's fixed there's think that somebody that's fixed there's think that somebody that's fixed there's somebody undergoes mortification but if somebody undergoes mortification but if somebody undergoes mortification but if you raise people in a society with a you raise people in a society with a you raise people in a society with a fixed point of view and the role of the fixed point of view and the role of the fixed point of view and the role of the gold modification with passing of time gold modification with passing of time gold modification with passing of time can man make a horseless carriage can man make a horseless carriage can man make a horseless carriage something that moves without horses of something that moves without horses of something that moves without horses of course not well then you limit the course not well then you limit the course not well then you limit the development of that society but if you development of that society but if you development of that society but if you bring up people to think whatever they bring up people to think whatever they bring up people to think whatever they want to think you can't control them so want to think you can't control them so want to think you can't control them so you try to condition them to a set of you try to condition them to a set of you try to condition them to a set of values that you know or you think you values that you know or you think you values that you know or you think you know otherwise you lose people if they know otherwise you lose people if they know otherwise you lose people if they all grew up to their own value system all grew up to their own value system all grew up to their own value system that's why all nations try to condition that's why all nations try to condition that's why all nations try to condition their people to be loyal to that nation their people to be loyal to that nation their people to be loyal to that nation the king is that a rule over you you the king is that a rule over you you the king is that a rule over you you must respect the king in the queen well must respect the king in the queen well must respect the king in the queen well in America it's god Bless America and in America it's god Bless America and in America it's god Bless America and not god bless everybody I would imagine not god bless everybody I would imagine not god bless everybody I would imagine a minister might say God bless everybody a minister might say God bless everybody a minister might say God bless everybody I don't know that for sure I don't know that for sure I don't know that for sure or do you or do ministers god bless or do you or do ministers god bless or do you or do ministers god bless Italy if you're in Italy god bless their Italy if you're in Italy god bless their Italy if you're in Italy god bless their own religious followers yes with their own religious followers yes with their own religious followers yes with their own congregation yeah so I have own congregation yeah so I have own congregation yeah so I have difficulty identifying with a present a difficulty identifying with a present a difficulty identifying with a present a world I can identify more with a world I can identify more with a world I can identify more with a mechanistic point of view and using the mechanistic point of view and using the mechanistic point of view and using the methods of science but not to search for methods of science but not to search for methods of science but not to search for truth just saying this is what we know truth just saying this is what we know truth just saying this is what we know up to now I find that better than saying up to now I find that better than saying up to now I find that better than saying i found the truth the truth is i found the truth the truth is i found the truth the truth is everything which i can't say i found the everything which i can't say i found the everything which i can't say i found the true i can only say i found a better way true i can only say i found a better way true i can only say i found a better way of looking at this situation okay we've of looking at this situation okay we've of looking at this situation okay we've reached the end of the recording since reached the end of the recording since reached the end of the recording since The Venus Project wishes to be in sync The Venus Project wishes to be in sync The Venus Project wishes to be in sync with nature being one with nature with nature being one with nature with nature being one with nature without harming the environment how does without harming the environment how does without harming the environment how does it see the production of food through it see the production of food through it see the production of food through harming or killing animals that's a harming or killing animals that's a harming or killing animals that's a question of morality if you brought up question of morality if you brought up question of morality if you brought up in an environment waves consider all in an environment waves consider all in an environment waves consider all life sacred do you kill mosquitoes do life sacred do you kill mosquitoes do life sacred do you kill mosquitoes do you fight invading bacteria it seems you fight invading bacteria it seems you fight invading bacteria it seems that people device systems to sustain that people device systems to sustain that people device systems to sustain their own life system so sometimes in their own life system so sometimes in their own life system so sometimes in sustaining life you need to eat sustaining life you need to eat sustaining life you need to eat vegetables and you need that you can vegetables and you need that you can vegetables and you need that you can need animal tissue and convert that need animal tissue and convert that need animal tissue and convert that tissue to human tissue so it's very hard tissue to human tissue so it's very hard tissue to human tissue so it's very hard to say don't take a life of even a bug to say don't take a life of even a bug to say don't take a life of even a bug or an insight of any kind well I don't or an insight of any kind well I don't or an insight of any kind well I don't understand will you eat plants you're understand will you eat plants you're understand will you eat plants you're taking plant life when you eat animals taking plant life when you eat animals taking plant life when you eat animals you're taking animal life according to you're taking animal life according to you're taking animal life according to both some plants are more sensors with both some plants are more sensors with both some plants are more sensors with human beings so I don't understand human beings so I don't understand human beings so I don't understand except that the coach you brought up and except that the coach you brought up and except that the coach you brought up and they give you a set of values that are they give you a set of values that are they give you a set of values that are not based upon physical evidence greed not based upon physical evidence greed not based upon physical evidence greed response in the living and non response in the living and non response in the living and non living I sir jugadas chandra bose if you living I sir jugadas chandra bose if you living I sir jugadas chandra bose if you want a different point of view i just want a different point of view i just want a different point of view i just want to make a comment on that if you want to make a comment on that if you want to make a comment on that if you look at it in terms of how much look at it in terms of how much look at it in terms of how much resources it takes to feed an animal as resources it takes to feed an animal as resources it takes to feed an animal as opposed to eat an animal as a focus to opposed to eat an animal as a focus to opposed to eat an animal as a focus to raising plants and that might be a thing raising plants and that might be a thing raising plants and that might be a thing to consider as well but then it has to to consider as well but then it has to to consider as well but then it has to be a lot of scientific research done on be a lot of scientific research done on be a lot of scientific research done on what the human body really needs is what the human body really needs is what the human body really needs is similarly to also mm-hmm so a lot of similarly to also mm-hmm so a lot of similarly to also mm-hmm so a lot of work has to be done before any final work has to be done before any final work has to be done before any final conclusions but if you say I don't conclusions but if you say I don't conclusions but if you say I don't believe in taking a life I think you're believe in taking a life I think you're believe in taking a life I think you're clinging to an ideal that hasn't been clinging to an ideal that hasn't been clinging to an ideal that hasn't been verified yet verified yet verified yet he mentions here being one with nature he mentions here being one with nature he mentions here being one with nature your love you mean if you have a knife your love you mean if you have a knife your love you mean if you have a knife like you can help the earthquake what do like you can help the earthquake what do like you can help the earthquake what do you mean by one with nature some people you mean by one with nature some people you mean by one with nature some people call themselves nature lovers does that call themselves nature lovers does that call themselves nature lovers does that mean you like earthquakes hurricanes mean you like earthquakes hurricanes mean you like earthquakes hurricanes kasami's tornadoes all that's nature kasami's tornadoes all that's nature kasami's tornadoes all that's nature rattlesnake is nature there's also rattlesnake is nature there's also rattlesnake is nature there's also poisons in nature sulfur dioxide from poisons in nature sulfur dioxide from poisons in nature sulfur dioxide from volcanic discharge is nature so I don't volcanic discharge is nature so I don't volcanic discharge is nature so I don't believe that we like nation we like believe that we like nation we like believe that we like nation we like certain things about nature some things certain things about nature some things certain things about nature some things bond measure we don't like that disease bond measure we don't like that disease bond measure we don't like that disease earthquakes hurricanes tornadoes so when earthquakes hurricanes tornadoes so when earthquakes hurricanes tornadoes so when purses or nature lover I really don't purses or nature lover I really don't purses or nature lover I really don't know what they're talking about know what they're talking about know what they're talking about Chuck is it worth setting up an Chuck is it worth setting up an Chuck is it worth setting up an institute for semantics which deals with institute for semantics which deals with institute for semantics which deals with semantics as applied to social concern semantics as applied to social concern semantics as applied to social concern yes I'm interested and I don't know yes I'm interested and I don't know yes I'm interested and I don't know about just an institute of semantics about just an institute of semantics about just an institute of semantics entirely it would come to incorporate entirely it would come to incorporate entirely it would come to incorporate more than that would have to incorporate more than that would have to incorporate more than that would have to incorporate social concern yeah that's what he says social concern yeah that's what he says social concern yeah that's what he says is applied to social community in the is applied to social community in the is applied to social community in the seminar you say people's perceptions can seminar you say people's perceptions can seminar you say people's perceptions can differ on the same things are you afraid differ on the same things are you afraid differ on the same things are you afraid that many people many of the people who that many people many of the people who that many people many of the people who currently follow the Venus Project may currently follow the Venus Project may currently follow the Venus Project may have taken a different vision to that have taken a different vision to that have taken a different vision to that which you see yes because we haven't set which you see yes because we haven't set which you see yes because we haven't set up a school yet to personify exactly up a school yet to personify exactly up a school yet to personify exactly what we mean in other words we don't what we mean in other words we don't what we mean in other words we don't have the funding to make films to show have the funding to make films to show have the funding to make films to show people identical structures and how they people identical structures and how they people identical structures and how they work so therefore everything you say is work so therefore everything you say is work so therefore everything you say is subject to interpretation unfortunately subject to interpretation unfortunately subject to interpretation unfortunately unless it's in chemistry physics unless it's in chemistry physics unless it's in chemistry physics mathematics the scientific language is mathematics the scientific language is mathematics the scientific language is not as subject to interpretation as the not as subject to interpretation as the not as subject to interpretation as the everyday language which is mostly everyday language which is mostly everyday language which is mostly gibberish what will TV be like in a gibberish what will TV be like in a gibberish what will TV be like in a resource-based economy and will give you resource-based economy and will give you resource-based economy and will give you information as to what's new what the information as to what's new what the information as to what's new what the future prospects are what we're running future prospects are what we're running future prospects are what we're running out of what laboratories have developed out of what laboratories have developed out of what laboratories have developed and they will tell you the state of and they will tell you the state of and they will tell you the state of nature as we understand it not some nature as we understand it not some nature as we understand it not some opinion about anything everything will opinion about anything everything will opinion about anything everything will be put to test and verify to the best of be put to test and verify to the best of be put to test and verify to the best of our ability and will tell you that this our ability and will tell you that this our ability and will tell you that this is not the truth this is what we find is not the truth this is what we find is not the truth this is what we find out under these conditions have you any out under these conditions have you any out under these conditions have you any other suggestion next question I'm going other suggestion next question I'm going other suggestion next question I'm going to interpret a little bit just because to interpret a little bit just because to interpret a little bit just because of the English differences how do you of the English differences how do you of the English differences how do you make people follow the procedural make people follow the procedural make people follow the procedural systems of The Venus Project without systems of The Venus Project without systems of The Venus Project without imposing it imposing it imposing it you can't do that in engineering you you can't do that in engineering you you can't do that in engineering you have to apply certain principle in a have to apply certain principle in a have to apply certain principle in a tubular design you have to get the tubular design you have to get the tubular design you have to get the torsional thread the compression torsional thread the compression torsional thread the compression strength the tensions friends and other strength the tensions friends and other strength the tensions friends and other engineers give you the specifications engineers give you the specifications engineers give you the specifications and what the metal contains cobalt and what the metal contains cobalt and what the metal contains cobalt carbon a certain amount of steel and carbon a certain amount of steel and carbon a certain amount of steel and engineers always try to give you a engineers always try to give you a engineers always try to give you a descriptive point of view of the descriptive point of view of the descriptive point of view of the characteristics of the metal you're characteristics of the metal you're characteristics of the metal you're using chemists trying to give you the using chemists trying to give you the using chemists trying to give you the structure of chemistry they try to give structure of chemistry they try to give structure of chemistry they try to give you what they know about clients who you what they know about clients who you what they know about clients who would they know about materials but when would they know about materials but when would they know about materials but when normal people talk about things they normal people talk about things they normal people talk about things they don't go into that kind of detail so don't go into that kind of detail so don't go into that kind of detail so it's subject to interpretation chemistry it's subject to interpretation chemistry it's subject to interpretation chemistry physics mathematics engineering is not physics mathematics engineering is not physics mathematics engineering is not subject to interpretation it's subject subject to interpretation it's subject subject to interpretation it's subject to methods and testing so do you still to methods and testing so do you still to methods and testing so do you still feel that there are specific topics to feel that there are specific topics to feel that there are specific topics to be covered that you haven't yet gone be covered that you haven't yet gone be covered that you haven't yet gone into in detail yes many different into in detail yes many different into in detail yes many different subjects and many different explanations subjects and many different explanations subjects and many different explanations for much phenomena there are books you for much phenomena there are books you for much phenomena there are books you can pick up which we have on the website can pick up which we have on the website can pick up which we have on the website unusual phenomena there's a book called unusual phenomena there's a book called unusual phenomena there's a book called unusual phenomena another book called unusual phenomena another book called unusual phenomena another book called curiosities in nature and medicine which curiosities in nature and medicine which curiosities in nature and medicine which go to all kinds of anomalies so I would go to all kinds of anomalies so I would go to all kinds of anomalies so I would say the better informed you are in say the better informed you are in say the better informed you are in statistical data the more accurate your statistical data the more accurate your statistical data the more accurate your predictions predictions predictions and Jacques excluding experience because and Jacques excluding experience because and Jacques excluding experience because not all young people today can go not all young people today can go not all young people today can go through what you went through how can through what you went through how can through what you went through how can you shortcut your way to developing you shortcut your way to developing you shortcut your way to developing mental skills which give you the tools mental skills which give you the tools mental skills which give you the tools to break through to break things down to break through to break things down to break through to break things down during conversation just like you do not during conversation just like you do not during conversation just like you do not online conversation but I'm reading a online conversation but I'm reading a online conversation but I'm reading a book you'll have to be able to decipher book you'll have to be able to decipher book you'll have to be able to decipher which is speculation that which is which is speculation that which is which is speculation that which is verifiable there's a lot of books that verifiable there's a lot of books that verifiable there's a lot of books that have a lot of gibberish in it thanks have a lot of gibberish in it thanks have a lot of gibberish in it thanks ninety percent of the books in fact that ninety percent of the books in fact that ninety percent of the books in fact that ninety percent of what you read is ninety percent of what you read is ninety percent of what you read is opinionated and not based upon opinionated and not based upon opinionated and not based upon verifiable evidence unless you're verifiable evidence unless you're verifiable evidence unless you're talking about textbook or scientific talking about textbook or scientific talking about textbook or scientific book or book on metallurgy you see book or book on metallurgy you see book or book on metallurgy you see scientific books tell you what they scientific books tell you what they scientific books tell you what they found out about things when you read it found out about things when you read it found out about things when you read it a novel it really does nothing for you a novel it really does nothing for you a novel it really does nothing for you except gives you a personal except gives you a personal except gives you a personal interpretation of the individual that interpretation of the individual that interpretation of the individual that wrote the book wrote the book wrote the book what's the best way you have discovered what's the best way you have discovered what's the best way you have discovered to turn someone around from being a to turn someone around from being a to turn someone around from being a self-interest interested individual to self-interest interested individual to self-interest interested individual to one who is concerned with social one who is concerned with social one who is concerned with social interest I find it very difficult to interest I find it very difficult to interest I find it very difficult to work out yes it is but certain things work out yes it is but certain things work out yes it is but certain things that give you gratification and that's that give you gratification and that's that give you gratification and that's knowledge when the more knowledge you knowledge when the more knowledge you knowledge when the more knowledge you attain the more understanding you have attain the more understanding you have attain the more understanding you have of the world around you but if you study of the world around you but if you study of the world around you but if you study Business Administration banking poetry Business Administration banking poetry Business Administration banking poetry art you don't come off with real art you don't come off with real art you don't come off with real knowledge you come off with abstraction knowledge you come off with abstraction knowledge you come off with abstraction I'm just going to kind of refine the I'm just going to kind of refine the I'm just going to kind of refine the question more what do you think is the question more what do you think is the question more what do you think is the best way to discover to turn how do you best way to discover to turn how do you best way to discover to turn how do you turn someone around from being self turn someone around from being self turn someone around from being self interested to buy excel things by interested to buy excel things by interested to buy excel things by exposing them to the methods of exposing them to the methods of exposing them to the methods of scientists how scientists arrived at scientists how scientists arrived at scientists how scientists arrived at viewpoints the type of work they have to viewpoints the type of work they have to viewpoints the type of work they have to do to find out whether something is do to find out whether something is do to find out whether something is hearsay or physical correlation with the hearsay or physical correlation with the hearsay or physical correlation with the world you live in in other words if you world you live in in other words if you world you live in in other words if you do a survey of what the carrying do a survey of what the carrying do a survey of what the carrying capacity of the earth is and maintain a capacity of the earth is and maintain a capacity of the earth is and maintain a population in accordance with the population in accordance with the population in accordance with the carrying capacity of the resources carrying capacity of the resources carrying capacity of the resources that's the only system you've been used that's the only system you've been used that's the only system you've been used to determine how many people can the to determine how many people can the to determine how many people can the earth support by doing a survey of earth support by doing a survey of earth support by doing a survey of available resources and if you produce available resources and if you produce available resources and if you produce more people than the environment support more people than the environment support more people than the environment support you wouldn't have malnutrition you wouldn't have malnutrition you wouldn't have malnutrition territorial disputes they don't just territorial disputes they don't just territorial disputes they don't just come about or nothing they come about come about or nothing they come about come about or nothing they come about under certain conditions in the under certain conditions in the under certain conditions in the transitional period what do you propose transitional period what do you propose transitional period what do you propose to do with people who are in the prisons to do with people who are in the prisons to do with people who are in the prisons at that moment in other words it depends at that moment in other words it depends at that moment in other words it depends on what their profession is have their on what their profession is have their on what their profession is have their in the prison and they're an engineer as in the prison and they're an engineer as in the prison and they're an engineer as long as they come out of prison and long as they come out of prison and long as they come out of prison and practice social engineering applied practice social engineering applied practice social engineering applied engineering to benefit humanity they engineering to benefit humanity they engineering to benefit humanity they become serviceable whether in prison become serviceable whether in prison become serviceable whether in prison they do nothing of value Prison is the they do nothing of value Prison is the they do nothing of value Prison is the worst and form of groupie you can impose worst and form of groupie you can impose worst and form of groupie you can impose upon people police and prisons will be upon people police and prisons will be upon people police and prisons will be eliminated eliminated eliminated the future will deal with the problems the future will deal with the problems the future will deal with the problems that generate behavior that a socially that generate behavior that a socially that generate behavior that a socially offensive we will eliminate the offensive we will eliminate the offensive we will eliminate the conditions that generate socially conditions that generate socially conditions that generate socially offensive behavior do the members of the offensive behavior do the members of the offensive behavior do the members of the zeitgeist movement still contact you and zeitgeist movement still contact you and zeitgeist movement still contact you and jock no they do not some of the people jock no they do not some of the people jock no they do not some of the people that come to the tour's here come that come to the tour's here come that come to the tour's here come because I had first seen the Venus because I had first seen the Venus because I had first seen the Venus Project on Peters films but no we really Project on Peters films but no we really Project on Peters films but no we really don't hear from any of the zeitgeist don't hear from any of the zeitgeist don't hear from any of the zeitgeist movement members that we know of Jacques movement members that we know of Jacques movement members that we know of Jacques what books you recommend reading there's what books you recommend reading there's what books you recommend reading there's a book list on our website it's quite a book list on our website it's quite a book list on our website it's quite extensive but they're on all different extensive but they're on all different extensive but they're on all different topics and i would say check that out we topics and i would say check that out we topics and i would say check that out we have some DVDs on there as well connect have some DVDs on there as well connect have some DVDs on there as well connect loose thank you I've got a question here loose thank you I've got a question here loose thank you I've got a question here from the audience Jacques it's the from the audience Jacques it's the from the audience Jacques it's the British Queen's Diamond Jubilee this British Queen's Diamond Jubilee this British Queen's Diamond Jubilee this week what are your thoughts on this if week what are your thoughts on this if week what are your thoughts on this if you could meet the Queen what would you you could meet the Queen what would you you could meet the Queen what would you say to her BS Queen's nothing unless he say to her BS Queen's nothing unless he say to her BS Queen's nothing unless he increases the agricultural yield finds increases the agricultural yield finds increases the agricultural yield finds ways of treating heart disease better ways of treating heart disease better ways of treating heart disease better methods of education other wine a queen methods of education other wine a queen methods of education other wine a queen is a nothing thing some xueqing okay is a nothing thing some xueqing okay is a nothing thing some xueqing okay another question from the audience did another question from the audience did another question from the audience did you ever speak to Stuart chase about you ever speak to Stuart chase about you ever speak to Stuart chase about your ideas of social change and then I your ideas of social change and then I your ideas of social change and then I saw a chance okay I never spoke tone okay a question from Dave Walton he okay a question from Dave Walton he wants to know if you jock still keep up wants to know if you jock still keep up wants to know if you jock still keep up to date with advances in science today as best I can and whenever I have the as best I can and whenever I have the time I've read Scientific American or time I've read Scientific American or time I've read Scientific American or other magazines that have less other magazines that have less other magazines that have less projection more information I try to projection more information I try to projection more information I try to keep up with it as best I can would TVP keep up with it as best I can would TVP keep up with it as best I can would TVP be open to learning more about open be open to learning more about open be open to learning more about open source well it is an open source what it source well it is an open source what it source well it is an open source what it really means is are people going to get really means is are people going to get really means is are people going to get the best advantage I can from a the best advantage I can from a the best advantage I can from a scientific government if there's a scientific government if there's a scientific government if there's a government without money well you can't government without money well you can't government without money well you can't pay off politicians we don't follow the pay off politicians we don't follow the pay off politicians we don't follow the Declaration of free business or banks or Declaration of free business or banks or Declaration of free business or banks or lending institutions who will be far lending institutions who will be far lending institutions who will be far better than a monetary system we have to better than a monetary system we have to better than a monetary system we have to do wear with a monetary system the do wear with a monetary system the do wear with a monetary system the reason we have to do away with it is if reason we have to do away with it is if reason we have to do away with it is if you put up a half a million dollars they you put up a half a million dollars they you put up a half a million dollars they get somebody elected to political office get somebody elected to political office get somebody elected to political office they owe you a favor do you understand they owe you a favor do you understand they owe you a favor do you understand money can pay people off with the use of money can pay people off with the use of money can pay people off with the use of money you can sell drugs prostitution money you can sell drugs prostitution money you can sell drugs prostitution gambling if you do away with money there gambling if you do away with money there gambling if you do away with money there is no basis for selling drugs there's no is no basis for selling drugs there's no is no basis for selling drugs there's no basis for buying anybody a judge or basis for buying anybody a judge or basis for buying anybody a judge or lawyer you can't hire people to do your lawyer you can't hire people to do your lawyer you can't hire people to do your bidding if no money exists if your goal bidding if no money exists if your goal bidding if no money exists if your goal is to create TV PS version of a is to create TV PS version of a is to create TV PS version of a resource-based economy shouldn't the resource-based economy shouldn't the resource-based economy shouldn't the Venus Project have a very basic Venus Project have a very basic Venus Project have a very basic distribution algorithm for resources distribution algorithm for resources distribution algorithm for resources that exist at this moment you know me that exist at this moment you know me that exist at this moment you know me that all you need to do is put up new that all you need to do is put up new that all you need to do is put up new cities with a great technological cities with a great technological cities with a great technological advances that science is capable of but advances that science is capable of but advances that science is capable of but you don't need to put everything out in you don't need to put everything out in you don't need to put everything out in the open that means that the system is a the open that means that the system is a the open that means that the system is a fully well if you have to do that fully well if you have to do that fully well if you have to do that question was it shouldn't the Venus question was it shouldn't the Venus question was it shouldn't the Venus Project have an algorithm for all the Project have an algorithm for all the Project have an algorithm for all the resources that are out there we're not resources that are out there we're not resources that are out there we're not really in that position we do advocate really in that position we do advocate really in that position we do advocate having a survey at a certain time when having a survey at a certain time when having a survey at a certain time when we have the ability to use all the we have the ability to use all the we have the ability to use all the resources and do something with them resources and do something with them resources and do something with them right now it really is too premature I right now it really is too premature I right now it really is too premature I would say that's fairly accurate how do would say that's fairly accurate how do would say that's fairly accurate how do you convince people that the you convince people that the you convince people that the resource-based economy is in communism communism has armies and navies prisons communism has armies and navies prisons and police social stratification and the and police social stratification and the and police social stratification and the use of money as long as you have those use of money as long as you have those use of money as long as you have those things you cannot have a social system things you cannot have a social system things you cannot have a social system that's just for all people communism was that's just for all people communism was that's just for all people communism was also concerned with the working class also concerned with the working class also concerned with the working class and we want to actually bypass the need and we want to actually bypass the need and we want to actually bypass the need for a working class and automate as much for a working class and automate as much for a working class and automate as much as possible yes to free people from as possible yes to free people from as possible yes to free people from obligation when you work for a factory obligation when you work for a factory obligation when you work for a factory the minute you punch a time clock you the minute you punch a time clock you the minute you punch a time clock you walk in or dictatorship they don't ask walk in or dictatorship they don't ask walk in or dictatorship they don't ask you what you'd like to do what you're you what you'd like to do what you're you what you'd like to do what you're interested in they put you on an interested in they put you on an interested in they put you on an assignment you eat the type or you're in assignment you eat the type or you're in assignment you eat the type or you're in the sales department or manufacturing we the sales department or manufacturing we the sales department or manufacturing we are brain machines that is not a are brain machines that is not a are brain machines that is not a democracy that's a dictatorship Oh democracy that's a dictatorship Oh democracy that's a dictatorship Oh private industry and all department private industry and all department private industry and all department stores or anybody you work for is a stores or anybody you work for is a stores or anybody you work for is a dictatorship think about it okay next question Jacques what do you okay next question Jacques what do you think about abortion it isn't what I think about abortion it isn't what I think about abortion it isn't what I think about it's what the people who think about it's what the people who think about it's what the people who want an abortion thing about it if they want an abortion thing about it if they want an abortion thing about it if they want an abortion it should be permitted want an abortion it should be permitted want an abortion it should be permitted to undergo that process how do you to undergo that process how do you to undergo that process how do you interpret the situation in Greece is the interpret the situation in Greece is the interpret the situation in Greece is the Venus Project ready to propose a new Venus Project ready to propose a new Venus Project ready to propose a new small government and take over no it small government and take over no it small government and take over no it won't do you take over what will happen won't do you take over what will happen won't do you take over what will happen is if the system fails people will look is if the system fails people will look is if the system fails people will look for other directions and they will for other directions and they will for other directions and they will select that direction based on that select that direction based on that select that direction based on that background if it doesn't work that will background if it doesn't work that will background if it doesn't work that will fail until they come up with a system fail until they come up with a system fail until they come up with a system that does work if enough people know that does work if enough people know that does work if enough people know about the Venus Project yes it'll be about the Venus Project yes it'll be about the Venus Project yes it'll be voted in but enough people do not know voted in but enough people do not know voted in but enough people do not know about it just yet go ahead Roxanne no I was just go ahead Roxanne no I was just questioning the use of being voted in questioning the use of being voted in questioning the use of being voted in but I was just asking Jacques he said it but I was just asking Jacques he said it but I was just asking Jacques he said it would be enacted whatever method comes would be enacted whatever method comes would be enacted whatever method comes about whether it's forced in or voted in about whether it's forced in or voted in about whether it's forced in or voted in at the time for not people know about it at the time for not people know about it at the time for not people know about it people don't know about it it cannot people don't know about it it cannot people don't know about it it cannot like her the Arab world who removed like her the Arab world who removed like her the Arab world who removed their dictators if they don't have an their dictators if they don't have an their dictators if they don't have an alternative system it won't work out any alternative system it won't work out any alternative system it won't work out any better okay next question what specific better okay next question what specific better okay next question what specific functions will jaw and larry serve after functions will jaw and larry serve after functions will jaw and larry serve after you have passed away are they ready to you have passed away are they ready to you have passed away are they ready to talk about the venus project as talk about the venus project as talk about the venus project as adequately as you are joke well there's adequately as you are joke well there's adequately as you are joke well there's still students i would say in time yes still students i would say in time yes still students i would say in time yes but they do have more information than but they do have more information than but they do have more information than the average person about the venus the average person about the venus the average person about the venus project how they will use it depends on project how they will use it depends on project how they will use it depends on their interpretation and their their interpretation and their their interpretation and their background so far we don't have any background so far we don't have any background so far we don't have any schools set up to describe the Venus schools set up to describe the Venus schools set up to describe the Venus projects working conditions although projects working conditions although projects working conditions although we've work as hard as we can to get that we've work as hard as we can to get that we've work as hard as we can to get that information out in the tour's when information out in the tour's when information out in the tour's when people come out here we try to give them people come out here we try to give them people come out here we try to give them specific information of how to attain a specific information of how to attain a specific information of how to attain a value system that will work I think value system that will work I think value system that will work I think there are a lot of people out there who there are a lot of people out there who there are a lot of people out there who know a lot about this direction due to know a lot about this direction due to know a lot about this direction due to the information that we get out in a lot the information that we get out in a lot the information that we get out in a lot of areas in books and videos and so they of areas in books and videos and so they of areas in books and videos and so they sometimes even though they might know sometimes even though they might know sometimes even though they might know Jacques for many years some of the Jacques for many years some of the Jacques for many years some of the people that went to the old lectures it people that went to the old lectures it people that went to the old lectures it doesn't mean that they understand it as doesn't mean that they understand it as doesn't mean that they understand it as much as some of the people who have been much as some of the people who have been much as some of the people who have been introduced to it recently just depends introduced to it recently just depends introduced to it recently just depends on their background Stan do you have a on their background Stan do you have a on their background Stan do you have a question yes I question yes I question yes I question from my friend would like to question from my friend would like to question from my friend would like to pass if we got builders suppliers the pass if we got builders suppliers the pass if we got builders suppliers the Nigerians and technologists after the Nigerians and technologists after the Nigerians and technologists after the first city will be constructed candy first city will be constructed candy first city will be constructed candy referred to that project in their referred to that project in their referred to that project in their advertisement and will do you consider advertisement and will do you consider advertisement and will do you consider to give them advertisement space in the to give them advertisement space in the to give them advertisement space in the city after this video we can strap city after this video we can strap city after this video we can strap are you talking about people that work are you talking about people that work are you talking about people that work on the city would they have on the city would they have on the city would they have advertisement space in the city advertisement space in the city advertisement space in the city afterwards milind gunaji no commercials afterwards milind gunaji no commercials afterwards milind gunaji no commercials would you see that true with the first would you see that true with the first would you see that true with the first city if it's a city within the monetary city if it's a city within the monetary city if it's a city within the monetary so in the first lady okay thank you that so in the first lady okay thank you that so in the first lady okay thank you that was questioned about if you how you can was questioned about if you how you can was questioned about if you how you can attract builders and manufacturers to attract builders and manufacturers to attract builders and manufacturers to donate materials and technologies to for donate materials and technologies to for donate materials and technologies to for first city construction if they can use first city construction if they can use first city construction if they can use it vertising no no one that makes any it vertising no no one that makes any it vertising no no one that makes any contributions to the venus project contributions to the venus project contributions to the venus project dictates the policy nice talking about dictates the policy nice talking about dictates the policy nice talking about it would they have say if somebody it would they have say if somebody it would they have say if somebody donated a sewage system could they say donated a sewage system could they say donated a sewage system could they say who donated it in what processes you who donated it in what processes you who donated it in what processes you know the shape of things to come by hg know the shape of things to come by hg know the shape of things to come by hg wells is on your reading list the book wells is on your reading list the book wells is on your reading list the book is about the predictions of the future is about the predictions of the future is about the predictions of the future made 80 years ago could you explain why made 80 years ago could you explain why made 80 years ago could you explain why you chose that book I only picked that you chose that book I only picked that you chose that book I only picked that book to give people an idea born hg book to give people an idea born hg book to give people an idea born hg wells had in mind but i don't recommend wells had in mind but i don't recommend wells had in mind but i don't recommend it as a solution i recommend it as it as a solution i recommend it as it as a solution i recommend it as reading just to give you a different reading just to give you a different reading just to give you a different point of view than the one you brought point of view than the one you brought point of view than the one you brought up to believe in did you feel that hg up to believe in did you feel that hg up to believe in did you feel that hg wells had good social commentary or wells had good social commentary or wells had good social commentary or social and better social commentary and social and better social commentary and social and better social commentary and the ball of his time did and edward the ball of his time did and edward the ball of his time did and edward Bellamy's looking backward had very good Bellamy's looking backward had very good Bellamy's looking backward had very good comparisons to help people understand comparisons to help people understand comparisons to help people understand the benefits of a cooperative society as the benefits of a cooperative society as the benefits of a cooperative society as against a competitive society yes that's against a competitive society yes that's against a competitive society yes that's true too cos Bellamy's book has old true too cos Bellamy's book has old true too cos Bellamy's book has old technology it's interesting to see his technology it's interesting to see his technology it's interesting to see his predictions even in technology at that predictions even in technology at that predictions even in technology at that time but he did have interesting social time but he did have interesting social time but he did have interesting social commentary about how to solve things commentary about how to solve things commentary about how to solve things communally and hey his fiction of what communally and hey his fiction of what communally and hey his fiction of what the world could look like to eliminate the world could look like to eliminate the world could look like to eliminate some of the problems that we had yes some of the problems that we had yes some of the problems that we had yes Edward Bellamy had a lot of good ideas Edward Bellamy had a lot of good ideas Edward Bellamy had a lot of good ideas by reading that book you will have a by reading that book you will have a by reading that book you will have a different point of view different point of view different point of view and the one you get in school or a and the one you get in school or a and the one you get in school or a university today okay another question university today okay another question university today okay another question from the audience if you do not wish to from the audience if you do not wish to from the audience if you do not wish to credit or reference the designer of the credit or reference the designer of the credit or reference the designer of the sewer system how will anyone find who sewer system how will anyone find who sewer system how will anyone find who designed it no they don't concern designed it no they don't concern designed it no they don't concern themselves who design are you talking themselves who design are you talking themselves who design are you talking about may concern themselves with how about may concern themselves with how about may concern themselves with how well the system works now they're well the system works now they're well the system works now they're talking about a transitional City the talking about a transitional City the talking about a transitional City the first city in the monetary system would first city in the monetary system would first city in the monetary system would you credit if companies gave oh you will you credit if companies gave oh you will you credit if companies gave oh you will need we can say that done Johnson need we can say that done Johnson need we can say that done Johnson success treatment for cancer dr. Benton success treatment for cancer dr. Benton success treatment for cancer dr. Benton suggests this treatment another suggests this treatment another suggests this treatment another treatment we present all the different treatment we present all the different treatment we present all the different concepts that have never been fully concepts that have never been fully concepts that have never been fully verified would that be true with verified would that be true with verified would that be true with products that people donate to enhance products that people donate to enhance products that people donate to enhance the city no no you will know where the city no no you will know where the city no no you will know where because the people that donate things to because the people that donate things to because the people that donate things to the city of donating existing concepts the city of donating existing concepts the city of donating existing concepts and you don't know for sure where those and you don't know for sure where those and you don't know for sure where those concepts came from and may come from an concepts came from and may come from an concepts came from and may come from an underling in the city it may come from a underling in the city it may come from a underling in the city it may come from a person that works for a company but the person that works for a company but the person that works for a company but the company may present the idea as over company may present the idea as over company may present the idea as over their ideas is not necessarily that way their ideas is not necessarily that way their ideas is not necessarily that way so we don't use that system we use a so we don't use that system we use a so we don't use that system we use a different system we say here's a new way different system we say here's a new way different system we say here's a new way to filter water here several new ways to filter water here several new ways to filter water here several new ways for filtering water here's several ways for filtering water here's several ways for filtering water here's several ways of reverting salt water to drinking of reverting salt water to drinking of reverting salt water to drinking water we present the methods and we do water we present the methods and we do water we present the methods and we do not present the institute that developed not present the institute that developed not present the institute that developed it otherwise you have to resend every it otherwise you have to resend every it otherwise you have to resend every bit of the way every name of every bit of the way every name of every bit of the way every name of every person that was influenced by every person that was influenced by every person that was influenced by every other person and it becomes very other person and it becomes very other person and it becomes very cumbersome within the monetary system if cumbersome within the monetary system if cumbersome within the monetary system if a company donates saying their new a company donates saying their new a company donates saying their new lighting system where ever there came lighting system where ever there came lighting system where ever there came from you wouldn't mention you wouldn't from you wouldn't mention you wouldn't from you wouldn't mention you wouldn't want to mention the light the company want to mention the light the company want to mention the light the company don't know do you think then the don't know do you think then the don't know do you think then the companies might not have the initiative companies might not have the initiative companies might not have the initiative to donate if they don't get some name no to donate if they don't get some name no to donate if they don't get some name no doubt okay yeah I'd like to actually doubt okay yeah I'd like to actually doubt okay yeah I'd like to actually jump on it jump in here if possible sure jump on it jump in here if possible sure jump on it jump in here if possible sure usually people ask how will one be usually people ask how will one be usually people ask how will one be convinced to give one big convince to convinced to give one big convince to convinced to give one big convince to give something basically for free give something basically for free give something basically for free because this is the big question how do because this is the big question how do because this is the big question how do we build the first city what I always we build the first city what I always we build the first city what I always given as an example is like basically given as an example is like basically given as an example is like basically the son of an owner of a printing the son of an owner of a printing the son of an owner of a printing factory I had actually a similar factory I had actually a similar factory I had actually a similar situation so I got the Sun involved and situation so I got the Sun involved and situation so I got the Sun involved and he got so interested in The Venus he got so interested in The Venus he got so interested in The Venus Project that he got his dad involved and Project that he got his dad involved and Project that he got his dad involved and now when we talk about printing books now when we talk about printing books now when we talk about printing books such as the best money can buy it's very such as the best money can buy it's very such as the best money can buy it's very easy to talk to the Father basically the easy to talk to the Father basically the easy to talk to the Father basically the owner of the company and say to him what owner of the company and say to him what owner of the company and say to him what kind of price can give us and if he kind of price can give us and if he kind of price can give us and if he can't give us for free because the cost can't give us for free because the cost can't give us for free because the cost to hide then he give us the base cost so to hide then he give us the base cost so to hide then he give us the base cost so basically once your have some kind of a basically once your have some kind of a basically once your have some kind of a resource and you're convinced that this resource and you're convinced that this resource and you're convinced that this is the direction that that you have to is the direction that that you have to is the direction that that you have to go to you actually donate this resource go to you actually donate this resource go to you actually donate this resource because you you believe in this because you you believe in this because you you believe in this direction because it's not basically direction because it's not basically direction because it's not basically it's like part of you and yeah I think it's like part of you and yeah I think it's like part of you and yeah I think that's an example that I like to give that's an example that I like to give that's an example that I like to give yeah that's a good example yes that's yeah that's a good example yes that's yeah that's a good example yes that's accurate people donate their ability accurate people donate their ability accurate people donate their ability their engineering build and knowledge of their engineering build and knowledge of their engineering build and knowledge of chemistry their knowledge of social chemistry their knowledge of social chemistry their knowledge of social behavior because they believe in system behavior because they believe in system behavior because they believe in system here with gun because they want credit here with gun because they want credit here with gun because they want credit for it if it is automatically when you for it if it is automatically when you for it if it is automatically when you see no war no poverty no solving people see no war no poverty no solving people see no war no poverty no solving people that's enough reward for people that are that's enough reward for people that are that's enough reward for people that are saying but if they want their name saying but if they want their name saying but if they want their name blessed it across the system only during blessed it across the system only during blessed it across the system only during the transition you might name the source the transition you might name the source the transition you might name the source the reason for so people can cost the reason for so people can cost the reason for so people can cost question the source if they have question the source if they have question the source if they have additional improvements they wish to additional improvements they wish to additional improvements they wish to make they want to know who to contact to make they want to know who to contact to make they want to know who to contact to make those recommendations ok if you don't understand that Tesla ok if you don't understand that Tesla came up with certain ideas you contact came up with certain ideas you contact came up with certain ideas you contact Tesla if you want to know how those Tesla if you want to know how those Tesla if you want to know how those ideas work you contact Tesla only for ideas work you contact Tesla only for ideas work you contact Tesla only for further information not for credit question algebra has been designed question algebra has been designed thousands of years ago and influences thousands of years ago and influences thousands of years ago and influences how we interpret reality do you believe how we interpret reality do you believe how we interpret reality do you believe there will be a major shift in there will be a major shift in there will be a major shift in scientific language also do you have a scientific language also do you have a scientific language also do you have a team working on a language placed on team working on a language placed on team working on a language placed on semantics not yet we do not have a team semantics not yet we do not have a team semantics not yet we do not have a team working on that yet there are other working on that yet there are other working on that yet there are other things that have to be done first teach things that have to be done first teach things that have to be done first teach the public about the scientific method the public about the scientific method the public about the scientific method and why it is a closer method of and why it is a closer method of and why it is a closer method of understanding the world living and it's understanding the world living and it's understanding the world living and it's better than any other method at present better than any other method at present better than any other method at present do you believe there'll be a major shift do you believe there'll be a major shift do you believe there'll be a major shift in scientific langless I do think there in scientific langless I do think there in scientific langless I do think there will be major shifts in scientific will be major shifts in scientific will be major shifts in scientific language if the venus project gets the language if the venus project gets the language if the venus project gets the heads up for the experimental city heads up for the experimental city heads up for the experimental city before the major motion picture would before the major motion picture would before the major motion picture would jacque and roxanne be willing to go jacque and roxanne be willing to go jacque and roxanne be willing to go forward with that oh yes we would be forward with that oh yes we would be forward with that oh yes we would be willing to go forward definitely we are willing to go forward definitely we are willing to go forward definitely we are actually working toward that right now actually working toward that right now actually working toward that right now as well we're talking to contractors and as well we're talking to contractors and as well we're talking to contractors and getting prices for architectural final getting prices for architectural final getting prices for architectural final architectural drawings and engineering architectural drawings and engineering architectural drawings and engineering drawings and we may have somebody who drawings and we may have somebody who drawings and we may have somebody who will bill for that and that could be you will bill for that and that could be you will bill for that and that could be you know million dollars or more and then know million dollars or more and then know million dollars or more and then we're going to be getting the quote from we're going to be getting the quote from we're going to be getting the quote from that from the contractor and see what we that from the contractor and see what we that from the contractor and see what we can do because we have had I'm not can do because we have had I'm not can do because we have had I'm not exactly sure what we had never really exactly sure what we had never really exactly sure what we had never really looked into it that much but we have had looked into it that much but we have had looked into it that much but we have had groups of people couple of them who groups of people couple of them who groups of people couple of them who wanted to give us large thumbs up or wanted to give us large thumbs up or wanted to give us large thumbs up or they wanted to see a proposal for the they wanted to see a proposal for the they wanted to see a proposal for the city and we needed to have the financial city and we needed to have the financial city and we needed to have the financial breakdowns and we didn't and so we are breakdowns and we didn't and so we are breakdowns and we didn't and so we are trying to work on that so we would work trying to work on that so we would work trying to work on that so we would work on we are working on both and I think on we are working on both and I think on we are working on both and I think you know as people did approach us you know as people did approach us you know as people did approach us before and asked before and asked before and asked about if we could do the cydia wanted to about if we could do the cydia wanted to about if we could do the cydia wanted to do the city if we had enough funding to do the city if we had enough funding to do the city if we had enough funding to do the city I don't think you know we do the city I don't think you know we do the city I don't think you know we could do the movie with some of those could do the movie with some of those could do the movie with some of those funds as well we couldn't work that in funds as well we couldn't work that in funds as well we couldn't work that in do you worry that reforming people who do you worry that reforming people who do you worry that reforming people who have been significantly damaged by have been significantly damaged by have been significantly damaged by abusive institutions could overwhelm abusive institutions could overwhelm abusive institutions could overwhelm resource-based economy in its early resource-based economy in its early resource-based economy in its early stages a resource-based economy is stages a resource-based economy is stages a resource-based economy is really based on assignments people are really based on assignments people are really based on assignments people are given different assignments they don't given different assignments they don't given different assignments they don't do their own thing so they can't go off do their own thing so they can't go off do their own thing so they can't go off the tracks Jacques what do you suggest the tracks Jacques what do you suggest the tracks Jacques what do you suggest that people do during this year's that people do during this year's that people do during this year's election do you suggest that they stay election do you suggest that they stay election do you suggest that they stay home or talk to people about the Venus home or talk to people about the Venus home or talk to people about the Venus Project always talk to people about the Project always talk to people about the Project always talk to people about the Vita and funding participating in the Vita and funding participating in the Vita and funding participating in the elections will not alter things so in elections will not alter things so in elections will not alter things so in other words you suggest that people other words you suggest that people other words you suggest that people don't bother the boat exactly the night don't bother the boat exactly the night don't bother the boat exactly the night against the people don't bother they against the people don't bother they against the people don't bother they don't bother to vote ok don't bother to vote ok don't bother to vote ok it's not going to change anything if you it's not going to change anything if you it's not going to change anything if you vote the same kind of people are vote the same kind of people are vote the same kind of people are selected that will uphold the social selected that will uphold the social selected that will uphold the social institutions that exist I have another institutions that exist I have another institutions that exist I have another question here what does Jacques think question here what does Jacques think question here what does Jacques think about other medium to introduce about other medium to introduce about other medium to introduce resource-based economy other than videos resource-based economy other than videos resource-based economy other than videos like art comic books computer games like art comic books computer games like art comic books computer games music and so forth any method whatsoever music and so forth any method whatsoever music and so forth any method whatsoever that makes the information available is that makes the information available is that makes the information available is okay we're all for all those mediums to okay we're all for all those mediums to okay we're all for all those mediums to introduce scientific method introduce scientific method introduce scientific method resource-based economy in The Venus resource-based economy in The Venus resource-based economy in The Venus Project rap sessions rap music all kind Project rap sessions rap music all kind Project rap sessions rap music all kind anything that will help people anything that will help people anything that will help people understand some systems are better than understand some systems are better than understand some systems are better than others but use whatever system you're others but use whatever system you're others but use whatever system you're capable of using okay here's another capable of using okay here's another capable of using okay here's another question in a resource-based economy who question in a resource-based economy who question in a resource-based economy who would get a home versus and apartments would get a home versus and apartments would get a home versus and apartments well doing the transition will be well doing the transition will be well doing the transition will be problems but the first people they get problems but the first people they get problems but the first people they get home apartments on the planners the home apartments on the planners the home apartments on the planners the people that can plan city's plan food people that can plan city's plan food people that can plan city's plan food production the people that are necessary production the people that are necessary production the people that are necessary to carry us through the transition and to carry us through the transition and to carry us through the transition and that's people teaching other people's that's people teaching other people's that's people teaching other people's about this direction as well but I think about this direction as well but I think about this direction as well but I think the question if i'm not mistaken was who the question if i'm not mistaken was who the question if i'm not mistaken was who determines who bits a home as opposed to determines who bits a home as opposed to determines who bits a home as opposed to an apartment was that the question Joe an apartment was that the question Joe an apartment was that the question Joe who would get a home versus an apartment who would get a home versus an apartment who would get a home versus an apartment and a resource-based economy not just and a resource-based economy not just and a resource-based economy not just necessarily the transition but in the necessarily the transition but in the necessarily the transition but in the venus project itself they don't get a venus project itself they don't get a venus project itself they don't get a home they get a place to live and the home they get a place to live and the home they get a place to live and the place to live is Henry you don't own place to live is Henry you don't own place to live is Henry you don't own anything in the Venus Project your anything in the Venus Project your anything in the Venus Project your assigned different project and you live assigned different project and you live assigned different project and you live near the project and the ability to near the project and the ability to near the project and the ability to perform in that area is what determines perform in that area is what determines perform in that area is what determines where you live I guess this question is where you live I guess this question is where you live I guess this question is what if more people want a home rather what if more people want a home rather what if more people want a home rather than abandon apartment and who than abandon apartment and who than abandon apartment and who determines who gets those homes during determines who gets those homes during determines who gets those homes during the transition your ability to perform the transition your ability to perform the transition your ability to perform in a given area determines where you in a given area determines where you in a given area determines where you live you don't determine that during the live you don't determine that during the live you don't determine that during the transition after the transition things transition after the transition things transition after the transition things are different also well those people are different also well those people are different also well those people learn different disciplines and they're learn different disciplines and they're learn different disciplines and they're assigned different tasks if you're a assigned different tasks if you're a assigned different tasks if you're a pilot that flies commercial airline you pilot that flies commercial airline you pilot that flies commercial airline you fly by commercial airliners I think this fly by commercial airliners I think this fly by commercial airliners I think this is the question what if there are is the question what if there are is the question what if there are limited amounts of homes then they'll be limited amounts of homes then they'll be limited amounts of homes then they'll be rationed by the ability of the people rationed by the ability of the people rationed by the ability of the people who occupy those homes their function in who occupy those homes their function in who occupy those homes their function in relations of society if they can grow relations of society if they can grow relations of society if they can grow the food prepare mass housing systems the food prepare mass housing systems the food prepare mass housing systems they will function people that ago would they will function people that ago would they will function people that ago would go back to school study mass housing go back to school study mass housing go back to school study mass housing systems you never is needed you're systems you never is needed you're systems you never is needed you're talking about those who are technical talking about those who are technical talking about those who are technical will be in the city but I have people do will be in the city but I have people do will be in the city but I have people do not want the homes they were assigned not want the homes they were assigned not want the homes they were assigned the homes by their ability to render the homes by their ability to render the homes by their ability to render service to society and render any service to society and render any service to society and render any particular service to society they are particular service to society they are particular service to society they are not assigned a home in a given region if not assigned a home in a given region if not assigned a home in a given region if your home is new mass production areas your home is new mass production areas your home is new mass production areas and your ability is in mass production and your ability is in mass production and your ability is in mass production and automation you are given or and automation you are given or and automation you are given or temporarily assigned that home in that temporarily assigned that home in that temporarily assigned that home in that region what if some people were given an region what if some people were given an region what if some people were given an apartment but they want the home nobody apartment but they want the home nobody apartment but they want the home nobody is giving an apartment they're assigned is giving an apartment they're assigned is giving an apartment they're assigned if you don't know what that means it if you don't know what that means it if you don't know what that means it means that people would be ability the means that people would be ability the means that people would be ability the function and a given area are assigned a function and a given area are assigned a function and a given area are assigned a living place living place living place I'd like to jump in here please go ahead I'd like to jump in here please go ahead I'd like to jump in here please go ahead when it comes to accommodation the one when it comes to accommodation the one when it comes to accommodation the one thing that people actually forget is thing that people actually forget is thing that people actually forget is actually the level let's say the actually the level let's say the actually the level let's say the standard of accommodation if we compare standard of accommodation if we compare standard of accommodation if we compare a normal hostel like a hotel but just a normal hostel like a hotel but just a normal hostel like a hotel but just the room and with very bad liquid the room and with very bad liquid the room and with very bad liquid bathroom to a five or seven star hotel bathroom to a five or seven star hotel bathroom to a five or seven star hotel then if we ask a person would you like then if we ask a person would you like then if we ask a person would you like to live in a hospital in an environment to live in a hospital in an environment to live in a hospital in an environment that is not very well equipped of course that is not very well equipped of course that is not very well equipped of course the person would refuse but nobody the person would refuse but nobody the person would refuse but nobody nobody at all has any problem with nobody at all has any problem with nobody at all has any problem with living in a five or seven star hotel the living in a five or seven star hotel the living in a five or seven star hotel the point is is that when you have actually point is is that when you have actually point is is that when you have actually all the equipment in all the all the equipment in all the all the equipment in all the accommodation parts let's say like that accommodation parts let's say like that accommodation parts let's say like that a house or an apartment you wouldn't a house or an apartment you wouldn't a house or an apartment you wouldn't actually mind living in one of the other actually mind living in one of the other actually mind living in one of the other it's more of what basically question is it's more of what basically question is it's more of what basically question is based on the current values yes that's based on the current values yes that's based on the current values yes that's true today people want homes and to be true today people want homes and to be true today people want homes and to be isolated more so but I think eventually isolated more so but I think eventually isolated more so but I think eventually more people would want to live in more people would want to live in more people would want to live in apartments because they have more things apartments because they have more things apartments because they have more things in the apartments they're very close to in the apartments they're very close to in the apartments they're very close to gymnasiums or restaurants right nearby gymnasiums or restaurants right nearby gymnasiums or restaurants right nearby or anything else that they might want or anything else that they might want or anything else that they might want within the apartments because you can within the apartments because you can within the apartments because you can accommodate people more so it would be accommodate people more so it would be accommodate people more so it would be soundproof they have very good soundproof they have very good soundproof they have very good accommodations and it would be more accommodations and it would be more accommodations and it would be more efficient to have people in apartments efficient to have people in apartments efficient to have people in apartments rather than homes side Shepherd in rather than homes side Shepherd in rather than homes side Shepherd in separate homes yes that's not as an separate homes yes that's not as an separate homes yes that's not as an efficient I think when the standard of efficient I think when the standard of efficient I think when the standard of living is so high in the apartments they living is so high in the apartments they living is so high in the apartments they would probably like that we have would probably like that we have would probably like that we have apartment will have emergency medical apartment will have emergency medical apartment will have emergency medical services dental services shopping access services dental services shopping access services dental services shopping access to resources you don't have that in to resources you don't have that in to resources you don't have that in individual homes you have to drive to individual homes you have to drive to individual homes you have to drive to the shopping center you have to take the shopping center you have to take the shopping center you have to take your children to school in the future your children to school in the future your children to school in the future what we call total and closure systems what we call total and closure systems what we call total and closure systems have schools libraries everything built have schools libraries everything built have schools libraries everything built in the apartment so it's more in the apartment so it's more in the apartment so it's more advantageous to live in an apartment it advantageous to live in an apartment it advantageous to live in an apartment it won't be a question of the people want won't be a question of the people want won't be a question of the people want to to to homes they won't want they would want homes they won't want they would want homes they won't want they would want the maximum surface they can get and the the maximum surface they can get and the the maximum surface they can get and the way you get that is by following the way you get that is by following the way you get that is by following the assignment system we assign people assignment system we assign people assignment system we assign people different areas depending on their different areas depending on their different areas depending on their background and their physical background and their physical background and their physical capabilities then they mental capabilities then they mental capabilities then they mental capabilities it doesn't mean maybe a capabilities it doesn't mean maybe a capabilities it doesn't mean maybe a something something lesser than other something something lesser than other something something lesser than other people no never did you find ask is people no never did you find ask is people no never did you find ask is whether there'll be any kind of elitism whether there'll be any kind of elitism whether there'll be any kind of elitism the answer is no there'll be no the answer is no there'll be no the answer is no there'll be no technical elitism or any other kind of technical elitism or any other kind of technical elitism or any other kind of elitism the people assigned project will elitism the people assigned project will elitism the people assigned project will work harder than the average person in work harder than the average person in work harder than the average person in regards to this concept of assigning regards to this concept of assigning regards to this concept of assigning people places to live and what not people places to live and what not people places to live and what not brings up another question how much brings up another question how much brings up another question how much Liberty will there be in the Venus Liberty will there be in the Venus Liberty will there be in the Venus Project as compared to a monetary system the liberty of The Venus Project would a the liberty of The Venus Project would a deeper understanding of nature human deeper understanding of nature human deeper understanding of nature human behavior the reason for war the reason behavior the reason for war the reason behavior the reason for war the reason for anger and hostility they be so well for anger and hostility they be so well for anger and hostility they be so well informed that they would find a motion informed that they would find a motion informed that they would find a motion picture shot in our time as a horror picture shot in our time as a horror picture shot in our time as a horror movie they would look back at our system movie they would look back at our system movie they would look back at our system as a horrible system to live in due to as a horrible system to live in due to as a horrible system to live in due to their newer education and that's what their newer education and that's what their newer education and that's what happens that people that come here to happens that people that come here to happens that people that come here to the tour they come one way and they walk the tour they come one way and they walk the tour they come one way and they walk out very different because we really out very different because we really out very different because we really have a chance to ask all kinds of have a chance to ask all kinds of have a chance to ask all kinds of questions and question motives and questions and question motives and questions and question motives and grammar and everything else so really grammar and everything else so really grammar and everything else so really the best way to learn about the Venus the best way to learn about the Venus the best way to learn about the Venus Project is easier to get the book called Project is easier to get the book called Project is easier to get the book called the best that money can't buy we'll come the best that money can't buy we'll come the best that money can't buy we'll come to our tours that you can't it's not to our tours that you can't it's not to our tours that you can't it's not really a tour it's a cerebral enema will really a tour it's a cerebral enema will really a tour it's a cerebral enema will we clean out the old values how do you suggest to engage people with how do you suggest to engage people with this Venus Project values in proposal this Venus Project values in proposal this Venus Project values in proposal who cannot attend the tour or who live who cannot attend the tour or who live who cannot attend the tour or who live in other countries and don't speak the in other countries and don't speak the in other countries and don't speak the language how would you suggest to to language how would you suggest to to language how would you suggest to to engage them in the process how to engage them in the process how to engage them in the process how to actually present them comfortable how actually present them comfortable how actually present them comfortable how better present them The Venus Project better present them The Venus Project better present them The Venus Project wreath look the best that we can buy if wreath look the best that we can buy if wreath look the best that we can buy if you can't attend the sessions how do you you can't attend the sessions how do you you can't attend the sessions how do you get people interested in the Venus get people interested in the Venus get people interested in the Venus Project I think you read the book the Project I think you read the book the Project I think you read the book the best that money can't buy this person best that money can't buy this person best that money can't buy this person asks how can you say there will be no asks how can you say there will be no asks how can you say there will be no elitism when the designers of the elitism when the designers of the elitism when the designers of the resource distribution algorithm would resource distribution algorithm would resource distribution algorithm would have the most control they don't have have the most control they don't have have the most control they don't have control their assigned projects I said control their assigned projects I said control their assigned projects I said that many times no one controls anything that many times no one controls anything that many times no one controls anything they are assigned different task if you they are assigned different task if you they are assigned different task if you want to build a bridge you get bridge want to build a bridge you get bridge want to build a bridge you get bridge engineers together if there are chemical engineers together if there are chemical engineers together if there are chemical problems making you a composite material problems making you a composite material problems making you a composite material for building that doesn't out of you for building that doesn't out of you for building that doesn't out of you bring construction engineers and bring construction engineers and bring construction engineers and material developers together you bring material developers together you bring material developers together you bring people that are familiar with that field people that are familiar with that field people that are familiar with that field and it's not a privilege it's hard work and it's not a privilege it's hard work and it's not a privilege it's hard work the people who are building and the people who are building and the people who are building and designing they don't have control of the designing they don't have control of the designing they don't have control of the resources and they don't allocate resources and they don't allocate resources and they don't allocate resources to different people or tell resources to different people or tell resources to different people or tell different people what they can do within different people what they can do within different people what they can do within the city yes you own a factory you the city yes you own a factory you the city yes you own a factory you assign people from tasks in airplane as assign people from tasks in airplane as assign people from tasks in airplane as they some people work on the land again they some people work on the land again they some people work on the land again some people work on the wings some some people work on the wings some some people work on the wings some people work on remote control systems people work on remote control systems people work on remote control systems some people work on instruments they're some people work on instruments they're some people work on instruments they're assigned those heads by their background assigned those heads by their background assigned those heads by their background and their ability to perform a dictate and their ability to perform a dictate and their ability to perform a dictate policy they merely carry out their policy they merely carry out their policy they merely carry out their assignment bridges and news build assignment bridges and news build assignment bridges and news build bridges tunnel engineers excavate bridges tunnel engineers excavate bridges tunnel engineers excavate tunnels that don't tell people what to tunnels that don't tell people what to tunnels that don't tell people what to do do do look Jonathan has to be done the survey look Jonathan has to be done the survey look Jonathan has to be done the survey committee says in order to maintain committee says in order to maintain committee says in order to maintain 50,000 people in city you have to have 50,000 people in city you have to have 50,000 people in city you have to have so much water so much food available so so much water so much food available so so much water so much food available so much air conditioning that's determined much air conditioning that's determined much air conditioning that's determined by the amount of people just like an by the amount of people just like an by the amount of people just like an ocean liner if you have a thousand pesos ocean liner if you have a thousand pesos ocean liner if you have a thousand pesos on a Shriner who decides how much food on a Shriner who decides how much food on a Shriner who decides how much food to carry the people that have worked on to carry the people that have worked on to carry the people that have worked on you shawanna then build those problems you shawanna then build those problems you shawanna then build those problems who decides how many doctors and who decides how many doctors and who decides how many doctors and dentists you need but the amount of dentists you need but the amount of dentists you need but the amount of people that complain about dental and people that complain about dental and people that complain about dental and medical problems I'd like that something medical problems I'd like that something medical problems I'd like that something sure go ahead the general idea behind sure go ahead the general idea behind sure go ahead the general idea behind people in charge in inverted Commerce is people in charge in inverted Commerce is people in charge in inverted Commerce is that people generally think that whoever that people generally think that whoever that people generally think that whoever holds the system the progress the holds the system the progress the holds the system the progress the algorithms and etc are in charge now if algorithms and etc are in charge now if algorithms and etc are in charge now if you actually look at a guy or a man or a you actually look at a guy or a man or a you actually look at a guy or a man or a woman or a man and woman living in the woman or a man and woman living in the woman or a man and woman living in the Forbes with no other resources but the Forbes with no other resources but the Forbes with no other resources but the forest they don't treat the forest or forest they don't treat the forest or forest they don't treat the forest or their system their internal systems the their system their internal systems the their system their internal systems the way they have been built in a way that way they have been built in a way that way they have been built in a way that could be sabotage by one another let's could be sabotage by one another let's could be sabotage by one another let's say demand for touching the sewer system say demand for touching the sewer system say demand for touching the sewer system because he's angry at the woman or the because he's angry at the woman or the because he's angry at the woman or the other way around once we reach in the other way around once we reach in the other way around once we reach in the resource-based economy we look after the resource-based economy we look after the resource-based economy we look after the system because the system looks after us system because the system looks after us system because the system looks after us yes that's true it'd be just like you yes that's true it'd be just like you yes that's true it'd be just like you got mad at something and you want to cut got mad at something and you want to cut got mad at something and you want to cut off your arm because you got mad Satan off your arm because you got mad Satan off your arm because you got mad Satan people don't do things like that you people don't do things like that you people don't do things like that you wouldn't want to hurt anything in the wouldn't want to hurt anything in the wouldn't want to hurt anything in the environment people are brought up under environment people are brought up under environment people are brought up under the Venus Project have a different the Venus Project have a different the Venus Project have a different outlook completely different than the outlook completely different than the outlook completely different than the people of today you're dealing with people of today you're dealing with people of today you're dealing with people with today's values if you want people with today's values if you want people with today's values if you want to be an aeronautical engineer you have to be an aeronautical engineer you have to be an aeronautical engineer you have to go to that environment if you want to to go to that environment if you want to to go to that environment if you want to be a doctor you have to go to a medical be a doctor you have to go to a medical be a doctor you have to go to a medical environment to become a doctor then you environment to become a doctor then you environment to become a doctor then you have to pass tests you have to immerse a have to pass tests you have to immerse a have to pass tests you have to immerse a person in an environment that deals with person in an environment that deals with person in an environment that deals with the subject they are assigned so you the subject they are assigned so you the subject they are assigned so you don't have a person who studies animal don't have a person who studies animal don't have a person who studies animal behavior behavior behavior become a dentist he has to be in a become a dentist he has to be in a become a dentist he has to be in a dental environment to become an tennis dental environment to become an tennis dental environment to become an tennis you have to know his dentistry we don't you have to know his dentistry we don't you have to know his dentistry we don't have that that's today you're talking have that that's today you're talking have that that's today you're talking about people that get angry that won't about people that get angry that won't about people that get angry that won't perform as well and would want to shoot perform as well and would want to shoot perform as well and would want to shoot people or damage the environment we do people or damage the environment we do people or damage the environment we do all that in the schools we clean out all all that in the schools we clean out all all that in the schools we clean out all the old letters that have no preference the old letters that have no preference the old letters that have no preference people learn to read books differently people learn to read books differently people learn to read books differently than they do today their behavior is than they do today their behavior is than they do today their behavior is different than it was in the past they different than it was in the past they different than it was in the past they don't respect people why they do today don't respect people why they do today don't respect people why they do today to respect your performance only if the to respect your performance only if the to respect your performance only if the monetary system would collapse how long monetary system would collapse how long monetary system would collapse how long would it take to get the resource-based would it take to get the resource-based would it take to get the resource-based economy fully working about three months economy fully working about three months economy fully working about three months function pictures and control the media function pictures and control the media function pictures and control the media have you don't control the television have you don't control the television have you don't control the television the newspapers the magazine's you can't the newspapers the magazine's you can't the newspapers the magazine's you can't do it with control of the media about do it with control of the media about do it with control of the media about three months how much of the centralized data would how much of the centralized data would be made available to the public anything be made available to the public anything be made available to the public anything they wanted to know I have a laptop and they wanted to know I have a laptop and they wanted to know I have a laptop and you can access any kind of information you can access any kind of information you can access any kind of information you want so is the distribution of data you want so is the distribution of data you want so is the distribution of data centralized or decentralized in a centralized or decentralized in a centralized or decentralized in a resource-based economy redundantly resource-based economy redundantly resource-based economy redundantly centralized like the internet centralized like the internet centralized like the internet redundantly centralized today washington redundantly centralized today washington redundantly centralized today washington doesn't know what's going on in Virginia doesn't know what's going on in Virginia doesn't know what's going on in Virginia or Florida in the future all information or Florida in the future all information or Florida in the future all information will be accessible and not verified not will be accessible and not verified not will be accessible and not verified not very ated to suit the mood of a person very ated to suit the mood of a person very ated to suit the mood of a person information will be available as the information will be available as the information will be available as the transportation what the agricultural transportation what the agricultural transportation what the agricultural yield is what the climate changes maybe yield is what the climate changes maybe yield is what the climate changes maybe all information will be available to all information will be available to all information will be available to everybody not any specialized group but everybody not any specialized group but everybody not any specialized group but not I don't think the average person not I don't think the average person not I don't think the average person would exercise the ability to find out would exercise the ability to find out would exercise the ability to find out where the aircraft landing is have been where the aircraft landing is have been where the aircraft landing is have been improved their only access information improved their only access information improved their only access information they are interested in remember the they are interested in remember the they are interested in remember the public doesn't concern itself with new public doesn't concern itself with new public doesn't concern itself with new techniques in agriculture agronomist techniques in agriculture agronomist techniques in agriculture agronomist consent resolves with that information consent resolves with that information consent resolves with that information will be available to those that have the will be available to those that have the will be available to those that have the knowledge to understand the information knowledge to understand the information knowledge to understand the information that requesting that requesting that requesting in the Venus Project what will people be in the Venus Project what will people be in the Venus Project what will people be responsible for they are assigned responsible for they are assigned responsible for they are assigned certain tests if they cannot function in certain tests if they cannot function in certain tests if they cannot function in that test they will immediately be that test they will immediately be that test they will immediately be replaced by people that can just like replaced by people that can just like replaced by people that can just like you do an industry today if you hire a you do an industry today if you hire a you do an industry today if you hire a band to design a bridge and he doesn't band to design a bridge and he doesn't band to design a bridge and he doesn't know how to design a bridge to get know how to design a bridge to get know how to design a bridge to get somebody they can it isn't any different somebody they can it isn't any different somebody they can it isn't any different than today if you are a person of design than today if you are a person of design than today if you are a person of design shoes that don't wear out he has to shoes that don't wear out he has to shoes that don't wear out he has to understand material sciences he has to understand material sciences he has to understand material sciences he has to understand what makes where why things understand what makes where why things understand what makes where why things wear out in other words he doesn't wear out in other words he doesn't wear out in other words he doesn't understand that they can't be assigned understand that they can't be assigned understand that they can't be assigned the test anyone that can carry out the test anyone that can carry out the test anyone that can carry out function will be assigned a task male or function will be assigned a task male or function will be assigned a task male or female no matter what race they are they female no matter what race they are they female no matter what race they are they will be given the assignment if they can will be given the assignment if they can will be given the assignment if they can carry it out carry it out carry it out I have a question here from the audience I have a question here from the audience I have a question here from the audience I believe I can answer it myself because I believe I can answer it myself because I believe I can answer it myself because I heard you give the answer once before I heard you give the answer once before I heard you give the answer once before he wants to know if we're going to use he wants to know if we're going to use he wants to know if we're going to use new names to the cities and I believe new names to the cities and I believe new names to the cities and I believe Jacques your answer was that it would be Jacques your answer was that it would be Jacques your answer was that it would be assigned based on the longitude and assigned based on the longitude and assigned based on the longitude and latitude of the city you said in the latitude of the city you said in the latitude of the city you said in the past that names such as Brazil or Sweden past that names such as Brazil or Sweden past that names such as Brazil or Sweden don't tell you anything about the don't tell you anything about the don't tell you anything about the certain location but if we give it a certain location but if we give it a certain location but if we give it a longitude and latitude designation that longitude and latitude designation that longitude and latitude designation that would clear up a lot of obscurities is would clear up a lot of obscurities is would clear up a lot of obscurities is that correct yes correct okay here we that correct yes correct okay here we that correct yes correct okay here we got another one Jacques are you afraid got another one Jacques are you afraid got another one Jacques are you afraid that the establishment will try to that the establishment will try to that the establishment will try to remove you for trying to abolish the remove you for trying to abolish the remove you for trying to abolish the support system because you are the support system because you are the support system because you are the engine of that machine right now they engine of that machine right now they engine of that machine right now they may do that and they have the power to may do that and they have the power to may do that and they have the power to do that and I have the power to do that and I have the power to do that and I have the power to eliminate me or put me in jail but they eliminate me or put me in jail but they eliminate me or put me in jail but they can't eliminate the ideas they would can't eliminate the ideas they would can't eliminate the ideas they would like to control the internet they would like to control the internet they would like to control the internet they would like to control all sources of like to control all sources of like to control all sources of information to keep people subject to information to keep people subject to information to keep people subject to their values that you gotta consider so their values that you gotta consider so their values that you gotta consider so they will delay wherever they can delay they will delay wherever they can delay they will delay wherever they can delay and control whatever they can control and control whatever they can control and control whatever they can control and eliminate what other people they and eliminate what other people they and eliminate what other people they feel as a threat but ultimately if we feel as a threat but ultimately if we feel as a threat but ultimately if we don't operate that way we cannot operate don't operate that way we cannot operate don't operate that way we cannot operate it all Jacques what do you think about it all Jacques what do you think about it all Jacques what do you think about peak oil whether it is useful to change peak oil whether it is useful to change peak oil whether it is useful to change the system think about energy new the system think about energy new the system think about energy new sources of energy that do not pollute sources of energy that do not pollute sources of energy that do not pollute the environment like geothermal wave the environment like geothermal wave the environment like geothermal wave power wind power temperature power wind power temperature power wind power temperature differentials all kinds of alternatives differentials all kinds of alternatives differentials all kinds of alternatives that don't run out that don't run out that don't run out geothermal has shown to have caused geothermal has shown to have caused geothermal has shown to have caused earthquakes in certain areas i don't earthquakes in certain areas i don't earthquakes in certain areas i don't know if it's a verified fact but i have know if it's a verified fact but i have know if it's a verified fact but i have heard of some situations but geothermal heard of some situations but geothermal heard of some situations but geothermal can cause cracking xand things like that can cause cracking xand things like that can cause cracking xand things like that in the Earth's surface so how do we deal in the Earth's surface so how do we deal in the Earth's surface so how do we deal with such a problem and if geothermal is with such a problem and if geothermal is with such a problem and if geothermal is not the only salute I mean there are not the only salute I mean there are not the only salute I mean there are other solutions for energy production other solutions for energy production other solutions for energy production but then what's the solution for but then what's the solution for but then what's the solution for geothermal is not the problem the use of geothermal is not the problem the use of geothermal is not the problem the use of energy by a nation will also have a energy by a nation will also have a energy by a nation will also have a group that works on a negative and group that works on a negative and group that works on a negative and positive effects of different energy positive effects of different energy positive effects of different energy systems and the one we select will be systems and the one we select will be systems and the one we select will be based on the one that has the least based on the one that has the least based on the one that has the least negative effects the survey can and he negative effects the survey can and he negative effects the survey can and he tells us that they do a survey on the tells us that they do a survey on the tells us that they do a survey on the benefits of any project and the negative benefits of any project and the negative benefits of any project and the negative effect was the same project there since effect was the same project there since effect was the same project there since there are no vested interest that means there are no vested interest that means there are no vested interest that means people don't own the oil fields there's people don't own the oil fields there's people don't own the oil fields there's no tendency to perpetuate any particular no tendency to perpetuate any particular no tendency to perpetuate any particular energy system since there's no profit to energy system since there's no profit to energy system since there's no profit to be made the last question this person be made the last question this person be made the last question this person was a little bit confused about how you was a little bit confused about how you was a little bit confused about how you spotted to housing so he wants to know spotted to housing so he wants to know spotted to housing so he wants to know if the assignment of houses apartments if the assignment of houses apartments if the assignment of houses apartments is given in relation to the task given is given in relation to the task given is given in relation to the task given to someone and if everyone needs a house to someone and if everyone needs a house to someone and if everyone needs a house or an apartment then everybody must have or an apartment then everybody must have or an apartment then everybody must have a task assigned to him or her regardless a task assigned to him or her regardless a task assigned to him or her regardless of the motives incentives what if of the motives incentives what if of the motives incentives what if someone still doesn't want to perform someone still doesn't want to perform someone still doesn't want to perform any task at all how does the Venus any task at all how does the Venus any task at all how does the Venus Project deal with system I guess how Project deal with system I guess how Project deal with system I guess how does the Venus Project determine where does the Venus Project determine where does the Venus Project determine where this person can or cannot live in the this person can or cannot live in the this person can or cannot live in the beginning when we have the first city beginning when we have the first city beginning when we have the first city done we can't afford to take on people done we can't afford to take on people done we can't afford to take on people who just can't participate that we who just can't participate that we who just can't participate that we hopefully will develop enough energy to hopefully will develop enough energy to hopefully will develop enough energy to take on later but we see the first city take on later but we see the first city take on later but we see the first city as the planners the developers people as the planners the developers people as the planners the developers people who will make media who will help who will make media who will help who will make media who will help introduce the introduce the introduce the direction and all many different ways direction and all many different ways direction and all many different ways the planners who will be making the next the planners who will be making the next the planners who will be making the next city more efficient the first city we city more efficient the first city we city more efficient the first city we might have to build a lot with what we might have to build a lot with what we might have to build a lot with what we have instead of innovating new ideas have instead of innovating new ideas have instead of innovating new ideas because that might take longer so if because that might take longer so if because that might take longer so if people can a function to do that we with people can a function to do that we with people can a function to do that we with the first city I'm sure would not have the first city I'm sure would not have the first city I'm sure would not have enough energy to take on people who enough energy to take on people who enough energy to take on people who cannot participate in help it's pretty cannot participate in help it's pretty cannot participate in help it's pretty question probably about burger people question probably about burger people question probably about burger people leave in certain place not just just as leave in certain place not just just as leave in certain place not just just as timing of it but live in a certain place timing of it but live in a certain place timing of it but live in a certain place they call home as far as I understand they call home as far as I understand they call home as far as I understand we're not going to have attachment to we're not going to have attachment to we're not going to have attachment to the particular place we're not going to the particular place we're not going to the particular place we're not going to you're not going to choose that house you're not going to choose that house you're not going to choose that house skull big it is or a neighborhood and skull big it is or a neighborhood and skull big it is or a neighborhood and stuff like that we're going to find a stuff like that we're going to find a stuff like that we're going to find a way to participate in the task we would way to participate in the task we would way to participate in the task we would better suit and define the place we can better suit and define the place we can better suit and define the place we can live nearby and we can actually is which live nearby and we can actually is which live nearby and we can actually is which can actually feed all our needs to can actually feed all our needs to can actually feed all our needs to advances in life and helps to advances in life and helps to advances in life and helps to participate in a certain task all that participate in a certain task all that participate in a certain task all that would be assigned no catch yes that's would be assigned no catch yes that's would be assigned no catch yes that's correct and all the homes would be very correct and all the homes would be very correct and all the homes would be very comfortable and very sufficient for comfortable and very sufficient for comfortable and very sufficient for whatever people's needs are ok so that's whatever people's needs are ok so that's whatever people's needs are ok so that's the last two questions is there anything the last two questions is there anything the last two questions is there anything that you'd like to say to the audience that you'd like to say to the audience that you'd like to say to the audience look up the Venus Project there's a lot look up the Venus Project there's a lot look up the Venus Project there's a lot of answers on it Venus Project calm on of answers on it Venus Project calm on of answers on it Venus Project calm on the website I think most of the people the website I think most of the people the website I think most of the people have seen the website here I assume yeah have seen the website here I assume yeah have seen the website here I assume yeah I guess that's about it for now just I guess that's about it for now just I guess that's about it for now just thank you all for attending and will thank you all for attending and will thank you all for attending and will play the second half of that mechanistic play the second half of that mechanistic play the second half of that mechanistic point of view next week thanks again point of view next week thanks again point of view next week thanks again Thank You jacque and roxanne and we'll Thank You jacque and roxanne and we'll Thank You jacque and roxanne and we'll see you next week jun 10 2012 see you next week jun 10 2012 see you next week jun 10 2012 thank you for sharing your doors with us

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Duration: 1 hour, 12 minutes and 19 seconds
Year: 2012
Country: United States
Language: English
Producer: The Venus Project
Director: The Venus Project
Views: 6
Posted by: ltiofficial on Feb 19, 2016

TVP Teamspeak Q&A Seminar - Mechanistic Concept (part 1) - 2012-06-03

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