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Leonardo da Vinci was a self-taught renaissance man.

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As a scientist, artist and inventor

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da Vinci's genius led to an unprecedented body of work.

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The drawings he left behind remain as testaments

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to his innovation and originality.

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One of da Vinci's main inhibitions was the lack of materials

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he needed to transform his concepts into reality.

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Jacque Fresco is also a self-taught scientist, architect and inventor.

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For his entire life he has been deeply committed to investigation

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insight and innovation.

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A prolific creator and builder

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Jacque has been redesigning our entire culture for most of his life.

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While da Vinci needed advanced materials

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Fresco has lacked access to the social and political resources needed

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to realize his most far-reaching ideas.

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AUGUST, 1974

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My guest is an extraordinary Miamian, Dr. Jacque Fresco.

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I could go through all the things that Dr. Fresco has done.

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He's a social engineer, industrial engineer, designer, inventor

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was a consultant for Rotorcraft Helicopter

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director of Scientific Research Laboratories, Los Angeles

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designed and copyrighted various items

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ranging from drafting instruments to X-ray units

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has had works published in Architectural Records

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Popular Mechanics, Saturday Review and has been

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a technical and psychological consultant of the motion picture industry

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member of the air force design development unit at Wright Field

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developed the electrostatic anti-icing systems

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designed prefabricated aluminum houses.

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What does it say in your driver's license?

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What is the occupation? - Industrial Designer

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- Jacque, do you -social engineer -

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- Does it bug you that people

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when they talk about Jacque Fresco in Miami, say that

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he's someone who's too far ahead of this time? His thinking, is....

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We're not ready for advanced kind of thinking. Not that type.

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Does it bug you? - I imagine every creative person in every field

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encounters that sort of problem. No, it doesn't. I can't afford it.

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There's too many things that are important.

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Jacque Fresco is a futurist.

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A futurist is someone for whom all thoughts and actions

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are based upon what tomorrow could be.

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He has been planning for the future since the 1920s.

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Not only is he a philosopher and theorist

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but an engineer, industrial designer and social planner.

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As a multi-disciplinarian, he has studied everything from theology

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to behaviorism and from biology to the material sciences.

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Jacque Fresco, doesn't want to just talk about

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what today will be like, tomorrow.

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He has a plan to build an entire new world from the ground up.

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(Gazecki) I'd like to go from

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the time you first started conceiving of drawings.

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- Started drawing? Well, that's very early.

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Eight, nine... eight or nine years old.

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- About the future? - Yes.

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I was always interested in the future as far back as I can remember.

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There was a motion picture called Metropolis.

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It was different; it took my attention.

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It was the first out-of-the-box type movie.

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It depicted the future as a regimented system

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which was totally unacceptable

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but the architecture was interesting and the robotics

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in that film were interesting.

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I drew airplanes and cities of the future

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underwater cities, floating cities

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and skyscrapers with landing platforms on them.

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I drew my idea of what a post office ought to be.

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Since the airport was so far from the post office

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they had a truck deliver that, I figured, here's these long post offices

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but why couldn't we land on top, pick up the mail directly and fly onward?

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So, I would draw landing platforms on the rooftops of the buildings

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slightly angular, so the airplane didn't have trouble landing.

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It couldn't be as long, but It'd be slowed up by the incline

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but then on take off they would go in reverse.

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Then I tried ships, drawings of passenger/freighter ships

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then aircraft carriers.

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And I showed it to my principal

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and he said "Have you ever heard of Bucky Fuller?"

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I said "No." So, he said "Would you like to meet him?"

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I said "Yeah, sure. Is he... what is he?"

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He says "He's an inventor like you.

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He thinks up a lot of new things."

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But Mr. Fuller was one of the 20th century's most renown futurists.

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Known primarily as the inventor of the Geodesic dome

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Fuller was a proponent of using technology with a humanistic approach.

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(Fresco) And there was Bucky Fuller.

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He was seated there with his car called the Dymaxium.

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And I said "What does that mean?" And he says "It is the highest form

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that can be attained in shape".

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I talked to him about social things. I said

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"What about changing society to some other form

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whereby all people can benefit from the works of industry?"

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He said "What do you mean?" I said "Well

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"if instead of working people going out on strike

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give them a piece of the action.

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And so if business improved they all got automatic pay.

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If it went down, they got less pay."

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So, he sat back and he said:

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"What are you, some kind of social planner?

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Is that what you want to be?" I said "I don't know what the name is

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but I think that would work. It would give people more incentive."

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He says "Let me tell you something. It's tough enough

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just getting a new automobile out there.

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If you're trying to change society..."

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This was years before he even lectured on things.

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(Gazecki) Albert Einstein once said

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"The problems we have cannot be solved

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at the same level of thinking with which we created them."

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- Did you meet Einstein, Albert Einstein? - Yes.

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- Where did you get the idea to meet Albert Einstein?

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- I was outside a theater called Radio City

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and I saw a woman come out with gray hair sticking up.

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I said "It looks like Einstein's sister" to my friends!

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And then Einstein came out. And I think it was his sister.

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I was just kidding about that.

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And I walked over and I said "Is it possible to meet with you?"

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He said "Why?" I said "I have thousands of questions I want to ask."

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But, he says, uhm "I live in Princeton, New Jersey."

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- So tell me about the day you went and met him.

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- Well, I went to his home. And it was modest.

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I said that there seems to be harmony in nature.

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"How do you feel about that?"

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He says "Yes, the universe is lawful, but

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'harmony', I don't know what you mean by that."

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I said "Well when a rat eats insects

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it may be supporting the rat system but what about the insect system?"

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What he did is he used some water from the backyard swamp water

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and he put it under a microscope and he said "Look

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everything is fighting everything else.

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In the human body, everything is fighting everything else.

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In the ocean, big fish eat little fish".

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I didn't really have enough time to sit there with Einstein

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and go through all kinds of things

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because he didn't seem to be in that area.

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He did (imitating Einstein) "Are you interested in mathematics?"

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(still mocking) Mathematics... are you interested...

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"What boolean geometry means to you?" You know.

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I didn't wanted to get off into that

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because, to me, that would be a sidetrack.

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Mathematics is a tool, just like sociology and anthropology.

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These are all instruments to go into making up the future.

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(Gazecki) When the stock market crashed in 1929, Jacque was only 13 years old.

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Coming of age during in The Great Depression prompted many questions

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for the curious and inquisitive young man.

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Living in New York City, he found the squalor

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and suffering around him difficult to understand.

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The confusion, contradictions and struggles he saw

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left a significant impact on his character.

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(Fresco) Things were so bad that I had no way of looking at it;

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and I thought the rules of the game were somehow screwed up.

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I went to many different meetings: communist meetings

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socialist meetings, fascist meetings

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Mankind United, technocracy

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to see what the world was teaching, including Eastern philosophy.

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And I wanted to know what people thought, what they wanted

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why they gelled on one system.

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And that each time a society arrived at a system

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they tend to keep that system. They didn't even try to go beyond that

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but in technology, whenever we made anything, we try to surpass it.

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The history of civilization, to me then, was the history of change

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social change, human arrangements

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homes, boats, planes, trains;

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all of them were in the process of social evolution

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including our language, our outlook, our values, our behavior.

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(Gazecki) As the Depression wore on, Jacque left New York

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and started hitchhiking around the country.

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In his travels he met many interesting and different people

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most of whom were like himself searching for a way of life

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that was fair and equitable.

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Eventually, he ended up traveling to the warm waters

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and primitive islands of Tahiti.

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(Fresco) I wanted to go to the south seas because I liked the idea

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of the natives sharing things; I've read about that.

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Now, the chief, if he had six wives, and you were strange

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he said "Here's my best wife. Maybe she will please you?"

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They felt their wives gave them so much joy;

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perhaps they'd give a visitor some joy.

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Their thinking about it was different. And that upset...

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It caused me to ponder "gee, that's not the way I saw things.

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Was that the way I saw things, or was that the way I was indoctrinated?"

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That's when I began to ask those questions.

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How do you know that anything you like makes sense, Jacque?

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What about your own values? Think about them; maybe they are senseless.

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(Gazecki) Concerned that Tahiti would be invaded, Jacque returned to the US

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and joined the army air corps.

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When the war was over thousands of factories stood idle.

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Their manufacturing capacity no longer needed for wartime production.

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Capitalizing on the tremendous capacity available for aluminum fabrication

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Jacque designed and built a house made entirely from aluminum extrusions.

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The result was an innovative and extremely efficient use

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of time and materials.

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(Fresco)The windows, for example, were put in and then

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extrusions snapped in and sit with a seal.

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And so it was very rapid. It took something like twelve minutes

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to put up all the windows.

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Eight hours to put up the building.

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1948, it was unveiled at Warner Bros

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and there were lines all around the studio.

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Thousands of people had come to see it. And airplanes...

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smoke... written in through the sky.

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"Visit The Trend Home at Warner Bros. Studio."

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It was publicized in newspapers. I think the Architectural Record...

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as one of the first mass-produced type homes.

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(Gazecki) Jacque appreciated the challenges of innovative problem solving.

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As he honed his skills he became a competent inventor.

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He always had a research lab and was constantly inventing new products.

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While much of his time was spent pursuing his own interests

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he was also hired by entrepreneurs to design and fabricate

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specific inventions, working in a very broad array of technologies.

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He invented everything from medical and dental devices

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to 3D motion picture projection systems.

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(Fresco) A guy named Jack Moss was a film producer at the time.

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I met him at Warner Bros. Studios. He came to see the Trend Home.

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And he was awed by everything fitting together so sensibly.

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And he said "How do you guys think of these things?"

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So, I began to describe how I thought about things

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then he found me interesting. And he said

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"Come on out to the house." And he had a big estate.

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And he said "Do you think you can make a movie projector

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that projects 3D images without glasses?"

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So I said, "Yes." He said, "How do you know you can do it?

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You've never done it." And I said "That's right."

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But if it's a physical phenomenon I think I can work it out."

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"How are you gonna' do it?" I said "I don't know yet."

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What I did is, I had many different applications

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which I'd rather not describe in detail.

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But I got 3D imaging different ways.

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And the simplest way was projecting the right and left eye image

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from behind the screen at the right eye and the left eye.

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If you moved over to the side you lost your image.

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And Jack wanted Technicolor to go the rest of the way.

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He got them to come out and look at it.

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"How do you do that? It's very interesting."

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I said "We're not at liberty to disclose that

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unless you back the next stage".

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So they said "Well, how do you maintain visual isolation?"

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I said "I still can't discuss that with you."

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They looked at it and it was super clear, no lines.

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They said "That's the best I've seen up to now, but

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it fades at thirty degrees." I said" -Yes, it does."

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"And, at a distance it fades, too, as you move back."

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They said "Can you do anything about that?" I said "Yes.

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That's why you're here to take it to the next stage."

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So, they said, "Look, Jacque, you get rid of the fade

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and you get rid of the distance problem. Then call us."

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That died... like the Trend Home died.

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Then I read in the books on inventions how Alexander Graham Bell

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had to make the telephone before they backed it.

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The Xerox machine had to be made, completely.

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Edison had to make the electric lamp. Nobody backed him

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on the way up...until after he was known.

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(Gazecki) What are these for? What were these all about?

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These are surgical instruments, aren't they?

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- Yes, various types, but those are only some of them.

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You know what a retractor is? - No

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- It holds the skin open while you're operating.

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These are various types of retractors.

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The purpose of that was to rotate

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the bone so it's in line before you put the prosthesis in.

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It rotates the femur, the upper region of the femur.

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Those are tweezers with holes in them...

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If look at the holes in the front... to put the sutures through to guide you

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through the muscle. You put it over the muscle and the holes

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are right through the middle of the muscle. You didn't have to eyeball it.

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- So these are things that you designed...- Long time ago.

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- Under contract? - Oh, yeah. - You contracted to design these things?

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- Yes. I did thousands of different things.

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But this doctor took the patents out in his name.

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But that's all right. I didn't know what was out there.

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I didn't know what I wanted to be.

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Since I looked at all things and tried to change all things.

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Wheelchairs, everything. Make them better... you know.

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I found it easy to invent.

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But, then, inventions cost money and I didn't have money for patents.

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I used to make thousands of different inventions

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and just filed them away, because I had no money.

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I used to spend my savings, whatever I earned

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on what equipment that I needed.

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And if I was working on an artificial leg

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and I was $200 behind,

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I would take my last $200 and work on that.

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I'd solve that problem, but then the rent would be due

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and the electric bills. I couldn't pay them.

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The auctioneers would be sent in to auction off everything in my lab.

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I had to sit back...I couldn't adjust

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to say "Well, I got $25 for rent

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$200 for this, for a machine..."

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I couldn't do that, because I was very near the answers

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and the type of problems I worked on were outside

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of the frame of reference of most science.

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In the fluorescent tube you have high voltage moving along

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and you have a transformer that generates it

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and you put a phosphor material that glows.

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But the tube is round and the phosphor on that back side does nothing.

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It's only the phosphor on the front side.

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I want to extrude the tube, so it's elliptical.

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You have more light surface in an elliptical tube.

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Then I wanted to mirror back, the back of the tube.

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Instead of putting a big reflector outside there

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put the mirror inside the tube.

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I didn't have the money to make that tube.

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Then I said "What a hell you are making a tube for?"

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Why don't you work on a flat sheet of glass that phosphors, that glows?

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Make glass that's electrically conductive.

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Well, how do you make a non-conductive electrically conductive?

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By putting metallic particles in the glass and phosphors. What would happen?

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The electric current would flow through the glass and animate the phosphors.

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You had a flat sheet. You don't want a lamp.

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A lamp is only giving light on one side.

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I wanted the whole surface to glow.

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(Gazecki) Over time, Jacque's ideas about the future

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became more well-organized and focused.

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Gradually, he began to combine his technological expertise

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with what he had learned about human behavior

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sociology and social structure.

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(Fresco) I spent so many years improving area by area, I said "Look,

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the whole society is aberrated the way we do things.

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Why not redesign society?

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It'd be easier than making all these thousands of products--

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(Gazecki) You really decided to re-design the culture...

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-Because I couldn't get...

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patchwork didn't work. It wasn't sufficient.

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They thought I was a communist.

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After all, the guy wanted to redesign society. What else?

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"The Larry King Show" - August,1974

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(Larry King) What is a socio-cybernering?

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- Socio-cybernering is a new organization

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and it represents the application of the most sofisticated forms

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of science and technology toward problem solving

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so that we can reclaim the environment

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which we loused up over the years;

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and to build a way of life worthy of man, to humanize society

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to break away from the artificiality, the regimentation

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that dominates our society today.

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Our society seems torn apart and pulled in many directions.

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Socio-cyberneering is an approach

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at the restructuring of society in humanistic terms.

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- Humanistic terms, yes.

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(Gazecki) The mission of socio-cyberneering was to build

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a residential research center, developing

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and demonstrating new technologies and innovative social concepts

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within a community setting.

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On a barren scrap of land in central Florida

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Jacque and a few friends began to build what is now known as

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The Venus Project, named after the tiny nearby village of Venus, Florida.

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Occupying some 25 acres, 10 buildings have been constructed.

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Each utilizes both design, construction and lifestyle concepts

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integral to developing a working model of harmony and high productivity

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integrating both nature and advanced technology.

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Jacque's objective of conducting a complete reassessment and redesign

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of our entire culture remains the central focus of his work.

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With The Venus Project he has created an environment

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conducive to creativity and innovation.

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(R. Meadows) When people come here they're amazed to hear

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that this was just a flat tomato patch.

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We've dug out streams and ponds

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and planted hundreds of palm trees and trees

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We built this land to show what the outskirts of the city would be like.

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We have many buildings here, but you can't see one building when you're in another.

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We really wanted to show how high-tech and nature

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could coexist within this environment.

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(Gazecki) Jacque and Roxanne have been living on the property

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and building The Venus Project since the late 1970s.

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The entire time has been a constant process of developing

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and implementing new ideas.

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Jacque begins with a drawing, then produces a scale model

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and then videotapes his models in order to demonstrate

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his concepts for the future.

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Although Venus, Florida is relatively isolated

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visitors often make the journey to see The Venus Project

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and to meet Jacque.

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-Joan. - I'm Margaret. - Hi, Margaret.

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I'm not going to remember your names, but...

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I'm Jacque. Hi, how are you? Good to see you. How are you?

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Have a seat, and then we'll go on with what this is about.

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Is everybody here?

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So, there was a time when most people believe

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that the decisions of the majority

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were very close to reality.

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But there was also a time when the majority of people

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believed the Earth was flat.

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And if you asked them whether they were sincere, they said "Of course!

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You can see it's flat!" So, they break a sincerity meter.

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But it isn't sincerity that the world needs.

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It needs the intelligent management of the Earth's resources.

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It's what we don't have. The major contribution...

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The Future by Design would like to provide is

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a method of coping with problems.

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Now, you're brought up to believe, I believe this

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that everyone should have a right to their own opinion.

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Isn't that the way you were brought up? - Yes, sir. - Okay.

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When you got everybody going around and giving their opinion

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"I'll tell you what's wrong with Jim!" They've got all kinds of opinions.

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But when engineers talk to each other they don't say "Believe me."

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They say "See this new metal?

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It can hold up 4,000 pounds per square inch."

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He puts it in a machine and pulls it apart and he says "You're right!"

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I would say that the majority of the people of the world today are unsane.

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Not insane, unsane meaning:

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having been exposed to methods of evaluation

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that are long rendered obsolete.

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Our language in the future will change to a saner language

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where we have no argument in it.

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I said "Can there be such a language?" There is!

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When engineers talk to each other it's not subject to interpretation.

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They use math; they use descriptive systems.

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If I interpreted what another engineer said in the way I think he meant it

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you couldn't build bridges. You couldn't build dams

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or power transmission lines.

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The language has to have meaning.

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That's why when a doctor writes a prescription, if he prints it.

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It's the same all over the world.

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The world I'm talking about is different.

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(Meadows) There aren't too many people that have seen everything

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that he's gone through in the past

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and come out of it with a certain direction.

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And the interesting thing is, too, is that he's not a philosopher

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that talks about how the world should be. His point of view.

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He's a technician that understands how it can be built

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and has worked with people and understands what it takes to change them

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and understands what it was that made them that way.

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So it's really based on hands-on learning

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and not reading something in a book.

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He went through the experiences himself

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and came out with the conclusions he did

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because it was based on actually learning-experience

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and experiments.

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(Fresco) When an engineer has an idea he talks to the computer about his idea.

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While they're talking about it the integrated computerized system

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will take the elements that they're speaking about

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convert the language into imagery

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and the image will turn

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and be exposed to all of the people watching

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at the exhibit and presentation.

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They will question the presentation

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but the image system will answer the questions

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how the buildings are fabricated, how water is supplied

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how it handles earthquakes, or any other question.

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Instead of people sitting around asking individual questions

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the answers are demonstrated inside

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of what appears to be a transparent dome.

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Ideas are not just verbal, because when you talk verbally

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it does not deliver enough information to people.

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A more comprehensive system of communication

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is 3-dimensional imaging always

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showing people what you've got in mind

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not what they think you've got in mind.

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- Designed with a holographic computer and built from prefabricated materials

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the home of the future will be far more than just a residence.

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It will be an element of lifestyle

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and will facilitate learning, inspiration and communication.

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(Fresco) One of the most interesting aspects of tomorrow's civilization

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will be the fact that if you knew anyone fairly well

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and went to visit them in a period of time of just a few years

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their houses will change, because the people living in them change.

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Their needs and dimension of knowledge grows considerably

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and so will the environment that they live in. There's no such thing

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as a fixed home that a person lives in all their lives.

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It changes with their values, with their outlook

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with their acquired knowledge.

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- You had said one thing about how the buildings

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were designed according to function. -Yes

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- The curvature, and the materials, and the... -Yes

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I compare it to natural physiology

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an animal's shape is not designed from the outside in;

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It evolves from the inside out.

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Whatever you request, the exterior will express

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a cover over the shape that you'd prefer to live in.

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Some of the buildings that are dome-shaped

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can be laid like eggs continuously

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by a machine that carries a dome shape.

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And in that dome the exterior

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and the interior fabricate at the same time.

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Not everyone will choose to live in a dome.

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They will choose to live in whatever architectural shape

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would meet their needs.

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The reason why we suggest a dome

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is it uses the minimum amount of materials and

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covers the maximum areas and offers maximum strength.

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The dome shape is included in almost all of nature.

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Your brain is in a dome. The cranial case is in a dome.

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When a person says "Yeah, I don't think I'd want to live in a dome";

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you've been living in a dome most of your life.

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The interior of the building will have no source of light.

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You won't be able to see a lamp or source of light.

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All the walls would have even illumination.

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You can also specify the color of the illumination.

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Either, the entire inner surface or local areas

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of different color; if this is your request.

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This will be the simplest type of bathroom

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shower, sink, toilet bowl, molded into one system.

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Actually, there's no hardware on here.

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but there's a slot and the water comes out as a ribbon

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and that'll cut the soap off the hand

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and use about 1/6th the amount of water.

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Now, the waste water from the sink

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goes down into a pipe around here and fills the water closet

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and we flush the john with that water.

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Instead of telling people to save water, build a system in.

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This is what it's all about, if you wish to conserve water.

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The bathrooms may vary from that simple style

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to slightly more complex, but all one piece.

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There may be as many as fifty variations on a bathroom.

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You pick what you want and then it's installed.

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When you leave the building, the entire building is clean.

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We also have a slight increase in air pressure in the building;

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so no dust comes in your house from the outside.

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If there's any contaminants in the air

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it increases the electrostatic charge, which removes contaminants.

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It would be a smart house, because the house has its own nervous system.

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This is what I'm saying.

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In the future houses will have many sensory devices

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to detect fire, toxic materials

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anything that may threaten the life of a human being.

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If you walked into the house of the future

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you might say "Can I use your phone?"

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I'd say "Well, what's a phone?"

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You'd just say "I'd like to talk to Sam in Arabia".

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"What part of Arabia?" You just announce what you want

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and the sound would be focused and at some point

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you are standing, right at your ear. So, you can hear Sam in Arabia.

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In southern Florida, millions of dollars

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in buildings were destroyed by the big hurricane there

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and they'd put up buildings that look just about the same.

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If you don't want hurricane damage...

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an inverted cone...it's almost impossible

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for a whirlwind to pick up an inverted cone.

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We would have these shelters built

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in the West Indies or wherever hurricanes occur.

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Inside would be pull-down bedding

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food storage and emergency water.

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This is the kind of form that no vortex or wind can pick up.

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Try to pick this up with greasy fingers

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and that's similar to the wind whirling around it.

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(Gazecki) For apartment buildings and other large structures

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Jacque has devised a cybernated construction system.

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Computer-controlled robots will handle 90%

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of the movement and placement of prefabricated components.

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Special advanced materials are to be developed

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eliminating waste and minimizing the need for manual labor.

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Guided by satellite and using a sophisticated form

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of artificial intelligence, the buildings will construct themselves;

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a technique Jacque has named "self-erecting structures".

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This represents a relatively complex aluminum extrusion.

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If you were to take a toothpaste tube

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cut the letter "T" in the opening and squeeze the toothpaste

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it would come out like the letter "T";

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and this is how extrusions are made.

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However, in the future it may be possible

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to extrude complete apartment houses

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apartment building units or modules.

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This extruder can be faced with different dies

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to mold different shapes.

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Almost an infinite variety of shapes can be extruded.

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So, it would be the apartment of your preference that's extruded.

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So, any shape, or almost any extruded shape

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can be designed to fit many different architectural arrangements.

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This is a transitional type structure

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which utilizes cranes to lift the components of the building.

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Eventually, the building itself will be part

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of the self-erecting structure.

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Don't forget all the models that I do are only transitional.

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They don't represent the best that man can turn out

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because no one knows what the future will bring.

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There's just so many variables that can alter things.

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So the models that I make are all transitional.

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And many of them are only conceptual; they're not necessarily

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what the future might look like.

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Let's say they're extrapolations

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of taking the present and extrapolating forward.

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But we can't go too far forward

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because we don't know what new things will come into being.

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This looks like a train station.

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We hope to phase out the airplane by designing

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transportation units that can move up to 2000 miles an hour

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floating on a magnetic repulsive field or an air cushion.

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In those huge trains of tomorrow there'll be television

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radio, amusement, art centers, classrooms;

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not a group of seats lined up as your trains are today.

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If forty or fifty people have to leave the train

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we slow up to a hundred miles an hour

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lift off the passenger section or slide it off

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and slide on a section with the passengers getting on.

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You don't have to stop the whole plane, or the train.

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In the future we will just shove off those passengers

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getting off and that freight leaving.

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This is part of the linear acceleration train

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that can take you anywhere in the world in just a few hours;

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safely, without snow, rain, being lost at sea...

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A monorail is one of the methods of transportation.

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Some of them can be suspended by magnetic levitation.

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Others can use wheels and ride the rails.

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This is an aerial perspective of a monorail station

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with entrance and exits on the side of the highway.

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This is actually a true monorail

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because it is one rail system that supports two trains.

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Most monorails aren't really monorail; they consist of two tracks.

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This is accomplished on one track.

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The vehicles of the future will be highly aerodynamic in shape.

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Their shape will permit the minimum amount of skin resistance

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giving you the maximum distance for minimum fuel consumption.

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The front end of the car will be equipped with radar or sonar

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or other sensory devices that can detect the distance

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you are from other vehicles and maintain that separation automatically.

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In other words, on a highway or anywhere where two cars

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might hit each other, the electronic sensors

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would sense the distance automatically

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and keep the cars from side-swiping or making contact at all.

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Even if they did and then pinched a slight dent in the car

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the car would be made up of the memory materials;

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shape-memory alloys that go back

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to their original shape even when dented.

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I'm going to take this metal called nitinol.

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This wire, or spring, is wound around a mandrel and

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heated to a specific temperature and held until it cools.

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Then, when you pull it out beyond its elastic limit

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so it's not about to return to the spring shape

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and then you form it in many different ways.

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If it's heated... I'll put it on this form

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so it won't drift away

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and I'm going to heat that metal

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you can watch it return to its original shape.

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It's called "shape-memory alloys".

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It could be done in plastics, metals

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or any other materials in the future.

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Watch how it returns.

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Even if there's an area of the car we removed

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they can be rebuilt, in other words, automatically

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by the car having a memory system of its configuration

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just, like the human body, just like, perhaps

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in lizards and salamanders and certain types of organisms today

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can regenerate parts of their body.

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The technology of the future will enable our automotive vehicles

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to repair and regenerate damaged areas.

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This is a transport unit, or air-suspended unit.

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It will travel five or four feet above the ground

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and not requiring highways or bridges.

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You can turn around by electrodynamic means

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discharging air from the right or the left side

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not by tunneled air paths, but just by attracting or repelling air.

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I did this about 65 years ago.

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This is what an automobile will look like in the future.

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It'll have sensors on it. So, if I got mad at you

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and, when I get within a certain distance, the breaks go on.

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If I'm backing up and there's a child crossing, the car stops.

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No one drowns in a swimming pool, because a net comes up

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when you're not home. Is that clear?

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If somebody falls in the pool and you're busy cooking...

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the child sinks to the bottom, a tight net comes up right away.

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What do you want? What kind of world do you want?

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What you see here is just glimpses of the future.

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So, we'll go and look the place over so you've got a better idea.

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That area over there, across the water

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we will build a very large dome like a center for dialogue

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to invite different people out here.

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This is a freighter with separate sections.

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This freighter can deliver this to the Philippines

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drop this off in Hawaii... And so

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when all of the freight bays are released

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they are propelled automatically to the loading docks.

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And then the forward portion of the ship and the rear portion

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which is the propulsion unit, are joined together.

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So you always travel at a balanced load;

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you never travel with an empty hull back.

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Using energy that way conserves millions of gallons of fuel

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if you use fuel in a conventional sense.

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This is a possible propulsion method. In this instance

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water is drawn toward the surface of the ship electrodynamically.

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And, in turn, the ship's reaction is forward

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away from the pressure toward the rear.

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It's like holding a peach pit, and squeezing it, and it moves forward.

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It has far less wake

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less water turbulence

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and very little energy consumed.

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What you see here is an illustration

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of underwater transportation for the future.

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At the very leading edge air bubbles will be emitted

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very rapidly in front of the unit

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and that will cut down the resistance considerably.

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If you were to release thousands of air bubbles

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underneath the ship, it would sink

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because the water is less buoyant with the air bubbles in it.

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The air bubbles will be a system in the future

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for reducing the forward resistance.

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Transporting things underwater is much more economical

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and offers much less resistance.

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When traveling on the surface, you're confronted

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with waves and wave motion.

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Underwater you don't have that problem at all.

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We talk about civilization as though it's a static state.

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There are no civilized people yet.

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It's a process that's constantly going on.

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We're not civilized. It's an ongoing process;

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and so we never become fully civilized.

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We'd have to know quite a bit in order to behave

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in the most constructive manner.

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And that goes for intelligence.

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I don't know if I've talked to you about an electrical engineer

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of 75 years ago, an intelligent one, couldn't get a job today.

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When you're talking about intelligence, what are you talking about?

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It's an ongoing process.

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That's why there's no such thing as an intelligent person.

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There are people that are fairly well-informed in area A and B

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not informed in area C.

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When you go on with a word like civilization

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it sounds like something that was attained.

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As long as you have war, police, prisons, crime

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you're in the early stages of civilization;

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what they call civilization.

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This type of helicopter, or aircraft

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would have its propulsion unit at the tip of the blades.

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They'd be relatively small, high thrust.

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The center of the disc, or the passenger compartment

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would remain stationary while the blades spun around.

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In the event of engine failure

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the blades can automatically gyrate and bring the craft down

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not only vertically but can travel forward by tilting.

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You will notice that there are no ailerons or elevators on this plane.

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It's operated in a different manner, also by ion propulsion.

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Electron discharge is much lighter, much cheaper, much safer

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much faster and less energy consumed.

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In the future, by controlling the airflow

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over wings and the direction of it

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the need for a rudder will be rendered obsolete.

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For individual transportation of small groups

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you have the vertical landing and take-off

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VTOL aircraft of the future. They are called "lift fuselage".

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The body itself generates the lift

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for this type of aircraft. It is propelled electronically

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meaning particles are electrified and discharged

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from the rear of the craft; which propel the craft forward.

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For hovering, we then eject the same propellant downward

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and generate a ring vortex, a whirling vortex beneath the craft.

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The control of that vortex determines the speed downward.

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We're going over to the model dome where we have models

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of future type buildings and how they go together.

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Here you have the city system.

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I put domes here, but there'll be many variations.

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In other words... - What are those?

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- These are research centers. - Okay. -This is medicine

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agronomy, population designing

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improvement of products, energy systems.

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Energy in the future will be geothermal, most of it.

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You can get that from the earth. There's enough geothermal energy

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for thousands of years without worrying about anything.

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I'm not talking about solar, wind power or wave power

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or tidal power. All that is extra.

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There's no shortage of anything except brains in Washington.

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- You can't make money from the sun. - What's that?

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- You can't make money from the sun! - No, you can't. Exactly that.

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All these buildings can come apart and be recycled.

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Now if you follow me we'll go to the future.

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(Larry King) Alright, let's explore the thinking of Jacque Fresco

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and the society he'd like to see.

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We'll start with this, and you tell me...

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- I'll try to point it out. - Yeah, you can point right at it.

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- Most of the cities are based on natural configurations

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basic designs in nature. The center of the city

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the nucleus, will house an electronic computer

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which only controls water purification, the atmospheric conditions

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that is, it controls air contamination systems

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they maintain safety, they oversee the environment

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maintain ecological balance between animal life and plant life.

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The center of the city is a university.

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A university that covers all subjects related to man.

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There's no courses that are used to exploit

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or abuse any other human being.

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All repetitious jobs will be phased out.

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We feel that machines ought to do the filthy

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or the repetitious, or the boring jobs

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that man has to be free to pursue the higher things

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the higher possibilities of man.

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(Gazecki) You came up with this idea for a round city.

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- A round city. A round governmental branch.

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Extending out of it would be the department of agriculture

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education, oceanography, the disciplines.

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The circular scheme, or plan, brings each district

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closer to the central dome, which contains the medical

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food, shopping, everything else that people need.

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The circular arrangement makes it easier to operate

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using far less energy than any other system.

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If you start at one end of the city and go through the city

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you'll always return to the same place.

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Whereas, in a linear city, you go to one end

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you have to backtrack to get to the same point.

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The circular scheme is, by far, the most efficient.

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When cities are contracted in the future

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they will be contracted as a whole, as an entire system.

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In that way, all of the parts and components

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would be delivered in stages, like sequence one

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will be the underground: the heating system

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the electric generators, the piping systems, the recycling systems.

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After that, the next layer, which would serve

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as the first layer that contains the architecture

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the foundations for all the buildings.

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After that, the erection of structures up from the foundations

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starting with the central portion of the city

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working its way out to the different radial sectors

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and then out to the final housing sectors

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and then to the agricultural belt, and then to the recreation areas.

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The cities themselves are prefabricated.

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Most of the elements that comprise the structures of the cities

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are interchangeable, interlocking.

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They are designed so they can be disassembled

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just as they were assembled.

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The new cities will be updated continuously.

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As the waters are piped into the cities

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they are checked. To whatever extent contamination exists

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the water processing plants evaporate the water

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recondense it and cleanse it.

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All waters piped into the city will be monitored constantly

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not by a monitoring system, but several monitoring systems.

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The same is true of the air above and around the city:

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it's constantly monitored.

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All of the rooftops are photovoltaic.

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All of the skin, outer skin of the building

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convert solar radiation into electrical energy.

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As we move beyond the third sector

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we come to tennis courts, parks.

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Beyond that is the residential district, which consists of lakes

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waterfalls, all kinds of beautiful plants throughout the area.

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Each house is concealed by plants

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so you can't see another building. Some people prefer

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as in the next sector, to live in apartment houses.

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The apartments have drama groups, recreation, swimming pools

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discussion groups and so many other facilities.

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The disadvantage of living in a private home is you would have to go

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to the various places to access the same things.

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Instead of motor vehicles in the city

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all transportation is carried on by circular conveyors

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that we call transveyors.

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They move radially, circumferentially and vertically.

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They serve the function of elevators, buses, conveyors.

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If you wish to go to another city, you can take an elevator

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down beneath the central dome, which has Maglev trains, etc.

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that will transport you to the center

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of any other city or any other region.

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There will be no waste products, just as in nature

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there are no waste products. All materials

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that we would formerly called waste would be recycled

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and converted into new products.

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When the city hits a certain number of people

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we stop the development and let everything go back to nature

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between this and the next city.

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It doesn't mean that we can solve all the problems.

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We can just design and build a far better environment

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to advance all human beings.

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Not everybody will live in a dome.

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This is different types of architecture; this may be a vacation house.

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I don't know what people will choose to live in

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but that would be up to each individual.

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What we want to do is build cities in the sea.

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You pick the city you want to live in. Some of these cities

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are for ocean mining. The oceans have tungsten, manganese

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phosphorous; all kinds of chemical stuff we may need.

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They're made available to all people.

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You don't have to worry about being blind in the future.

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We design cities so you can hear an open door

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and you can sense a table, because you have built-in sensors.

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We work on making artificial methods for visual

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for everybody, because anybody can lose their eyesight.

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There's no more nickels and dimes for medical research.

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This is what the army of the future is all about.

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There's usually an alligator sleeping down here.

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(King) Are you betting that people will not declare war on each other, so that

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you can get at building all of this? -We don't have much choice.

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We're going to destroy each other, or we're going to make it.

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-This looks like some sort of submerged stadium with something...

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- We might build circular cities in the sea

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where the water is about 30-35 feet deep.

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Most of the apartment houses will open out into the sea.

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You can observe marine life and fish swimming by.

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There will be no zoos, no seaquariums.

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Everything will be observed in natural conditions.

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There will be boating, scuba diving, recreation, universities

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built in the sea.

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- Are these drawings all made by you? - Yes.

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(Fresco) This represents a blueprint

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of the basic structure of the city in the sea.

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There are helicopter landing areas on the upper section.

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There are cranes that travel around the entire upper portion

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of the structure. The legs are designed to move up and down

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to support the structure and rest on the sea bed.

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What are these cities in the sea for?

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Some of them represent hospitals

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that can be towed off the coast of Africa or India.

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Instead of sending building materials out there

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and building a hospital, then shipping the equipment out there.

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It's much easier to build a floating hospital

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tow it off the coast of Africa, use it

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and by the time the new hospitals are assembled there

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you can then move this to another region

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float it to another region.

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Most of the cities will be constructed in dry-docks

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by automated systems.

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After it's complete and the flood-locks are open

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and it fills with water and there are units that looks like tugboats

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that deliver the cities to their site where they will be located.

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Some will house as many as a million people;

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a series of cities in close proximity, joined together

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by transport systems, that is, tunnels either under the water

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or above-the-water bridges.

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This is an aerial view

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of one of the many variations of cities in the sea.

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The towers are used for residential occupation.

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The docks surrounding the cities

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are used for marine exploration and redevelopment.

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In other words, to restore the reefs, the damaged reefs.

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The unit in the center is used for hydroponic gardens;

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growing of food without soil.

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Many of the cities in the sea

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will have docking facilities for marine vehicles.

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That means it'll be like an underwater bus

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that would take people around to visit the different areas.

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You'll be able get a very good picture of the ocean

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and how we harness it and use it and preserve it and protect it

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so that future generations might enjoy the oceans, also.

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This projects above one of the cities under the sea

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with an observation platform and a landing platform on the upper deck.

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At the sea level there'll be a floating dock system

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that moves with the tide, up and down so boats can dock.

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Then you enter an elevator shaft, which goes to an airlock.

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It takes you to the bottom of the sea, or the sea bed.

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The sea bed is used for observation of reefs and marine life.

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Not only do they monitor the reefs, they restore the reefs

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and change them, rebuild them or redesign them.

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Some day we will be able to control the shape, configuration of reefs

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so they can support more marine life.

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I think humans can add to nature

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and improve it considerably. What will that mean?

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It'll mean a higher standard of living for all people.

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(Meadows) When he draws these buildings and designs

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he thinks about how they go together, how they're manufactured.

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Some of the drawings I have seen have gone back about 60 years

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and they're just beginning to talk about

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some of these things now as being a possibility.

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You know, in the past people would say: "You'd never be able

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to get to the moon, not in a thousand years!"

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And they'd look up the next day and they're going to the moon.

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You know, when I first met Jacque 25 years ago and he would talk

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to some people about certain inventions

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they'd say, "You won't see that... not in a thousand years!"

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And, ten years later, they'd come out with it on the cover of Popular Science.

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The whole basis of the technology is to maintain

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a high standard of living. Technology is not worth anything

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unless it improves people's lives.

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Today, people are afraid of science and technology

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because it's so abusive today in so many ways.

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But it's not science and it's not the technology

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we should be wary of, it's the abuse and the misuse of science.

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You can take a rocket and you can shoot it

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into space and explore outer space

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or you can take it and use it as a bomb and destroy another country.

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It's really the inanimate object

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really, is in our hands, and what we do with it.

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Science is really the ability to predict the next most probable.

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That's what the real meaning of science is:

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gaining the ability to predict the next most probable.

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When we talk about science, we're talking about a method

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of looking at a situation, a method of evaluation

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that differs from the opinionated system.

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"If you ask me, I'll tell you!"

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The scientific method has no special connection to truth.

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It really has a better way of looking at things

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than the earlier systems

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where everything was attributed to gods or demons.

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(Gazecki) This is where we get into applying the scientific method to society.

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-Yes. This is not in a book yet.

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The scientific method applied to society

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is something people don't think about much.

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But if you want to know about where the answers may lie

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it is in the application of the methods of science

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with human concern and environmental concern.

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The Future by Design refers to

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the application of the methods of science. Not scientists

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the methods of science to the social system.

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Naturally, even the methods of science undergo change.

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As they change, so would the future.

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If we use the scientific method throughout the world

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the probability of war drops to zero.

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The probability of human suffering disappears.

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Deprivation, poverty, crime...

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all those things tend to disappear, because there's no basis for it.

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(Meadows) Jacque spent a lot of time...before studying people

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he started studying how animals behave

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and how to change or predict the behavior of animals

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and came to the conclusion that it's really the environment

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that changes behavior and enables us to behave the way we do.

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We're not born with prejudice and bigotry and anger and greed.

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It's really generated and nurtured by the environment that we live in.

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That's why we feel that unless you change your environment

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and change the experiences, we'll get the same aberrant behavior

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within people, unless the environment is changed.

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(Fresco) Any culture in the world today

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tries to educate people

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so they'll serve a function in that particular culture.

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In other words, if you're brought up in a Nazi culture

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the flag waving and the swastika are the kinds of things they put forth.

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If you're brought up in a primitive tribe

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handling the javelin and the bow and arrow

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will be the kind of thing that you will be exposed to.

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People are conditioned to serve

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the interests of an established culture.

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Who does that to us? The owners of the institutions:

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The establishment. They give us a value system

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that would support existing structures

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whether it be religious, non-religious, industrial, military...

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When children say, you know, "Daddy, what's the greatest country in the world?"

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"Of course our country is the greatest country in the world."

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"Which god is the right god, Daddy?" "Our god.

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All the other gods are false gods."

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Picture this: a Roman family taking its kids to see the Christians

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being fed to the lions. And the kids are watching

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"Dad, can we come next week to see Christians being fed to lions?"

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Are these kids sick? No! Their value system is distorted.

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So, I'm strictly concerned with the environment

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that people are reared in, raised in.

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And if that environment is altered, so will behavior be altered.

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You reorient the environment and that in turn reorients people.

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But if you reorient people without

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touching the environment, it'll slip back.

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So, when you try to think about the future, remember this:

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the process with which you think about things

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is based upon indoctrination, what you're given by your society.

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Your range of thought is limited

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by the dominant values of your society.

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Learning to be flexible in values takes a long time.

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In talking to kids, when I was very young

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I had to be very patient with them if I were to make any progress.

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I talked about the concept of god:

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your concept of god, my concept of god, and his concept of god.

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So different... I wonder what God is really like.

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Or, if there is a god, for that matter.

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And why would god permit war and disease if he's all-loving?

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It didn't make sense to me...too many clashes.

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I questioned that.

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Of course, I felt a little uncomfortable

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during questioning the concept of god.

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But then, reading about the history and evolution

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of gods. There were many different gods:

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the god of war, the god of peace, the god of love...

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Which was more like the people that invented them.

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They behaved, they got angry, they made sacrifices

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they created floods when they didn't like the way things were going.

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And this did not come through as superior intelligence.

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Primitive people, going back in time, when they saw lightning

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they thought that the deity was angry. Why else would it not occur?

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When a hurricane swept the land, they got rid of certain people

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in their tribe as a sacrifice, hoping that the gods

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would not produce a second hurricane.

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However, if it did occur again

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then they sacrificed some of the younger people.

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Rarely would the chief sacrifice himself

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but he's always got a line of people, ready to sacrifice.

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So, you have that problem with human beings.

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Anything that occurs beyond their comprehension

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they have to invent an excuse for.

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They have to create gods and demons

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to account for things, because people come

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to the leadership of that community.

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No matter how primitive the tribe, they say:

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"How come bad wind blow people off island?"

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The guy says "You not behave good!

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You not make not enough contribution to volcano!

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Throw your brother-in-law into volcano, maybe it doesn't erupt then."

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So, if you throw your brother-in-law into the volcano

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and it still erupts, you have to throw your sister-in-law in.

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So you get metaphysics. You get religion.

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You get superstition "Knock wood".

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Or you wear a rabbit's foot. Just remember

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that the rabbit had four of them; didn't do him any good.

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So, on down the line, superstition prevails

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wherever ignorance prevails.

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Myth is a way of saying to the little guy

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working out there in the field when he says

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"What does all this amount to? I never seem to be getting anywhere."

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"When you kick the bucket everything is there for you.

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If you don't get it in this life you'll get it in the next

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if you remain good."

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The amount of superstition that a culture can absorb

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would be directly proportionate to the amount of information people have.

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So, in the future, with adequate supply of information

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more than that which is given today

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considerably more, you don't have

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"knock wood. Today's my lucky day. When your number's up, it's up."

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All that will disappear in the future.

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I look at this as everything he's doing

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as being the utmost in spirituality.

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Instead of looking for a better world later after you die,

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it's really building the types of things that all religious teachings

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talk about here on Earth.

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We don't have to wait until we die for that.

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We can confront our problems today and not wait

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for the Messiah to come with the white robe and change things

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or not wait until we all go to heaven at a certain time

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or those believers that go to heaven at a certain time.

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We can deal with the problems today.

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For instance, in a religion

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they put things on the will of god.

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If there's an accident it's the will of god.

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And it stops you from thinking. It stops you from being innovative.

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It stops you from thinking about "Well, how do we redesign

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the transportation system so we don't have those problems anymore?"

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So, he's worked with priests, and he's worked with religious people

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and kind of expanded their horizons a bit so they can be more creative.

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They look at the environment that shapes people's behavior

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and they don't call them "good" or "bad" anymore, they think about

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shaping the environment

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to get more constructive behavior.

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(Fresco) If you were to ask me to redesign the world

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and the way people live. First thing I would have to do

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is to conduct a survey to find what we have

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how much water we have

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how much people we have, how much arable land area.

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After I know that, then I can base the parameters of design

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on what we have.

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What you really need is an understanding of the Earth's resources

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by agronomists, geologists, geophysicists; people who study the Earth.

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They don't give you their opinion. They say

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"There's more life in the Antarctic." That's not an opinion.

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That's a finding. So, in the future, no more opinions.

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"Do you have information in this area?" "No, I don't."

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"Good! Here's where you might get it."

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Or "Here's how you might go about finding out."

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So I'm saying, "All people need clean air

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clean water, arable land

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and a good relationship of language."

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So, I'm not superimposing Fresco's concepts.

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I'm using the Earth as the measure.

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In other words, we have to live in accordance

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with the carrying capacity of the Earth.

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Does that make sense? - Yes, sir, it does. I keep wondering

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about how drastic a social change this is

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and how totally different our world would be

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and, yeah, how do you get - from here to there?

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- people to accept it, yeah. - Okay, here's how we do it.

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Eventually, all decision-making

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will be transferred to machines. First, people say

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"Well, now, I don't know that I'd like machines making decisions."

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First of all, that's what a scale does. If you go to a butcher shop

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the butcher says "The chicken weighs six pounds."

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Since you're buying it, you say: "that doesn't look like six pounds to me!"

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So you grab it and say "I think it weighs about four" because you're tense

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to think to weigh less. Then the scale came in

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and we assigned decision making to the scale.

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Is that right? - Yes, sir. - So, so do pilots.

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When they fly, "I think I'm a mile and a half high."

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They look at an instrument, and it tells them they're

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4,203 feet off the ground.

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So, that is decision made by machine

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because the decision-making by the machine is far more accurate.

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Now, the question normal people ask is

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"Yes, but can machine be smarter than the designer?"

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Well, I know a little guy that designed a machine

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to pick up a freight train and empty it. Now, he can't do that.

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Machines are always faster than the designer.

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You ever see a coke bottle machine move on the line?

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The designer, he can't move those bottles.

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What is happening in our societies? We are automating

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more and more decision-making and assigning it to machines.

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Picture a department of agriculture as a setup of computers

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with electrical wiring into the soil.

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So, if the water table drops, that pumps water out there.

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If the nutrients change it pumps nutrients. You don't need a guy

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out there saying "Mr. President, we have a drought out here!"

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And the President says "How bad is it?"

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"Well, there are 5,000 homeless, and in the next three days

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there'll be 15,000 homeless."

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So, the President says, "Hmm." So he flies over

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and he says "Yes, you do have a drought." So what?

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When you connect up the country, all the computers

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to production, distribution, agriculture

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you have a nervous system

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which maintains dynamic equilibrium

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in production and distribution of goods and services, without money.

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The government is right above your head there

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if you can turn around to see it. It looks like the globe.

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That globe there makes all the decisions, because it's connected!

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We have satellites around the Earth that project a hologram

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a virtual image of the Earth.

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So you're looking at the real Earth, in real time.

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So you walk over to the image screens and you talk. You say

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"How many planes are in the air at this instant?"

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The computer will hit a laser spot all over the world and tell you: "7320".

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Every plane in the air, every hurricane

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all the conditions all over the Earth... plant diseases...

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No human can do that.

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So we don't need people in government. We need electronics

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in the field, production, distribution, weather...

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So we can look, come at home and find out anything we want to know

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without opinions based on folk-say, or folksy ways.

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(Gazecki) The Future by Design is a self-regulated society

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governed by a cybernated system of supply and demand.

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Political systems are replaced by tabulating

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the input of information from the general population

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and delivering goods and services accordingly.

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The economic system is similarly based

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upon the use of all available resources

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in meeting the needs of the entire culture.

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(Meadows) When there's a depression or a dip in the economy

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and a lot of people don't have money to buy things

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there are still goods out there. There's still the ability to produce them.

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There's still the resources, there's the farms

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and people want to work and make things

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but they don't have the money, they can't buy things.

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So there's something terribly wrong out there, we have

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a great deal of the Earth's population starving and suffering

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and the resources are there. Our ability to produce is there.

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Our ingenuity is there. Yet, some people have a lot

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and others don't have anything.

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Today, that's really shameful with our technology.

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It's really very, very abusive and absurd

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because we have all the technology today

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to produce abundance all over the world for everyone.

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People always ask, "How much will it cost to put up these new cities?"

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Do we have the resources to do it?

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That's the question, not, "How much does it cost?"

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That's the old question during a monetary system.

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Money is an invention of convenience

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for purchasing goods and services

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in a scarcity environment. If there's a scarcity

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say, of water, it is prized, and its price is high.

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If we find an abundant suddenly the earth opens up

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and an abundant supply of fresh water fills every ravine

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then nobody cares.

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There's only a policeman in front of something

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that people have need for

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and don't have access to, so you put a guard there.

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But if lemon trees or orange trees and apple trees

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grew all over the place, you couldn't sell it.

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Imagine, if you will, if you can, an island of 10,000 people

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with $10 billion on the island available.

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No resources, no arable land, no water

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no fish, you have nothing.

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So what is the real value in the future?

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Resources.

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Now, in a non-monetary based society, a resource-based society

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people have access to anything that they need

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somewhat like the public library.

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They can go down and access a camera, or a bicycle, or a wristwatch.

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Anything that they need is available, without a price tag.

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That would mean we must achieve a level of production

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that's so high that scarcity no longer exists.

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Many people wonder what would drive people

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if they have access to all their needs.

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What would happen to incentive? What will motivate people?

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Or, something gained, what's the gain?

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Although the gain is that materials are available

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what will motivate them on to do better than what they have?

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Need. We will always lack.

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And the fact that we will always lack meaning

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that we cannot achieve perfection

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we cannot achieve truly dynamic equilibrium

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we will always be in some form of disequilibrium.

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With the elimination of scarcity the essential incentives change

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toward problem solving, in general.

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When nations or groups of people do not have access to resources

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their behavior is difficult to manage.

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It becomes aberrant, they lose their mental equilibrium

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they cannot arrive at appropriate conclusions.

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Once people are free, mentally

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of debt, obligation, servitude

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then they can seek new horizons

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that they've never even dreamt possible before.

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(Gazecki) The core mechanism of democratic process in the Future by Design

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is the use of public exhibition halls.

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With the exhibition hall, everyone has the opportunity to participate

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in establishing the priorities with which the society is governed.

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-So, just like a world fair, to show you what's new, what is available

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you look around and say, "I'd like one of those"

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or, "I can use that sort of thing in my kitchen." Whatever it is.

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And then they always invite comment, or something new comes up

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"What do you think about it? Do you feel it's efficient?

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Do you feel there's shortcomings? Enter into your computer

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your point of view regarding this, so you have a built-in democracy.

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You have a participatory culture where all people participate

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and that is in a constant process, so that people

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will know up to the minute what is coming out

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what exists, what is available, what is not available.

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In other words, there'll be many bulletins and many publications

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and visualizations of what is needed.

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So, all the world's people will be informed constantly

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of what we don't know, what is needed badly

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and asking for suggestions and papers

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and ideas from everybody.

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I just want to say this to you, that all the marvels

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and wonders of technology can amount to nothing

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unless it elevates humans to their highest potential.

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This is the aim of the Future by Design.

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(Meadows) Jacque continues to invent everyday, to invent, to write, to work.

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He has a zest for life that keeps him going and keeps him working.

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And he's interested in things. He's interested in

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what happens out there and how this will play out

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and how it'll turn out, while very much wanting

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to introduce this direction to the world. So that's his prime focus.

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And he does that in every way he can by actually showing

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it's not enough to just tell what the future will be like, but just

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to show what people are missing.

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He keeps coming up with new ideas, new inventions

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new designs, improves what he has

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represents them better, makes more models, makes more videos.

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He's relentless at trying to get these ideas out.

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I think he fears where society is now. It's not acceptable to him.

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But, instead of just complaining, he wants to propose an alternative.

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When people say "Are you trying to build a perfect society?"

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I have no notions of a perfect society. I don't know what that means.

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I know we can do much better than what we've got.

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I'm no Utopian.

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I'm not a humanist who would like to see

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everybody living in warmth and harmony.

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I know that, if we don't live that way, we'll kill each other

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and destroy the Earth. We're a crude form of life right now

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in the evolutionary stages. Our civilization...

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really we're not even civilized yet.

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So, after the world joins together

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and we are through with military systems, prisons, torture

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hunger, poverty, deprivation. When that is gone

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that'll be the beginning of the civilized world.

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We are not there yet.