Culture of Classroom Discourse
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There's a culture o public discourse
in classrooms in which the staff really gets results,
and children have two responsabilities:
They have to speack up, so people can hear you,
and they have to listen and expect to be listened to.
How many students in our classes when they say something
is me teacher - student?
That's the dynamics of most classroom discourse:
Teacher-student...
And when it's teacher-student...
sleeping time for everybody else.
If it is this,
there's no expectation that anybody is gonna have anything to say about it.
This business of the idea of this...
or the idea of the hologram
whatever is going on with adults
it's also going on with children.
Most of us are not great listeners
Some people are born great listeners
but most of us have to learn how to listen well
and most staff meetings, most great level meetings
somebody dominates, somebody shuts down
there are a lot of stuff going on
attending to this things and giving each other tools to work with
can launch the conversation,
This is a kind of a playful tool
it allows us to own our stuff, you know
and also works with kids.
I've worked with kids as young as 2nd grade
I had to change the language a little bit
when I worked with kids that young,
but all the way through high school, adults,couches,teachers, whatever...
tools like this can launch the conversation and get us
to agree to certain norms or rethink how
we're actually talking to each other.
What we are working on it's getting kids to hear
to each other, to start to attend to each other.
You can hear how hard that is you can see how hard that is
because they are not used to expecting
to have to pay attenction to one another student says.
The idea that you have to repeat something
and repeat it and repeat it most people think that's insane.
I don't have time to do that, if you don't do that
your kids are not learning, you are getting through the curriculum
but you don't have any real evidence of learning.
What happens in most classrooms is once a kid gives the right answer,
we move on.
We don't know why they gave the right answer
We don't know if anybody else has the same thinking
or agrees with the answer or not
but we heard what we wanted to hear, so move on...
That's what teaching is most of the time.
My advice: slow down...
and find out who heard what.
So the basic beginning moves if you want teacher to begin to work on this...
if they are convinced that talk is important and frustraiting because they can't get it going
then here is what you do:
The first thing the teacher needs to do is ...
No matter what a kid says when you ask a question
you ask them further questions:
What do you thing.. tell me how you got that,
or say more about that...
Any phrase that will get the kid to tell you what
they are thinking whether the answer is right or wrong..
because we have to help the teachers
get away from the right-answer nonsense too.
It's not about right answers it's about developing reasoning
and the capacity to articulate and communicate.
2:The simpliest,easiest move and one a lot middle school
and high school teachers are afraid of
is turn and talk, restating by students.
The teachers are doing the work, the teachers are doing the learning.
That's it.. whoever is doing the work is doing the learning.
And finally the teacher at moments revoices things
so there are reasons why the teacher would revoices
but it is not at the beginning and it's not every time
it is when the kids are now at a place
where they've been grappling with an idea
and we need to give some clarity.
We need to highlight the idea.
So those are the 3 or 4 beginnig moves
of starting to get talk going in the classroom.
Any video would get you conversation..
looking for videos where you have great talks
of people starting to have images
of what it looks like and also images of regular-everyday type classroom
so you can compare and contrast them
and start to have discussions,
dialogue debate about how important is this talk thing
and how much are we willing to invest in getting it
to get happening in our classrooms...
if you thinck it's not important
don't bother go on something else.
I wanna speak for 2 seconds on this cicle
like is not really a cicle
so much the stages the people go through
as they start to get in this collaborative groups.
The whole teaching proffesion for
the last 100 years has been individual preference basically
and we work by ourselves in isolation.
A hundred years of history here, probably more,
not only in Canada, in any western country,
that's what it's been and now we are moving
to this collaborative work
Well, when you put a buch of individuals that were used to
autonomy, their own preference, etc.
when they sit in a group the first thing
they experience is a feeling like they have to
compromise which is all about winning and losing...
like my point I'm going to stick to it
or I'm giving this even if it's what everybody
wants me to do.. so neither feels very good,
but it's usually a first stage in learning to work together.
Then comes cooperation where we come to be nice
to each other maybe we get a bit further along
in our thinking or we can actually ground something
and then comes collaboration
collaboration takes a lot of skill
collaboration is a deep process that is not about compromising
and is not about 100% consensus
is about using evidence and data and working on a project
and looking at what is working and trying it again
and all those kind of things
So this adult path is mirrowed in the classroom
you see the same thing with kids
they would compete with each other
they want star, they want...
if you put them in groups you'll see
kids back in off and kids dominating
maybe you'll get to some cooperative language
and then eventually you'll get to collaboration
if you are paying attention to those things
So I'm always thinking on two levels
I always think of how do an adult operate
what kind of feedback are we giving each other
or are we willing to receive
and then what it is look like in the classroom
when we cultivate our own habits,
they show up in the classroom
and they raise the bar for what actually
for what is actually going on in the classroom.