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Understanding The Zeitgeist Movement Critics: malicious intent or innocent ignorance? Hello my name is Peter Joseph and this is a July 15th 2012 video essay. I haven't done an essay in a while so I decided it would be about time. This video is going to quickly address some persistent misinterpretations of the movement, which originate from researchers and reporters which, frankly, should know better. Please understand that there are many people out there who oppose or object to various issues brought up by the movement but at least they do so in a way that actually has some basis with respect to what the movement is and does. I have nothing but respect for those who oppose us with, general consideration diligence in the process of their criticism, as the old saying goes: "If we all agreed there would be no progress." So this essay is not to denounce general critics of the Zeitgeist Movement who have done basic, fundamental research of the movement and communicate their ideas and objections in a mature, respectful way. That's amazing and great. In fact, I want to bring on notable critics of the movement to The Zeitgeist Movement's global radio show to speak with me and others directly about their objections. Unfortunately a lot of people out there prefer to just criticize from afar. And I'm sorry to say, if any researcher or reporter is not willing to interact with those persons or groups they choose to criticize, being open to change their disposition through new clarifying information, their integrity is instantly void. We live in a very different world today with the age of the internet and now everyone has the ability and freedom to present their ideas and criticisms of the world. However, as with all freedom comes increased responsibility. And one-sided closed attacks are simply intellectually unjustifiable, whether intended or not. At any rate, if you would like to suggest somebody for our global radio show please email [email protected] dot com with the subject line 'TZM objections' and we will work to bring them on, so we can understand the criticisms better. Okay, back on point: The trigger for this essay was my recent discovery of an apparently peer review-style article published in two thousand eleven in the 'Journal of Contemporary Religion' called 'The Emergence of Conspirituality' by Charlotte Ward and David Voas. I discovered this article by stumbling upon the current state of The Zeitgeist Movement's wikipedia page which sadly undergoes constant edit-wars by some very persistent and clearly anti-Zeitgeist Movement gatekeepers that subtlely polute and distort what The Zeitgeist Movement actually does. You know, as much as I appreciate wikipedia's democratic platform which is truly amazing in most cases, when it comes to anything controversial or seemingly subjective in interpretation, you often end up with ongoing edit-wars, and only the most persistent and aggressive will win. In such a context, wikipedia is not about truth and proper representation, it is simply about aggression and persistence and those with the most time, evidently, will win. Anyway, while I never take wikipedia seriously as a source on that basic level, I'm still very much amused by what surfaces in this sort of entertainment aspect with respect to the ongoing debate-scene of The Zeitgeist Movement there through deliberate misinterpretation and spin by its gatekeepers. My favorite part is the current criticism section, not only because none of the criticisms actually have anything to do with The Zeitgeist Movement's interests and intense, but also because of how much it outweighs and focus the other flimsy statements that appear to express what The Zeitgeist Movement is, actually providing no real information of relevance at all, just a hodge-podge of prima facie and projections that ignore mostly everything the movement advocates, harping instead on my personal unrelated artistic expressions, the Zeitgeist-film series, specifically my first film which was made years before the movement was even realized and has no direct connection at all with respect to the movement's interests. And for those familiar, it's nothing new, we have endless 9/11 conspiracy relationships from the first film highlighted which of course have nothing to do with anything we promote. We have this very odd article by Michelle Goldberg which suggests that the movement of some type of anti-semitic cult along with some dubious claim about this german social network site that banned evidently one of our groups because of anti-semitism which is completely absurd, since there's no evidence that the group that was banned had any official connection to our chapter network and was not just some random page using our name which has been prolific across the internet, and, not to mention of course, The Zeitgeist Movement clearly has no racial, religious or class bias, rather seeks human unification and supporting general not-division, but my real interest here is the noted article in the 'Journal of Contemporary Religion' in the lapse, complete lapse of academic integrity put forward by the authors which paints not only an incorrect picture of the movement, but an offensive and defaming one. Let me ask YOU a question: If you were a reporter wanting to learn about The Zeitgeist Movement objectively, and you wanted to understand what it was or what it did, what would you do? Would you go to Wikipedia? Would you go to some random blog or youtube-video that comes up in a search engine? Or would you go to the official site that actually made its points very clear regarding what the organization does, its mission, and review our official materials and lectures? The Zeitgeist Movement's website is been up since 2009 with a very concise FAQ and an enormous number of lectures by our lecture team. It's very difficult to miss, in fact how obvious, what our mission is. Sadly, however, appears the FAQ, the pdf guides, the lectures an the enormous amount of work put into this through radio shows, and parallel websites, blogs and so forth, our global event days, our townhall lectures, our media project, the entire educational method in advocation, apparently all of that is invalid when it comes to the interests of some of those that wish to report on us. Of course, to give credit where credit is due: the New York Times off it's imposed reviews of z day along with many live interviews in reports by russia today mostly got it right but the vast majority continued to embarrass themselves with what appears to be simply lazy research or even worse malicious intent. In fact, very quickly, an amusing article at least in gesture produced by the london telegraph a few weeks ago without any noted evidence at all, claims that an unfortunately disillusioned boy insensitively label as "Forest Boy" by the media was quote "inspired by the zeitgeist movement" with the author going on to make some of the most egregious errors i've ever seen an article. It is said "the boy was inspired to travel to germany by the teachings of the zeitgeist movement that aims to destroy market capitalism". The Zeitgeist Movement has never published anything about destroying anything, first of all. Our disposition is simply that capitalism will destroy itself, in fact we are simply watching it go down and planning for the future like any diligent group should. as far as his travelling to germany the author was forced to actually retract and remove they claimed that i originated from germany germany i peter joseph apparent and german citizen uh... which of course i'm not amongst many amateur airs i guess that my dad in well with the argument apparently an anti-semitic some sure michelle goldberg appreciate that nevertheless it also refers to things like it's a quote political movement that holds future generations will view christianity as a fried unquote actually known as like a smooth respects all religions equally as a course of human evolution and has never published anything making such statements this is once again they deliberate misinterpretation coming from my personal two thousand seven film which had interests about comparative religion and has nothing to do with the movement itself if michael moore start of the social movement does that movement means going to have to be about say adolescent violence such as what was the context of this film in part for bowling for columbine what about his movie fahrenheit nine eleven does that mean his movement would have to be about nine eleven issues that was noted in the film even the premise that a whole non-profit social movement could be based upon nearly a film series is idiotic anyway moving on the article also refers to us as a protest movement which is really are given that we've never protest in anything you do not intend to so we don't believe in the efficacy of traditional protest instead we work through peaceful educational projects in the hope to bring about sound logic in reason regarding new social possibilities so the public once informed can make up their own mind and if we transition we do if we don't then we don't in the words of buckminster fuller a strong influence on the cyclist movements intent quote you never change things by fighting the existing reality to change something build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete unquote sadly the telegraph reporters not alone in this leads us to the noted article in the journal of contemporary religion the context of the zai case movements inclusion in this article is presented as related to a phenomenon perceived by the authors called conspirator wildly which is defined as a combination of a new age believes and conspiracy culture in effect it isn't the scope of this essay discuss the rather abstract linkage the authors are trying to draw but i will say that the entire papers based upon a series of self defining self referring extremely subjective circumstantial pre suppositions that haphazardly in crudely categorize a large number of counter-culture type groups in the world today now in some agreement regarding the subject of conspiracies as a theme i will admit that i personally have lost a lot of patients with those who rather than work to really consider the root causes scientifically of human behavior or entity in the system like ours that rewards power consolidation control it used to just harp upon the symptom itself referencing the unseen fades at war the human blame game no matter how exotic in creative simply bores me to death as it actually isn't doing anything progressive and on that level i can share in the frustration of those who believe things that really don't accomplish anything or could be a roni s because they're not related directly to causality on the other hand to dismiss the very idea that human society a store cli isn't has been controlled by various power establishments we can talk about traditional ones like kings in march to the age of feudalism it also extend that of course to what the occupy move is fighting today with regard to financial power those betsy in to preserve their self-interest over others manipal into their advantage dishonestly is not a profound out their radical conspiracy not job notion okay in a world today where forty percent of the wealth is owned by one percent of the world's population anyone who thinks there is no structurally based self interest warranted manipulation for upper-class advantage is in an enormous level of denial about the nature of our reality today and the use of the term conspiracy theorist recently has served those in power quite well by making all of those who realized such unfair social realities simply appear like a rational lunatics as expected this article takes the establishment perspective overall painting the picture that any such realizations are all irrational conspiracy theories and is internet painted in their words as part of a political spiritual philosophy wind combined with the new any which they define as quote mystical individual transformation an awareness of new known material realities the imposition of personal vision into society and belief in universally invisible but pervasive forms of energy unquote okay all of that development step back and see how they fit design test movement and all of this on page seven of the article extract section entitled the emergence of conspirator loudly they begin to discuss the cyclist movement by source in a singular statement very much out of context and in a very misleading manner from an old obviously cherry pick introductory essay called that means is the end which can be found archived online they partially quote a paragraph which to one who is not ready anything else in the essay provides absolutely no info about what the zeitgeist movement is not to mention opening it up to a large scale semantic misinterpretations obviously fitting their agenda the quote is as follows open quote delete power systems are little effective in the long run by traditional protest and political movements we must move beyond these establishment of billions and work with the tool much more powerful we will stop supporting the system will costly advocating knowledge pc knitting compassion we cannot fight the system hate anger in war mentality czar failed means for change today perpetuate the same tools the corrupt stab was power systems used to maintain control it this could be called a spiritual awakening unquote first the n statement this could be called a spiritual awakening appears nowhere in the noted section is completely out of context only placed because they felt it was convenient not to mention that the entire context of the quote has nothing to do with new age free thought and certainly devoid of anything suggesting conspiracy theory outside of the obvious signaling and i've already stated with respect to abuse in power which has been rampant since the beginning of time also since i stay that quote after those i don't understand it given my comments earlier this is depicting that the martin luther king john the style non dissipation which is probably strongest form of peaceful activism anyone can be a part of and for those that don't understand that please get out your history books understand what non-violent non participation activism actually is extremely important i suspect by the circumstances presented here that martin luther king and gandhi given their recognition of abuse from power it and oppression from power coupled with their interest to see humanity work together i guess they were also be considered conspirator well insists as well so given the nature of the quote being truly absent of anything new age or conspiracy warranted they circumvent this problem with the proceeding paragraph stating the roni asin long deblong intent association regarding my two thousand seven film zag geist which again has nothing to do with his eye case movement they state quote the second quote is weighted towards conspiracy theory this is by the way with the referring to the chorus rent it was taken from this i case movement or website promoting global activism connected to citebase the movie a two thousand seven web movie psychosom ledges among other things that organized religion is about social control nine nine eleven was an inside job unquote and then that's when they actually have the quote that i just read so you can see how this is framed you know i would like the authors of this article provide one piece of evidence that the cyclist movement officially promotes anything the noted in my films i case the movie how lazy can you be the forty-plus hours of lectures and the sqn days townhalls e_t_'s media festivals is there one official publication lecture about nine eleven conspiracies that we two know i live in truth by myself for other prominent individuals representing the psych this move in talks is any of our guys in p_s_ and while the belief systems in religion and their values are always gonna be subject to to scrutiny and interest of any group that's thinking about the broad order in a society nothing in my film the first film has anything to do with those contacts for part of his eye case movement which is extremely passive and we've always noted being completely open to all religions seen them as evolutionary consequences nevertheless i do find amusing that in one of the sources they have for the statements it goes back to my zag case movie dot com website which in the queue in a day stores actually has the following statement a few paragraphs down it says the relationship of the films is mainly in gesture to the zeitgeist movement well the films have served as an inspiration for the movement the subject matter in the films as not to be confused at the main materials intrusive is like a school itself which focus on values resource economics and sustainability for example it easy and is not about nine eleven comparative religion central banking financial reform or the like in the world today may are active in these areas and work to resolve the money per case basis desitin seven is not interested in this its function is to find the source of problematic social phenomenon an act was all that at its core this is why a completely new social system is expressed in the movements material obviously they read that in ignored it nevertheless the article then goes on in general to lump a number of subcultures and this new obviously pejoratively angled conspirator loudly institution they lead up to a final indication of the exceptional academic fallibility of the office it states quotes providers have credentials in appear credible to many despite promoting believes that often seem bizarre to non subscribers choc fresco inventor of the site guyz the movie and the movement is an architect then does anyone else is something wrong with the statement how could the authors even visiting my personal film project website psychiatry dot com made by the director media mean how do you mess that up it sounds to me like it took a bunch of stuff and they they didn't bother to fax it anything they probably had some really bad internist somebody compile this conglomerate of some cultures and they just women and just through this thing together and it's really really prophetic and by the way for those that don't know jack fresco is the director of the leading this project i have to tell you that this is the state of of our academic got today peer review academia i'm terrified okay in conclusion because i guess movement bodies this conspirator welling taking this seriously still it would have to fit the criteria that they have denoted which is on page three of the extract extract or page where for the whole journal it says quote we argue that conspirator well he is a political spiritual philosophy based on to core convictions the first traditional to conspiracy theory and the second rooted in the new page quite won a secret group covertly controls or is trying to control the political and social order and number two committee is undergoing a paradigm shift in consciousness or awareness so solutions to whenever one that you know that sicker group lion acting in accordance with in a weekend new paradigm worldview criteria number one business like this movement promote that a secret group is covertly trying to control or is controlling the political and social order not at all design cars movement expresses in part to social system supports the creation of power establishments and those establishments have a tendency to operate for their own self-interest often in a dishonest way against others and that is not a far-fetched conspiracy theory even though there might be conspiracy or e into by definition this is common knowledge commonly understood and our legal system today prosecute such active figures in institutions almost on a daily basis there's no mystery second criteria does the cyclist movement believe that quote humanity is undergoing a paradigm shift in consciousness or awareness and solutions to the first issue lion acting in accordance with them a leak in the new paradigm worldview i don't know what the hell even means frankly but the slightest movement simply recognizes is throughout all of our materials again everything undergoes change in including our social system we promote tangible scientifically based proven solutions to help solve crime problems and create prosperity that's it buzz words like paradigm shift or consciousness means virtually anything frankly to those who read it based on the background the psychosom and does not promote spacey intuitive terial shoes in descriptive consciousness ideals i affect the ether and change the world some metaphysical way which appears to be the nature of the new age argument by the definition that the authors of choosing now i will admit that because of the vast popularity of the cyclist filmed as i case moving the whole film series excuse me uh... you do have people that see this and and that is a great vinay here about this i case movement and they do instantly think but there's some connection which is obviously the point of this entire uh... video essay that i'm doing however the moment those people begin to interact with anyone as i case movement that they're trying to promote nine eleven truth comparative religious awareness or new-age things if you will whatever uh... they will find out very rapidly but as i catch them it has nothing to do with any of them doesn't mean that there are people that might claim such things that are incomplete ignorance but we have no control over that as i guess it was one of most open on institutions on the face of the earth anyone can subscribe to these ideas in claim to be a part of it which a one size quite dangerous says were costly being misrepresented as anybody in their mother can go out and do whatever and then claim they're part of his eye case movement elect to do is say it course the media loves that but the alternative is far too restrictive and against the ethic of the movement you know if you agree with the movement and you understand it coming to a group that supports it not chapters and help make change if you don't agree with that then don't agree with it and don't volunteer however that there's no one is the ultimate anti institution it's based only on the train of thought no group identification we only use the group model because we have to have something in structure to keep some type of process when it comes to our activities now in closing let me just to express a certain amount of frustration because when these articles come out of when they're recognized a people contact me and they sent me this stuff than expected me to always be there to respond as though i'm i'm in that role all of representation when i'm really not and the more time goes on the last so i'm going to be representing the movement expecting others to step forward because i have other things i have to do in my professional life the movement exists on its own as the trail font i'm not leaving anything so you have to take it upon yourselves bible make some suggestions if you want to promote this like a stomach correctly on the internet amongst all the noise therefore things you can do which interconnect very easily imputed to maintain their all free why not get a word press blog get a twitter account to three get a face book page only four u representation of movement and get a you tube account and post amongst all of these interconnecting them you can promote our articles you duplicate them you bring up conversations you invite other bloggers can do something it does not take a lot of effort everyday to maintain simple internet activism so when people come to the internet they actually understand what we're doing in the general sphere sense as denoted in this article it appears a lot of our supposing academic researchers actually don't do any tangible research at all their sourcing bullshit and if you want to stop the bullshit you're gonna have to come in and begin to counter it that's all i have to say this is peter joseph thank you for listening

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