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Transcript for Zinny.mov

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Kwa-Zulu Natal South Africa

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August 2007

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Kwa-Zulu Natal is one of the 9 provinces in South Africa.

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As much as it is beautiful--

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the culture and the people are still having to deal with a lot of challenges inherited from the apartheid regime

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poverty, crime, rape

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[on billboard] Midlands Funeral Home

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HIV and TB

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[on billboard] Umthuthuzeli I am a woman and a comforter. My Funeral Plan has given me strength in times of sorrow

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-- Niginavo amandia--Inspired, Motivated, Involved

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that are challenging our province and our people.

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[Dr. Bruce Walker] What Zinny does, day in and day out, is, she works as an ARV counselor

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and she does it in the area with the highest prevalence of HIV infection--

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[On screen] Dr. Bruce Walker, Director Partner AIDS Research Center

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--and it's in one of the areas with the least resources available.

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So--talk about taking on a challenge--Zinny has taken on a challenge.

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I met Zinny at a hospice in Durbin.

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And I was going there, bringing some food--

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[On screen] Dr. Krista Dong TEACH Program Director

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--to a hospice support group, and when I arrived, the whole group was--

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--some of them in wheelchairs, some of them in stretchers, others were sitting on chairs--

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--and there was this ver-r-ry thin woman in the back seat, singing like an angel

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[singing]

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[Zinny] When she met me, I was straight from being in hospital

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with meningitis, which is a headache that usually gets to trouble people with end-stage AIDS

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I had already started helping other patients in the clinic that I was receiving my antiretroviral in-

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working in ARV clinics, in support groups, visiting patients, singing for patients

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just spending time with them.

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So what would be helpful for you?

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Zinny and I started as--we started as trainers--and I would give English and Zinny would give the Zulu translation..

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So Zinny was my translator.

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It didn't take long for me to figure out that Zinny had much more important things to say--

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and valuable things to say--to patients than I did.

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[Dr. Walker narrates] What Zinny and Krista decided was that, in order to have a real impact

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on this epidemic in South Africa

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They had to be able to have an impact within the Department of Health--

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And so they specifically chose one of the least-resourced hospitals in one of the worst-affected provinces in the world.

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It was a very strategic decision--"Let's go where it's the worst, to see if we can make it the best there."

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"Then we will have an easier time other places."

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[Krista narrates] In Kwa Zulu Natal--every other person--you look down the road--was positive--negative--

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positive--negative

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Every other adult walking down the street is HIV infected.

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The clinic here--pregnant women coming for antenatal services--60% of them are infected

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And of those, up to 30%--without any intervention--are going to deliver positive babies.

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We have 1500 nurses trained that join the workforce here in the public health sector every year.

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One thousand, five hundred.

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2000 nurses die from AIDS every year.

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[Zinny narrates] We have a huge shortage of human resources.

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There are not enough doctors.

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There are not enough nurses.

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There are not enough resources for basic care.

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You can imagine how impossible or difficult it is to roll out an ARV program

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to a system that is not ready for basic things.

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[Dr. Walker] The good news is that, medications are now available to treat HIV infections in the public sector in South Africa.

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The problem is that--there still is not sufficient access to those medicines.

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The number of people now needing therapy compared to the number of people that have been placed on therapy--

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through all these various efforts--that gap is actually widening.

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HIV is not a social problem. It is not a Department of Health problem. It is not a welfare -- Department of Welfare problem--

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It's everybody's. The community. Parents. Children.

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It's the people in South Africa that--needs to be also engaged in the fight against HIV.

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singing, clapping, drumming, dancing

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[Dr. Krista Dong] Izlate is the name of an old African tree--it's an old name for a tree where they took branches

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before the time of having matchsticks [sound of rubbing hands together] and they rubbed them together and with the friction start fires.

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You know, Izlate--to make fire in the community--so if we can rub the sticks and make a fire in the community to support patients.

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[gentle instrumental music] Orphan Feeding Program

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He says he likes coming here because he can get something to eat here--

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whereas at home he can't get food because he lives with his granny-- and his granny and his grandfather--

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--his mother passed away and his dad lives in Durbin. So that part -- that he doesn't have a mother--makes him not happy.

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[speaks in Zulu] Little boy says "Fix that. Yeah." Zinny says "I'll fix it. Your button was unbuttoned."

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[singing and dancing] We do talk a lot about HIV prevention because we want them to participate.

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It's everybody's responsibility to talk about it--the more they know about it--the more they know what to do

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when they are faced with circumstances where they have to make a decision.

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If you can prevent the children from getting HIV, then you won't be having another generation that we need to be treating.

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[Dr. Walker] What we're challenged with right now, is educating people to make them understand that this is a treatable illness--

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--that there are things that can be done, and getting people into care, getting people tested-

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and helping people become motivated to really do something--that I think gets people around stigma.

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ARV Adherence Training Program

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We call it adherence here, because we are trying to empower patients to feel so much the part of taking medications

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versus compliance, which is the responsibility of a healthcaregiver.

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In our setting, the healthcaregivers do not have a huge role to play, but the patients do.

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So we empower them to take care of their lives and have control,

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and we, as healthcaregivers stand in as a support system.

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Home Visit Program

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What we are trying to bring to people is hope.

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And hope is not a medication.

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It's the human ability to uplift someone else.

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[Boniwe "Mam-T" Thabethe Treatment Warrior in Zulu]

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I've got a feeling for the patient.

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I want to help the patient.

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. . .what HIV is.

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Because I am on ARVs too.

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It gives them hope.

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Some of them when you look at them they are so miserable;

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and you tell them "No, don't worry, I'm also taking some."

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They change.

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All of a suden you'll see that the person becomes happy.

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You could see on their face, "Oh, she's fine."

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They look relieved . . .when you talk to them.

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If they don't start the treatment early,

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they are to wait in a long queue then for the doctors, for about a month or two.

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Some of them . . . they die . . .

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before theyt even see the doctor for the first time to initiate the drugs.

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[speaking in Zulu]

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Mrs. Thabethe helped me . . .[breathlessly]

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because I was taking so long . . .

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I think they said we were waiting three weeks

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or one month to come to see the doctor.

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We felt there wasn't enough time

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because her CD4 count was going down

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and she was ill. She had TB. . .

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and she had some PCP

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which is an AIDS-defining illness

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which forces us to give them ARVs as soon as possible.

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So how do you feel about Mam-T?

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She looks in at me.

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Every time she phones me

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I like her so much . . .

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[chuckling] Okay, okay. [in Zulu]

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This patient, Zodwa Zondi, passed away nine days after this visit.

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chorus singing

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We live the challenges. We know the challenges of the systems we are working in.

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We need some sort of intervention--some sort of innovative intervention that can allow us to spread our wings.

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chorus singing South African National Anthem

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