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Transcript for Pop!Tech Thomas Friedman

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POP!TECH

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BRINGS TOGETHER

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THE WORLD'S LEADING THINKERS

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TO SHARE INSPIRATION AND IDEAS

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IGNITING CHANGE

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AND UNLOCKING

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HUMAN POTENTIAL

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THIS IS PART

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OF THEIR ONGOING

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CONVERSATION

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POP! TECH

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POP! CAST

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Presented by Lexus Hybrid Drive

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GIVES MORE TO THE DRIVER. TAKES LESS FROM THE WORLD.

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THOMAS FRIEDMAN POP! TECH 2006

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I just got here and I'm really looking forward to this interaction.

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I'm going to talk just for 20 minutes, as we've all been allotted,

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in my columns which is very simple; Why this is not your parents' energy crisis.

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Why what is going on today is something fundamentally new and different

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and really requires us to think about and redefine

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And let me just quickly go through the 7 or 8 reasons I believe this

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is not your parents' energy crisis.

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The first has to do with the fact that we are in a war on terrorism today

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with people funded and fueled by our energy purchases.

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Yes, ladies and gentlemen, we are funding both sides of the war on terrorism.

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How smart is that?

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We're funding the U.S Army, Air Force, Marine Corps, CIA, DIA, NSA,

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with our tax dollars and we fund Islamic Jihad, Hamas, Al Qaeda,

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Saudi Arabia, Iran, and all the charities and institutions that

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support these groups directly or indirectly with our energy purchases.

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We are in a war and we are funding both sides of the war.

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And we often—or we rarely, I should say, connect the dots.

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But every once in a while you can see an event that goes by on the news screen

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that really shows you the degree to which we aren't connecting the events.

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And one of those was a couple years ago--when, in the same week, two things happened.

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The first was our Congress, in its infinite wisdom, rejected any attempt to impose higher CAFE--

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higher mileage standards on auto makers in Detroit.

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And in the same week, down in Cancun, Mexico,

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the World Trade Organization talks collapsed over the refusal

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of the United States, Japan and Europe to reduce their

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subsidies to their farmers so farmers in the developing world

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could grow more and sell their products.

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When I saw those two things happen,

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I said "let's think about what that actually means."

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What that meant was that the fact that we weren't improving

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our CAFE standards, we would make ever-increasing transfer payments--

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via Exxon, and Chevron, and Shell-to Saudi Arabia which would make

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ever-increasing transfer payments to various Saudi mosque charities and madrassahs.

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And one of those charities would build a madrassah somewhere

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in the Muslim world, somewhere like Pakistan in a village in Pakistan.

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Now the same week, by virtue of the fact that we refused to make any compromise

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on our vast subsidy to our cotton farmers--

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and other farmers, not to mention the Europeans and Japan,

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we ensured that somewhere out there in the developing world,

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a cotton farmer somewhere--say in Pakistan just went bankrupt.

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Now our cotton farmer has 2 sons.

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He sends them both to the local madrassah that was just built

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down the street because they serve a hot lunch every day

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and the public school's completely broken down.

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Madrasah curriculums are as simple as almost all religious study courses

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—no technology, no real science and 1 poli sci course—a very short course.

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And the poli sci course says that all your troubles

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are because of America, Israel, and Jews—a very short course.

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Now one day one of the sons of our Pakistani cotton farmer

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decides to join the jihad in Afghanistan against the United States.

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And one day one of your sons in US Special Forces, kills him.

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And we think we're winning the war on terrorism. Not a chance.

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So the first reason this is not your parents' energy crisis is because

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our consumption of energy, both the scale and the nature of it,

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is fundamentally related to the geopolitical predicament we're in.

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Second reason this is not your parents' energy crisis is that

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the world is flat.

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The world is flat and 3 billion new consumers called India, China

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and the former Soviet Empire--opened up and walked onto the playing field.

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And when did they arrive?

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Just when it has been flattened.

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Just when they could plug and play, compete, connect,

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and collaborate with your kids and mine, more efficiently, cheaply than ever before.

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And they all arrived with their own version of the American dream—

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a house, a car, a toaster, a microwave, a refrigerator, and a PC—with a printer.

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If we don't find an alternative to fossil fuels to power their future,

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we're going to burn up, choke up, heat up, and smoke up this planet

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when it's flat, so much faster than even Al Gore predicts.

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And that leads to the third reason this is not your parents' energy crisis

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and that is that clean power--green technology--

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is going to be THE growth industry of the 21st century.

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It is going to be THE growth industry.

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Mom and Dad tell your kids, if you want to be sure of a good upper middle class job,

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go in to green design, green manufacturing, green consulting, green services.

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This is going to be THE growth industry of the 21st century.

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It has to be—or there is going to be no planet.

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And what that means to me is that China is going to go green.

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But China is going to go green because China can't breathe.

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China's growing at 10% and is giving back at least 2% now every year--

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in the form of lost work days, gridlock traffic, air pollution, ill health of workers.

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So China is going to have to go green.

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And I think green China? Green China is going to be an even

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bigger challenge for us than red China.

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Because when China goes green, China's going to go green

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on the basis of low cost, scaleable, green technologies.

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If these technologies aren't low cost for the Chinese market, they won't scale.

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And if they don't scale, they will not have an impact.

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And so China, I believe, is poised to become, I think, a major green innovator.

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Maybe you caught the front page story in the Wall Street Journal last week about SunTech Power holdings.

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The richest man in China today is a solar power engineer.

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If you enjoyed importing all your hybrid engines from Japan,

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if you loved having to import all your wind turbines from Denmark--

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you're going to love what you have to import from China.

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There's only one way—only one way for us to confront that challenge.

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And that is with government regulation--that doesn't rig the market, doesn't fix the market--

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but sets broad, clear, and stringent guidelines on American mileage standards--

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China's mileage standards today are already more severe than our own.

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--mileage standards, appliance standards, and power generation standards—

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like California is doing today.

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Like a state--a state--like Texas did--

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--in 1999 with the Texas Renewable Energy Standard--told the local electric companies,

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"You guys are going to have to produce 2,000 megawatts a year of renewable energy by the year 2009.

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They all protested, "No way! No how!"

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But that visionary Texas Governor said, "You will do it and I'm signing this."

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Who was that man? [audience laugher]. Who was that man?

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That man's name was George W. Bush.

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If only—if only President Bush could meet Governor Bush [audience laughter].

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The reason--a year after the President told us that we are addicted to oil--

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and his government has done nothing of significance to address that deficit, that problem--

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is precisely because there's a huge fight in this administration

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between what I would call market fundamentalists who say, "Just let the market work"—

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--led by Dick Cheney. "See the market's working, the price of oil just went down."

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And those who understand—those who understand that the role of

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government is to set broad standards, tough guidelines,

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and then let the market achieve them.

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The fourth reason that this is not your parents' energy crisis

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has to do with the slide. Could you key the slide?

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Let's get out of the way here for a second. I'll explain this.

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I posited this in an article in "Foreign Policy Magazine" a couple months ago.

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I call it the first law of petropolitics.

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And the first law of petropolitics states that the price of oil and the pace of freedom operate in an inverse correlation.

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As the price of oil goes up, the pace of freedom goes down.

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And as the price of oil goes down, the pace of freedom goes up

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--in what I call petrolist or petroauthoritarian countries.

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Petrolist or petroauthoritarian countries are countries that are

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highly dependent on oil for their GDP and have very weak institutions.

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Norway is not such a country but, obviously, Venezuela, Saudi Arabia, Angola, Equatorial Guinea are.

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Now, basically--I illustrated this--what I did was I plotted the price of oil from 1979 to the present, on 1 graph

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and then I overlaid on it for--Nigeria, Russia, Venezuela, Saudi Arabia--

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the Freedom House Freedom Index for these countries.

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And what you see is roughly this graph.

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1979 price of oil skyrocketed—you know—with the Iranian revolution.

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And then it slowly started to decline, cratering in 1995--

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With all due respect to Ronald Reagan, who brought down the Soviet Union--

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the price of crude oil, the day the Soviet Union collapsed, hit $16 a barrel.

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That's not an accident.

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Now, basically, as the price of oil went down, the pace of freedom went up.

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So--The Berlin Wall came down in 1989.

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Back in the early 90's Iran was having a free and fair election

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where all kinds of reformers and reformers' parties got elected.

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Reformist journals and magazines were opening and Iran's reformist President was calling for a Dialogue of Civilizations.

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Yeah, $20, $30 a barrel—Iran was calling for a dialogue of civilization.

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At $70 a barrel, Iran is calling for the destruction of Israel and

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declaring that the Holocaust is a myth.

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I can guarantee you, at $20 a barrel, the Holocaust is not a myth. [audience laughter]

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At $30 a barrel George Bush looked into Vladimir Putin's soul--the President of Russia and saw a good man down there.

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At $70 a barrel you look into Putin's soul you'll see Gaspron, Lucos--

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every TV station and newspaper, not to mention government institution, that he's devoured.

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The price of oil and the pace of freedom operate in an inverse correlation.

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This is critically important.

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Because basically what's happened, is that we thought that the fall of the Berlin Wall

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was going to unleash an unstoppable tide of free markets and free people.

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And for about 15 years that was the case.

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But that fall of the Wall coincided with oil at $30 to $40 a barrel.

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As we've moved from a world of $30 to $40 a barrel of oil,

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to a world of $60 to $80 a barrel of oil,

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what's happened is that the fall-of-the-Berlin-Wall-wave

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has suddenly encountered a counter-wave.

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A counter-tide of petroauthoritarian states called Venezuela, Iran, Russia, Angola,

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Saudi Arabia, Equatorial Guinea, Sudan, and all of these states, basically,

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now have petroauthoritarian regimes ensconced in power.

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And this trend of petroauthoritarianism has the potential to completely

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poison geopolitics if we see another 10 years of this.

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Did you follow the debate at the UN a couple weeks ago?

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The UN Security Council wanted to send peacekeeping troops to

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Sudan to stop a massive genocide—a documented genocide.

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Open and shut case. The UN wants to send troops to stop a genocide.

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And guess who blocked it? China. Why?

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Because China owns 40% of the Sudan oil company.

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That's petropolitics poisoning geopolitics in action.

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I'll do a little quiz with you. Which was the first Arab Gulf state to run out of oil?

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Actually, excuse me. Which was the first Arab Gulf state to discover oil?

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The first Arab Gulf state to discover oil was Bahrain,

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a tiny state off the east coast of Saudi Arabia.

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The first Arab Gulf state to run out of oil was Bahrain.

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The first Arab Gulf state to hold a free and fair election,

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where women could run and vote, was Bahrain.

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The first Arab Gulf state to sign a free trade agreement with the United States was--Bahrain.

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And the first Arab Gulf state to completely reform its labor laws—because its people had to work--

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—say it with me now—was [audience laughter] Bahrain.

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This is not an accident, friends.

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The price of oil and the pace of freedom operate in an inverse correlation.

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The last reason this is not your parents' energy crisis is very simple.

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And my host, Bruce Taylor, really helped me think this through.

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It's very simple.

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Google and Yahoo are the China and India of the world of bits and bytes.

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As these companies have to build more server farms--

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these and every other company, every bank, every brokerage firm, every university--

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every time you search on Google, you don't think about it,

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but at the other end of that search, is a little burst of power, a little fan cooling that power--

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Okay? And a little meter reading that power.

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Now I know you heard this morning about the scale of clicking that's going to happen in the world?

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The amount of energy that is going to start to consume as everything moves to the web,

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is going to mean that Google and Yahoo! become to this energy problem the parallel of what the rise in China and India are.

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And if we don't find a way to solve that, we are also not only going to run out of energy,

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but we're going to limit and start to constrict our ability to take avantage of these incredible networks and the power within them.

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To sum it all up, and for all these reasons, friend,

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if you want to know what I'm up to in my column

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I'm really up to trying to redefine green.

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I'm a big believer that in the columnist business

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to name something is to own it.

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If you really want to own an issue, you name that issue.

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The world is flat.

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And the problem with green—the problem with the word green?

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is it was subtly named and appropriated all these years

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by the people who hated it.

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And they named it liberal, girly man, unpatriotic, sissy—vaguely French--

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[audience laughter]

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That's what they did.

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And what I'm all about, in my little slice of this campaign,

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is to rename green, geopolitical, geostrategic, capitalistic, patriotic.

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Green, my friends, is the new red, white, and blue.

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Thank you very much.

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[audience clapping]