Transcript for TEDxHouston - Brené Brown
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So, I'll start with this... a couple of years ago, an event planner called me |
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because I was going to do a speaking event and she called and she said, |
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"I'm really struggling with how to write about you on the little flier." |
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And I thought, "well what's the stuggle?" And she said, "Well, I saw you speak |
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I'm gonna call you a researcher I think but I'm afraid if I call you a researcher no one will come because they'll think you're boring and irrelevant (audience laughter) |
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And, I was like "Okay." And she said, |
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"Well the thing I liked about your talk |
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is that you're a story teller.So I think what I'll do is call you a story teller." |
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And of course the academic, insecure part of me was like- "you're gonna call me a what?" (audience laughter) |
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"you're gonna call me a what?" (audience laughter) |
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And she said, "I'm gonna call you a story teller." And I was like, "Oh, |
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pfft why not magic pixie." (lots of laughter) |
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I was like- |
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"let me think about this for a second." |
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And so, I tried to call deep on my courage |
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and I thought |
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Well, you know I am a storyteller. I'm a qualitative researcher. |
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I collect stories, that's what I do. |
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And maybe stories are just data with a soul. Ya know and maybe I'm just a storyteller. |
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So I said, "You know what? |
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Why don't you just say I'm a researcher/storyteller." And she went, "Ah-ha-ha (imitates loud laugh)! There's no such thing." |
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(audience laughter) |
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So I'm a researcher/storyteller. |
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And I'm going to talk to you today, we're talking about expanded perception |
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And so I want to talk to you and tell you some stories about a piece of my research |
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that fundamentally expanded my perception |
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and really actually changed the way that |
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I live and love and work and parent. |
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And this is where my story starts... |
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When I was young researcher/doctoral student. |
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My first year, I had a |
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research professor who on |
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one of his first days of class said, "Here's the thing- if you cannot measure it, it doesn't exist." |
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And I thought he was just sweet talking me, |
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I was like- "Really?" And he said, "Absolutely." |
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And so you have to understand that I have a Batchelors in Social Work, a Masters in Social Work and I was getting my PhD in Social Work. |
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So my entire academic career was surrounded by people who kind of believed the whole "life's messy, love it." |
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And I'm more the "life's messy, clean it up." (audience giggles) |
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"Organize it and put it into a bento box." (more laughter) |
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And so to think I had found my way, found a career |
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that takes me... you know one of the big sayings in social work is "lean into the discomfort of the work" |
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and I'm more "knock discomfort upside the head and move it over and get all A's." That was my mantra. (audience laughs) |
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So I was very excited about this and so I thought, this is the career for me because I am interested |
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in some messy topics but I want to be able to make them, not messy. |
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I want to understand them. I want to hack into these things |
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that I know are important and lay the code out for everyone to see. |
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So where I started was with connection. |
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Because by the time you're a social worker for ten years what you realize is |
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that connection is why we're here. |
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It's what gives purpose and meaning to our lives. |
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It doesn't matter whether you talk to people who work in social justice and mental health and abusive and neglect. |
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That connection, the ability to feel connected, is neurobiologically how we're wired. That's why we're here. |
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So I thought, "I'll start with connection." |
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Well you know that situation where you get an evaluation from your boss... |
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And she tells you 37 things that you do really awesome and one thing that you kinda, ya know the "opportunity for growth"? |
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(audience laughs) |
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And all you can think about is that "opportunity for growth," right? |
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Well, apparently this is the way my work went as well. |
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Because when you ask people about love |
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They tell you about heartbreak. |
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When you ask them about belonging, |
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They'll tell you about the most excruciating experiences of being excluded. |
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And when you ask people about connection, |
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The stories they told me were about disconnection. |
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So very quickly (about six weeks into my research), I ran into this unnamed thing |
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that absolutely unraveled connection. In a way that I didn't understand or had never seen. |
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And so I pulled back out of the research and said, "I need to figure out what this is." |
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And it turned out to be shame. |
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It turned out that -and shame is really easily understood as the fear of disconnection- |
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is there's something about me that if other people know it or see it, that I won't be worthy of connection. |
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The things I can tell you about it is: - it's universal, we all have it. |
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The only people who don't experience shame have no capacity for human empathy or connection. |
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- No one wants to talk about it and the less you talk about it, the more you have it. |
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What underpinned this shame, this "I'm not good enough" - which we all know that feeling, that "I'm not _____ enough, I'm not thin enough, |
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rich enough, smart enough, promoted enough"... |
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The thing that underpinned this was, this excruciating vulnerability. |
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This idea of "in order for connection to happen, we have to allow ourselves to be seen," really seen. |
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And you know how I feel about vulnerability, I HATE vulnerability. |
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And so I thought, this is my chance to beat it back with my measuring stick. |
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I'm going in. And I'm gonna figure this stuff out, I'm gonna spend a year. |
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I'm gonna totally deconstruct shame, I'm gonna understand how vulnerability works and I'm gonna outsmart it. |
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So I was ready and I was really excited! |
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As you know it's not going to turn out well. (laughter) |
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(more laughter) You know this. |
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I could tell you a lot about shame but I'd have to borrow everyone else's time. |
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But here's what I can tell you it boils down to... |
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-and this may be one of the most important things I've learned in the decade of doing this research- |
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My one year turned into six years, |
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thousands of stories, hundreds of long interviews, focus groups -at one point people were sending me their journal pages, their stories- thousands of pieces of data in six years. |
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And I kinda got a handle on it, I understood what shame is, how it works. |
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I wrote a book, I published a theory but something was not okay. |
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And what it was, was that if I roughly took the people I interviewed, |
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and divided them into people who really have a sense of worthiness (that's what this comes down, a sense of worthiness), |
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they have a strong sense of love and belonging. |
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And then the folks who struggle for it, the folks who are always wondering if they're good enough... |
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there was only one variable that separated the people who had a strong sense of love and belonging, and really struggle for it, and that was |
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the people who have a strong sense of love and belonging, believe that they are worthy of love and belonging. That's it. |
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They believe they're worthy. |
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And so to me, the hard part of the one thing that keeps us out of connection is our fear that we're not worthy of connection |
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was something that personally and professionally I felt like I needed to understand. |
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So I took all of the interviews where I saw worthiness, saw people living that way, and just looked at those. |
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What do these people have in common? |
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I have a slight office supply addiction...that's another talk (laughter). |
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So I had a manila folder and a sharpie and I was like, "What am I going to call this research?" |
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And the first words that came to my mind were "wholehearted." |
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These are kind of wholehearted people living from this deep sense of worthiness. |
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So I wrote at the top of the manila folder and I started looking at the data. |
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At first in this very intense, four day long analysis, where I went back and pulled all these interviews, stories asking - "What's the theme? What's the pattern?" |
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My husband left town with the kids (audience laughs) because I always kinda going into this Jackson Pollock crazy thing. |
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Where I'm just writing and just in my researcher mode. |
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And so here's what I found... |
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What they had in common was a sense of courage. |
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And I want to separate courage and bravery for you for a moment. |
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Courage, when it first came into the English language (it's from the latin word - cour, meaning heart), the original definition was to tell the story of who you are with your whole heart. |
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And so these folks, very simply, had the courage to be imperfect. |
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They had the compassion to be kind to themselves first |
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and then others and as it turns out we can't practice compassion with other people if we can't treat ourselves kindly. |
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And the last was that they had connection- and this was the hard part- as a result of authenticity. |
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They were willing to let go of who they thought they should be |
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to be who they were, which you absolutely have to do for connection. |
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The other thing that they had in common was this- |
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they fully embraced vulnerability. |
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They believed that what made them vulnerable, made them beautiful. |
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They didn't talk about vulnerability being comfortable nor did they talk about it being excruciating as I had heard earlier in the shame interviewing. |
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They just talked about it being necessary. |
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They talked about the willingness to say "I love you" first. |
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The willingness to do something where there are no guarantees. |
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The willingness to breathe through waiting for the doctor to call after their mammogram. |
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The willing to invest in a relationship that may or may not work out. |
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They thought this was fundamental. |
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I personally thought that this was betrayal. |
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I could not believe that I'd pledged allegiance to research, where (in our job) the definition of research is to control and predict. |
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Study phenomena for the explicit reason to control and predict. |
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And now my mission to control and predict had turned up the answer that the way to live is with vulnerability. |
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And to stop controlling and predicting. |
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This led to |
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a little breakdown (audience laughs) |
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which actually looked more like this - |
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(more laughter) |
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And it led to what I called a breakdown and my therapist calling a "spiritual awakening." |
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(more laughter) |
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Spiritual awakening sounds good but I assure you it was a breakdown. |
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I had to put my data away and go find a therapist. |
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And let me tell you something, you know who you are when you call you friends and say, "I think I need to see somebody. Do you have any recommendations?" |
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Because about five of my friends were like, "Woooh I wouldn't want to be your therapist." (uproars of laughter) |
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"What is that?" "You know, I'm just sayin'- don't bring your measuring stick." (more laughter from audience) |
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(continues to laugh). And so I found a therapist. |
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And in my first meeting with her, Diana, I brought in my list of how the wholehearted live. |
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And she sat down and said, "How are you?" |
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And I said, "I'm okay, I'm great." And she said, "well what's going on?" |
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And this is a therapist who sees therapists because we have to go to those because their B.S. meters are good. |
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(laughter) |
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And so I said, "here's the thing, I'm struggling." And she said, "what's the struggle?" |
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And I said, "I have a vulnerability issue." |
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And I know that vulnerability is the core of shame and fear and our struggle for worthiness |
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but that it's also the birth place of joy, creativity, belonging, love |
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and I think I have a problem and I need some help." |
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"But here's the thing, no family stuff, no childhood shit, (audience laughs), I just need some strategies. (more laughter) |
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Thank you. |
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So then she goes like this [nods head up and down]. |
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"It's bad right?" And she said, "it's neither good nor bad." |
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(laughter) It just is what it is. |
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And I said, "Oh my God, this is gonna SUCK!" (laughter) |
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And it did and it didn't. And it took about a year. |
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And you know how there are people who when they realize that vulnerability and tenderness are important? |
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A) That's not me and B) I don't even hang out with people like that. (audience laughs) |
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For me it was a year long street fight. (laughter) |
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It was a slugfest. Vulnerability pushed, I pushed back. |
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I lost the fight but I won my life back. |
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Then I went back into the research and spent the next few years really trying to understand what they, the "wholehearted", what the choices they were making |
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and what are we doing with vulnerability? Why do we struggle with it so much? Am I alone in struggling with vulnerability? |
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No. |
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So this is what I learned... |
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We numb vulnerability. |
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When we're waiting for the call, when we're waiting... |
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You know it was funny, on Wednesday I put something out on twitter and facebook that said, "how would you define vulnerability/what makes you feel vulnerable?" |
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And in an hour and half I had 150 responses. Because you know I wanted to know... |
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You know, what's out there? |
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"Having to ask my husband for help cuz I'm sick and we're newly married." |
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"Initiating sex with my wife." |
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"Initiating sex with my husband." |
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"Being turned down." "Asking someone out." |
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"Waiting for the doctor to call back." "Getting laid off." |
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"Laying off people." |
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This is the world we live in. |
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We live in a vulnerable world. |
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And one of the ways we deal with it is we numb vulnerability. |
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And I think there's evidence. And it's not the only reason this evidence exists but it's a huge cause. |
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We are the most in debt, |
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obese, |
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addicted and medicated adult cohort in U.S. history. |
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Why? The problem is, and I learned this from the research... |
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is that you cannot selectively numb emotion. |
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You can't say, "here's all the bad stuff- vulnerability, here's grief, shame, fear, disappointment- I don't want to feel these. |
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I'm gonna have a few beers and a banana nut muffin. |
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(laugher) I don't wanna feel these! |
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And I know that's knowing laughter, I hack into your lives for a living (more laughter). That's "ah-ha-ha God!" |
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(more laughter) You can't numb those hard feelings without numbing the other affects. You cannot selectively numb. |
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So when you numb those, we can't numb without numbing joy. |
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We numb gratitude, we numb happiness. |
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And then, we are miserable and we're looking for purpose and meaning |
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and then we feel vulnerable and so we look for a couple of beers and a banana nut muffin. And it becomes this dangerous cycle. |
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One of the things that I think we need to think about is- why and how we numb. |
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And it doesn't just have to be addiction. |
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The other thing we do is make everything that's uncertain, certain. |
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Religion has gone from a belief in faith and mystery to certainty. |
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"I'm right, you're wrong. Shut up." |
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That's it. The more afraid we are, the more vulnerable we are, the more afraid we are. |
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Look at politics today, there's no discourse any more, there's no conversation. There's just blame. |
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You know how blame is described in our research? "A way to discharge pain and discomfort." |
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We perfect. |
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Now let me tell you, if there's anyone who wants to have their life look like this, it would be me. But it doesn't work. |
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Because what we take fat from our butts and put it into our cheeks. |
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(laughter) |
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Which doesn't work! I hope in a hundred years people will look back and go, "Wow." (more laughter) |
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And we perfect, most dangerously, our children. |
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Very quickly, let me take you through this... Children are hard-wired for struggle when they get here. |
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When we hold those perfect little babies in our hands, our job is not to say, "Look at him/her, their perfect." |
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"My job is just to keep her perfect and make sure she makes the tennis team by 5th grade and gets to Yale by 7th grade." |
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That's not our job, our job is to look and say, " You're imperfect and hard-wired for struggle but you are worthy of love and belonging." |
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That's our job. Show me a generation of kids that grows up like that and we'll end the problems that we see today. |
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We pretend that what we do doesn't have an effect on people. |
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We do that in our personal lives, corporate (whether it's a bail out or an oil spill), a recall. |
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We pretend like what we're doing doesn't have a huge impact on other people. |
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I would say to companies- "this isn't our first rodeo, people." |
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We just need you to be authentic and real and say - "we're sorry, we'll fix it." |
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But there's another way... and I'll leave you with this. |
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And this is what I've found- to let ourselves be seen, deeply seen, vulnerably seen. |
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To love with our whole hearts even though there's no guarantee. |
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And that's really hard, I can tell you as a parent, it can be excruciatingly difficult. |
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To practice gratitude and joy |
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in those moments of terror when we're wondering "Can I love you this much? Can I believe in this as passionately? |
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Can I be this fierce about this?" Just to be able to stop and instead of catastrophizing about this say- "I'm just so grateful." |
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"Because I'm alive, because to feel this vulnerable means I'm alive." |
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And the last, which I believe is most important, is to believe that we're enough. |
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Because when we work from a place that says "I'm enough" then we |
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stop screaming and we start listening. |
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We're kinder to the people around us and we're kinder and gentler to ourselves. |
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That's all I have. Thank you. (applause) |