Some people have written to us and have said "Look, you're not gonna have a policeman with a gun knocking on the door accompanied by a doctor with a syringe. They haven't got the resources to do that." How actually could they enforce it if they wanted to? How could it happen? What would be the sanctions which they have?" Well, the French government released or circulated to the heads of departments an internal document of 19 pages which outline quite clearly their method and this is what I assume is happening in every country. They are going to setup vaccine centers that are outside hospitals and GPs. Some of these are going to be secure, people are going to be told to ... go there, first of their own free will and then they're going to receive calls or whatever telling them to appear at a certain time and those people who do not come are going to eventually be collected ... and forced to go there. But do the resources exist to actually do that? Because you're talking about transporting and enforcing and rounding up and making contact with hundreds of thousands of people. - And possibly more than that. - Absolutely if so many people refuse, it will be impossible but they are assuming that the vast majority of people will either go their free will or when they get the call from say a police authority telling them to appear or the notification, they will go ... reluctantly but they'll still obey that call. And the number of people, who will actually refuse to go and stay at home when they're informed it's a criminal offense not to go, will be very small. And it will be a criminal offense not to go. However if it turns out that hundreds of thousand or millions refuse to go then they cannot cary through. That's why it's important for every single person to say no and not to go along with it. This is Bill Ryan from project Camelot and I'm here in Vienna on the 8th of september 2009. I happen to be in Vienna 'cause I've just returned from a conference in Poland and I just met Jane Burgermeister who, up until now, has been a figure shrouded in mystery and it's my great pleasure to introduce you visually to the world here by being the first person in the ... the Internet community to have ... to have made a trail to find out, and here I'm gonna make a joke, whether you really exist or not and I can demonstrate to everyone that you truly do. What, may I ask Jane, was your response when you realized that you had an opportunity to, basically to give a message to the world on camera which is what I want to support you in being able to do. Well, thank you Bill for, as I say, taking the trouble to come all the way here and it's a bit of the beaten track here in Vienna, it is however a significant place as it turns out, it is the place where Baxter ... contaminated 72 kilos of vaccine material with live bird flu and so nearly triggered a global pandemic just a few months ago in February, this attempt to trigger a pandemic failed because of the alertness of people in the Czech Republic who detected it in laboratory, by a test. However it has now turned out that Baxter still has at least a large amount of that 72 kilos of bird flu and we have come to a point where we have perhaps a few weeks until the government here in Austria and other governments around the world intend to start injecting people with a so called swine flu vaccine material which we have every reason to fear is going to be a big hazard to our health and has been designed to be a hazard to our health even if it isn't contaminated with the live bird flu virus as it might well be. So ... my message that I want to give to people if I can give any messages is that time is running short, that we all of us now have to recognize the scale of the threat and danger to us individually and collectively and we need to take steps and organize to stop this mass vaccination program ... as soon as possible. And as we were discussing when we were just chatting before we started this video interview, you feel a tremendous sense of urgency, don't you? This is driving you right now. Well, unfortunately, we have seen how in spite of mounting and growing protest in the USA and in Europe, the latest polls show that 29% of the Germans are categorically going to refuse the swine flu vaccine, in spite of all that the governments are pressing ahead relentlessly, WHO is pushing with a tremendous determination this unwanted, unnecessary and dangerous program on us and it's coming in just a few weeks. What's interesting to me is that … we, like you, get reports from all over the world and it's seems that governments in every first world nation and maybe other nations too seem to be preparing in almost like marching in step with this. This is coordinated isn't it? Absolutely, and if you look at the legal framework, they're all following the same legal framework and it's the International Health Regulation of 2005, which give WHO the World Health Organization based in Geneva, the power to control how governments respond to this pandemic which WHO has itself declared, and every country has a more or less identical pandemic plan which hands power over to the World Health Organization which allows the World Health Organization to take over the police and health forces and every country will set up a crisis committee which will determine, you know, what vaccine sent are established what groups are going to be targeted for vaccination and so on. And that is the reason why it's so coordinated and synchronized, because there is a single body behind it, and this is the World Health Organization, the UN and the people who back that, the banking cartel and family dynasty, the Rockefellers and the Rothschild. Now, let's just back up a moment here, and ... for those people watching this video who don't know who you are and why we should be talking here in Vienna. Can you just give a little bit of your background, the things that you shared with me personally, for instance, I didn't even know that you were at the university of Edinburgh and how long you've been in Vienna, what are you doing here ? And just of a little bit of a bio. How did you get to this place? Sometimes I just wake up in the morning and ask myself the same question. How did you get here? Well, my Dad is Austrian and my mother is from Ireland and I was born in Switzerland, and I went to Edinburgh University where I did English literature and language and a bit of philosophy and so on, and I came to Austria in the year 2000, I started working here as a medical journal for a ... or as an editor for a medical journal specializing in diabetes and I quit that of my own free will and started writing for medical ... sort of ... the Reuters Health for the British medical Journal and The Scientist, Nature and so on. So I acquired an understanding of the medical field and how to do research in this area. And then I eventually moved into renewable energy because I believe it's a tremendous potential for humanity. Until one day this winter a neighbor showed me the report, in a local newspaper saying that Baxter had contaminated this vaccine material and 36 people had to go to a hospital to be treated preventatively for the bird flu and then of course I understood that this was a tremendous threat and that because bio-safety level 3 regulations are in place in this sort of facilities, it can't have been an accident. So your ... your experience gained as a medical journalist immediately helped you to realize that something very unusual and important had happened here, is that right ? Absolutely and I also felt confident about doing the research into it and filing charges which I did eventually because of that background I had done quite a lot of work in that field. so I felt confident I could handle it. Okay. Now something which I do want to ask you is that many people have understandably asked the question. "Who is this woman and where does she come from out of nowhere?" and I can resonate with that because people say that about us and people feel sometimes an understandable sense of territoriality. It's like "Wait a minute this is my area" or "Wait a minute I've been researching this for 20 years " or "where is this new comer come from?" Now were you ... conscious of the fact that when you started to write about this stuff, people would be saying: "Who is this person ? I never heard her name before." I have to be honest and say my concern was to try and stop and publicize what I saw as a big crime and threat. I was very concerned that there was no publicity, no action being taken by the Austrian Government and that Baxter could release this material the day after. And it should have been news headlines all over the world. - Absolutely ... - It was underwhelming, wasn't it? - It was underwhelming and that created the risk that they were just going to repeat the same maneuver and a pandemic was going to be ignited and because I myself have come to realize that the media was totally controlled, through my own experience as working in the media. I didn't make to much effort in trying to let the newspapers as I sent a story or a pitch to BMJ the editorial wasn't interested. I wasn't too surprised … - That's the British Medical Journal? - Yes for which I have worked. the Lancet wasn't interested , I've sent it to the Austrian papers and no response. Profile, an austrian magazine actually wrote an article white washing Baxter, despite of all my information, and so as an individual I saw very few opportunities for halting this mechanism or truck that seems to be hurtling towards... you know, unleashing a pandemic. So I filed criminal charges in the hope of putting a spoken wheel and forcing an investigation. I never done that before, and … Did you have professional help in doing that ? Because I wouldn't know how to start filling charges against anybody. Yes.To be honest, a lawyer did tell me I had to file criminal charges and where to go, and so it is the basic laws, so I did get that advice, I… on my mother side of the family there were some lawyers and so my mom too is very good at kind of legal reasoning and stuff like that, and so I decided to give it a shot, you know I've never done it before but I thought I might give it a try, the evidence is there. It's just a question of laying it out, clearly, so that's what I did and the police did start investigating. Is it the police here in Vienna ? - Yes. And my understanding is that three police forces are investigating: the police in Vienna, the police in Korneuburg and the Unit for Protection of the Constitution and Fighting Terrorism was also investigating and I know that for sure because I was summoned there for an interview. However what has alarmed me is the fact that nothing has happened. The government is continuing to press ahead with its program of mass vaccination with these Baxter vaccines. There are no security checks in place to ensure that the material is not contaminated. The situation is such that it might as well.. I might as well never have filled the charges and last week the head of the ... Unit for Protecting the Constitution and Fighting Terrorism was forced to resign it seems and replaced by somebody who appears to be much more loyal to the powers that want this vaccination program to go ahead. The same is true of the Austrian criminal police. The head was replaced by somebody who also has a track record of working for these so called New World Order corporations, and so, I increasingly feel these structures in government are not going to be effective in stopping and halting this danger, and that's why we have to now move towards organized civilian resistance to the vaccines. But you must be encouraged because, parallel with your… metaphorically waking up that morning to realize that "wait a minute, what's wrong with this picture? There is something happening that shouldn't be." A lot of other people all over the world have been... becoming very aware of this and very active. - You must be feeling heartened by that yeah? - Absolutely ! I mean the response has been amazing and exponential. It's just, every day, it's amazing to see the progress and ... Today I heard the Greek police are going to refuse and have officially refused to take the vaccine which is quite a significant milestone. This is the police force which the government rely on to force the Greeks to take a vaccine. because according to polls the Greeks do not want to take the vaccine . So eventually it will come down to the government having to either force them or try to frighten them into taking it by triggering a pandemic and that just one example. Germany, there's enormous resistance so is there in France! Not to mention the USA and increasingly in the UK. Unfortunately my language skills are limited. I don't speak Spanish or any other language. So I'm only able to track em on to what's happening in the countries where I speak a bit of the language which is France, Germany and English speaking countries. I just came back from Poland, where I gave a talk about a whole bunch of stuff including this to a large number of very awake and aware and concerned … people and I was heartened because maybe like yourself I didn't know anything about what was happening in Poland. People are very .. very concerned. They're very aware that there's a problem here. It's being discussed a lot and just now I showed you a document that have been prepared by a Polish, a very highly respected Polish medic saying that this is completely out of order, that shouldn't be happening. The vaccine are likely to be contaminated the whole thing is spurious … and there is evidence that this wave is sort of growing all over the world and some of this has been caused by your own civilian initiative. Now just to back up a little bit. Somewhere down the line and this may seem like quite a long time ago now. You've lost your job probably because of this. Yes I did , I mean ... To be honest now I can't remember when it was but I think it was the end of June beginning of July. I was unceremoniously informed that I was not ... the reports that I have been scheduled to write were not required, and since I've been working there for almost two years without any complaint and no reason was given it was clear to me that this was connected with the fact that I had filled these criminal charges and I also went to the US embassy in Vienna and filled charges with the FBI. In part it was a symbolic gesture because the reputation of the FBI is perhaps not the greatest but ... Those charges that you filled, was it with the FBI or against the FBI ? - Oh no no, with the FBI ! So basically asking the FBI to investigate? - Yes ... - And you filled them at the American embassy in Vienna ? - Yes Ok ... now, some people in America have tried to follow the paper trail and said that they could not find any evidence that these files have been… that these charges have been filled. Is it possible that they never left whatever room it was which you filled them in the American Embassy? Not really 'cause I even sent copies by email to actually various FBI departments because I'm well aware in the mean time that there are within every police structure these people who are obstructing investigations. So my aim was not to just file them physically in the US Embassy but also to spread the word around other FBI departments throughout the USA and I think I sent them to about ten or twelve. I was also showed by an agent working here at the US Embassy that she had sent the physical charges that I filled in the official post or whatever to their Washington headquarters so that was an assurance. And what kind of reference, numbers or records of some kind have you received? No, the FBI has not contacted me. I rang them and they informed me that I would not necessarily get contact from them. And the situation is, the scale of my charges is just monumental... In the sense that it kind of… more or less, alleges that the US government, pharmaceutical companies and banking cartels are operating together to push forward this mass murder program under the guise that offer people the vaccinations. And so... I mean, I would have been amazed if they handled it as a regular kind of complaint and gave it a file number, you know, all the rest of it. It took a while, the Austrian Police to assign a case number to my case too. Ok, the reason behind my question, there is some people who try to follow that trial and they have said that they can not find any evidence that in the American system, they’ve tried to find these things in. That these charges have been found. I just wondered whether there is any answer that you can give to that, in terms of reference number. “This is where you look”, “This is what it says”... No. I can’t do anything but I filled them. I have the evidences that I sent them to the FBI. I have the Emails. And what the FBI did, unfortunately is outside of my control. If they haven't registered, if they haven’t assigned a case number. If they haven't recorded it as it is their duty and requirement to do so, that’s their problem and I’m not responsible for their lapses. And that’s it. Anybody who wants the Email's proving that I also emailed the FBI is very welcome to have them. I think they are even on the web somewhere, so... Ok, to some extent, what you did was almost like a symbolic act. As wel as actually initiating charges, which actually, is not the kind of thing that most people usually take upon themselves to do. It’s quite a valiant David & Goliath action there. But it was symbolic and it is encouraging to a lot of people. Do you feel the people respond to you in that way? Well, I think, you know, there’s been, as you pointed out, a growing recognition that this really is a threat. And there are solid evidence that this is a threat and this is something that I try to lay out in the charges to explain the empirical evidences for my views. So be political, reading through it. See why I reached these conclusions. So can the FBI agents, so can the police and so on... On the other hand, there is no denying at these structures are extremely corrupted and if no investigation is initiated, no case file numbers are assigned, it becomes increasingly clear over time, that, we, the people, cannot reply on these so called Police and Law Enforcement branches to do their job and protect us against the threat. And this is what is becoming inceassingly clear. It’s that they are not doing their job. That the evidence is ended to them. They are not, you know, arresting the people they should be arresting, they are not stopping the hole infrastructure for this mass vaccination program in spite of the dangers, and so, at this point, people are realizing that the justice system and law enforcing system has nothing more to do with justice and law enforcement. And that it’s need to be rebuilt and reconstituted. Indeed, our entire societies need to be reconstituted on the bases of law and order, justice to constitution. If we have to have any hope of a future. Just before we went on camera here, we were talking a little bit about the UFO phenomenon which is something you don’t even pretend in anything about. There is no reason why you should. It’s a different area. And you asked me whether I believed in that kind of information and of course, the answer is that we do, cause we extensively researched it. But there are parallels here that whichever line investigation in one photos in these alternative areas whether it’s alternative Health, cancer curers, free energy The suppression of all kind of these information the Government activities have been taking place for longer than you and I have been here, you find that there is obstruction in the organisation of our governments military intelligence services You find that the citizens, if you try to ask questions, you just are not going to get anywhere. You have to be very dogged. And then, there are all kinds of psychological operations that are mounted against anyone who dare to stand up against Goliath in the way you have done. It’s certainly true, I mean, I was aware of my working within the main Stream media that I it is systematically controlled by a central group who have economic interests with oil and renewable energy or whatever or suppressing the renewable energy but what was new to me was the insight into the extent to which the altenative media is also seem to be controlled. And when I tried to do what I could do, it was file these charges, publicized these charges. I found myself attacked and accused to have not filled the charges, or not existing. All kinds of you know... lies. The people who did it, I knew they were lying because they had the Emails in their possessions which showed that I filled these to the FBI and done my bit. I can't be responsible for what the FBI does. So it became clear to me then, that these people are actually trying to obstruct justice and obstruct the discovery and action against this program. And then they probably have been putting the alternative media, long ago to direct people's attention away from the legislation which allows mass forced vaccination programs. Most people I have spoken to, have never heard of it. They have no idea about the International Health Regulations and about the national pandemic plans that allow this. Somebody I know, even wrote the Austrian Health Ministry recently and inquired about this and was told by, I think a lawyer, or a senior official that there was no way Austrians can be forced to take these vaccination. But this official, obviously hasn't read the national pandemic plan. and doesn't know about the International Health regulations which make it absolutely crystal clear that Austrians in the event of pandemic level 6 emergency declaration, actually have to follow the orders of WHO. The WHO can force people to take vaccinations and also to go to quarantine. So, the extent of the ignorance of people about this vital legislation has astonish me. In fact, I didn't know about that until I did the research. And you would have thought that the alternative media would have been telling people about this for years you know, and informing about this danger? But it seems they have'nt been. It's a big big knowledge gap, here, that has to be filled. There is a lot of items on the interesting agenda list of the alternative media, and to some degree, like any media, they react to up a big story is right now. And they have reacted. And there is a ground swell of awareness and understanding which does seems to be reaching places that it hadn't reach a little while before. So something is definitely moving there, isn't it? Absolutely! The way I see it, in spite of the obstacles, in spite of all these obstructions, the word has got a phenomenal, unbelievable speed which I would have never believed was possible in a million years! It's just being miraculous. kind of... almost inexplicable form of communication to my mind that has just taken place. If we say this is a game, and I don't use that word in a trivial sense. If we say this is a game. How has the game sat up now? What do you think the moves in the game are likely to be? Are the citizens of the world starting to wake up more than was anticipated? What is likely to be the response? Can you think the way that they, whoever "they" is, how are they thinking? What might they do? Well I believe that the speed of the awaking has taken these people by surprise and is making them extremely nervous and worried. And they have put in place this plan for the collapse of the economy in parallel or in synchronisation this mass vaccination program which is design to kill or injure a large number of people. Then I think they have plans for famines and wars and various other things and for moving countries under the control of the WHO and the UN which indeed would be the result of this pandemic declaration and one world government. I don't believe that they are very flexible and can see any way to back down now. So I think that they are pressing ahead. They are even accelerating their efforts to get this vaccine into the population by stealth and secrecy. I think they are going to try and trigger a pandemic by whatever means they can in the next few days, weeks they are going to be putting up in schools as well as injecting into people. There was an incident in Swiss train where vial's of so called swine flu that were supposed to be being transported to the national flu centre exploded on a Swiss train. - Was that avian flu? Swine flu, that was swine flu, yes in April. So we have some glimpses of the methods that there willing to use to spread disease. A very, very curious incident. Why it was being transported on a train at all. and by accelerating this pandemic by making it ever more virulent, they hope to panic people into taking the vaccine which will make it truly disastrous and justify false mass vaccinations. And I think they hope that the hierarchical structures and habit of obedience will be sufficient in the panic and confusion that ensues to see them through this. That's what I think they hope and believe. "The habit of obedience" I love that term. Unfortunately we all of us have to examine ourselves at this point and ask how far have we internalised a habit of deference and obedience that is really not justified and needs to be... We need to regain our sense of our own judgement and reliance on our own judgment and our willingness to stand up against penitently corrupt and criminal authorities and refuse to go along with it and that's why I am now thinking that what we need is actually a kind of organised peaceful revolution so that we can finally take back our governments, restore our legal systems, and our constitutions and rebuild our economies, our health systems, our education system and put these people, responsible for this in jail once and for all so they cannot continue doing this damage to us. Even here in Austria, I think the word is spreading and people are going to refuse. It will be interesting to see how it's going to work out. My hope would be that the movement reaches the point where the non violent refusal will be more than enough to destroy and shatter this plan. Some people have written to us and they have said "Look you're not gona have a policemen with a gun knocking on your door, accompanied by a doctor with a syringe. They haven't got the resources to do that." How actually could they enforce it if they wanted to? How could it happen? What would be the sanctions which they have? Well, the French government released or circulated to the heads of departments an internal document of 19 pages which outlined quite clearly their method, and this is what I assume is happening in every country. They're going to set up vaccine centres that are outside hospitals and GP's. Some of these are going to be secure, people are going to be told to go there. First of their own free will, and they're going to receive calls whatever to appear at a certain time, and those people that do not come are going to eventually be collected and forced to go there. Do the resources exist to actually do that? Because you're talking about transporting and enforcing, rounding up and making contact with hundreds of thousands of people. Absolutely, if so many people refuse it will be impossible, but they are assuming that the vast majority of people will either go of their free will, or when they get the call from say a police authority Telling them to appear or the notification, they will go reluctantly but they will still obey that call. And the number of people who will refuse to go and stay at home, when they are informed it is a criminal offence not to go, will be very small. And it will be a criminal offence not to go. They are assuming that the vast majority of people, when they get a call out of the blue, as is planned in Switzerland, the police go through the registry of people that live in a canton, ring them up and tell them to go to the vaccine centres, that most will do it. And that there will be very few that will need to be collected, by the police. I think they have special pandemic police forces there, they won't be counting too much the regular police to do this, and they anticipate that they can go around and collect those people. However if it turns out hundreds and thousands and millions refuse to go, then they cannot carry it through. And that's why it's important for every single person to say no and not go along with it. So it's a propaganda war, or a propaganda game? Absolutely, absolutely, they don't have the resources. They are relying on people going on there free will to these vaccine centres. And then there relying on just being able to make a call to people telling them it's a criminal offence not to go, putting psychological pressure on people to go, and then they are relying on a very relative small number of people saying no. I'm staying in my home, I'm not going on any account, and waiting for the police to knock on the door and drag them off. And at that point they will have sufficient forces, if a few people do it to go around and collect people from their homes. Now, fear and concern for one's personal safety is great motivator. Are you expecting, just as in 1918 that there's going to be a second wave of the existing swine flu in a mutated form, which really is a problem, accompanied by very alarmist media reports showing people dying in funerals and all of this kind of stuff which is going to scare people lining up for their voluntary vaccination? Absolutely! Its already happening, I think the scientist in Canada have looked at people who have died of the so called swine flu and have found that those people have damage to their lungs which is consistent with them having got the bird flu! And so, how's this explicable? I mean they must have been given the bird flu, so they have been getting it from somewhere. It could have been the kind of contamination of vaccine material that accrued in Austria where vaccine, normal vaccine material was contaminated with the bird flu. So there already starting and trying to trigger this really virulent pandemic. the CDC and WHO have stopped counting or tracking these cases, so we could be seeing a multiplication of these virulent cases already now in the USA or Canada, and at some point the media will focus on it, they will focus on the terrible deaths of these people from holes in their lungs and whatever and at this moment of panic when the vaccine centres are open, people will be saying that those people that said it was the vaccine have got it all wrong, they were lying to you. Its actually the virus that the real danger. And people in this fear and confused state of mind will think maybe it was lies about the vaccine, and then they will rush of and get their vaccine which will then kill them and create an even more virulent virus. Something that I realised just a short while ago was that in order to really introduce something dangerous to large numbers of the population was that they don't have to vaccinate everybody. And just to illustrate the point, if I don't get vaccinated but you do, and so does your friend and then we all meet for dinner to talk about it and I say well I'm alright I haven't been vaccinated, they are standing now cooking in your bodies and I'm gona get it just because we shook hands over dinner. - Absolutely - So they don't have to get everyone right? No, I mean I think that they would also like to use the opportunity to put in people these nano chips. There's mounting evidence that Baxter and so on are planning to put into its swine flu vaccine these nano chips. And certainly WHO has put in place the legal framework and the technical framework to vaccinate everybody, so I think they really are aiming for maximum possible coverage, but to kill people they don't need to vaccinate everyone, they just need to vaccinate enough people to unleash this very virulent pandemic, eventually people just put on their facemask or using colloidal silver. Sensible people will already be thinking of taking these measures If there is any threat of a virus there'll be having their face masks on and boosting their immune systems with vitamin C. - And D3 I believe. - D3 ! So to try and reduce the number of people who survive by taking these measures' I think they would like to get as many vaccinated as possible because this would mean the disease would go straight into your bloodstream and there is nothing you can do basically once it is there. Ok, so what your flagging up here is that there are 2 scenario's going on here. There's the, and this all sounds very black and stark but there's the genocide scenario and the total control scenario and they go hand in hand with each other. - Yes, I believe that's the plan. WHO as I understand has put in place this comprehensive electronic surveillance system already, and as soon as we get our nano chips with all this information about our health from the health insurance associations or whatever, there will be able to track us via satellite, and computer whatever they have, for the rest of our lives even if we survive the pandemic, the vaccination, the wars, the famine and so on. so in this way they will have managed to established a one world government but also a technical structure to control every single one of us on the planet. We've had it told us by a number of insiders, on and off record that this hole structure, just exist already. They got the data bases. They got a lot of information on most people. They are doing this for a reason. This is like the final match that lits the fire. - Yes, he has. So, my question to you is based on what do you know? Cause you must also have people writing to you, presumably confidentially offering information. I've had a few private confidential Emails from people who have been saying they agree with what I'm saying about the bioterrorism charges. But because of their position, they are not able to come out and say that openly. And obviously I don't publish that kind of thing either. But I'm not a gold mine of secret information. The thing it's all out there. It's all out there if you just read the pandemic plans, if you read the International Health Regulation and so on. The reason why the people are mystifying this, is because mainstream media consistently deflects attention from these crucial facts or put a spin on them. Which mislead people about what their nature are like. Saying this pandemic is natural and causes by pigs when It's never been found in pigs. It's not new. The swine flu couldn't in the New England Journal Medicine has been at least, there is an article documenting commenting cases of people since 2005 till 2009, wasn't spreading, wasn't lethal. You know, so... The main stream media is really mystifying, misleading people I know what I'm doing is looking at the facts behind media and bringing them together into relationships.The people can see the bigger pattern. That's it. What's the time scale, do you think from here? This is the 8th of September. And we'll get this out in the next few days if we t possibly can do ? Because time isn't the essence. What do you thing is gonna happen as we roll on towards the new year? Well, I think these few weeks are crucial to our humanity. I believe all the plans are in place to start these vaccination centres from October and, indeed, people are going to be off time of working. Cities like Boston. 2hrs I think unpaid leave to go and get the swine flu jab. Kids are going to be offered it free or whatever. So I think it's going to be done at first to persuade people to take this vaccine. And this, already we have to stop that! We have to make sure the purchase is significantly large. That these vaccine centres do not start injecting children, the gullible, the uninformed whatever, with disease, which can then be transmitted to other children sitting in schools, to their parents, then to the colleagues at work. It's the perfect place to spread it all. In schools. - Absolutely. The army is another place. The soldiers very venerable They seem to be the first one as well to get these mass forced vaccination. So... We don't have a minute to lose. It's going to be too late when the calls finally come through The forced vaccinations demands come through, barring a miracle, you know... So far they have mentioned to spark the very pandemic they hope to. In April, I think they really hope that they had set free of the virus that is going to mutate and become very virulent. And they didn't manage it. May be they won't mention this time neither but the more people they vaccinate the greater the chances are that they will spark a little pandemic. Bear in mind Baxter sent 72kg of life bird flu virus and still in the company's possession. It could be put in the vaccine here! If every Austrian or every third or second Austrian gets it. You know, spread rapidly to Germany to Czech Republic, to Slovenia, To Poland and Will kill many, many people. So... But it's spreads almost instantly nowadays in these days of modern travel, I mean... in 1918, people where travelling by steam ships and it's a lot different now. Yes. And particularly because of schools and, you know Work places and so on.. So I think we don't have that much time. I think they want to, or reckoning with being able to move to forced vaccination toward the end of the year. May be, kind of... you know, gradually... November, December, January But I think we have to stop even the voluntary mass vaccinations. Starting from October. So, what's your message to people here? Because, some people who are watching this think : "Right, I'm gonna get my colloidal Silver and everything else. I'm not gonna get vaccinated thanks to the information. But... is that enough? Well, I personally believe it isn't because we are in a situation here where even if you have colloidal silver and your face mask, your neighbour might get vaccination or you might be in contact with somebody at work so, it's in the interest of everybody to try stick together and do things like protest. outside the vaccine centres, protest to make sure schools stay closed, there's no reason to keep them open, or if kids have to go to these schools they should be given face masks and other sensible measures to protect them in school from these viruses, so I believe that we all should be looking out for each other because ultimately were looking out for our own interests to stop this pandemic from being ignited and gathering speed. However if all your willing to do is take the colloidal silver and the face mask, fine as long as you're willing then, when the order comes for you to take it or to go to quarantine, to resist at that point, or be face with being imprisoned or whatever. At that point I would suggest it's getting a little bit late, you know... How much support are you getting personally? How do you feel? Cause you're like a lonely soldier here fighting this in Austria. Sort of unconnected, at least physically with the rest of the world. What is it that sustains you and keeps you going and gives you the strength to keep on fighting because its not easy is it? Well, I have to say I look at the evidence and I see that there is a real threat also to me. I mean I am also going to be one of the people who could be infected by this pandemic virus, that could be forced to take this vaccination and stamped a criminal if I don't take it, and this is not a very palatable prospect, and it's not exactly how I you know, want to spend my time, ill or sick or prematurely dead from something like this, so I'm not outfaced by self interest, you know as well as the desire to see other people of course freed from this threat, but also.... Do you have a team working with you? Do you feel supported logistically, emotionally, financially? Or is it just really that your just standing alone here in Vienna ? Oh no I mean I have Johan Nicolson in Switzerland that has volunteered to put up my website. - I met him the other day, he's a wonderful man. - Yes he's done great work and put up a wonderful website and a lot of people support and send emails, and reports and information that I put up on my website and so on. Here in Austria there's someone who has an email database of 140,000 emails who's starting to send out information so even the Austrians are getting to hear what's happening. So I certainly feel not alone, however there's no doubt about it that I for example have very little financial resources or whatever and I you know, more or less have to try and scrape by and this limits how effective I can be, I can't cover countries outside of Europe or try and launch the kind of legal action I would have wished to launch, the injunctions in places like Africa or Latin America, no substantial funding has come from any source whatsoever to help in this battle, so it's been individuals sending small, relatively small sums of money, or offering to do things like DVD or whatever that has never the less been very, very important. And your personally contactable, if there's anyone watching this now, who's able to offer material support and there in a position to do that, they can reach you through your website right? Yes if they can just find my email address, I'm certainly very visible. I think for anyone who wants to actually, you know contact me, but so far there has been no foundation or wealthy person or anything like that who has offered support. And I'm not even saying they need to offer me personally support, but there has been no support for any major injunctions or any kind of these legal actions or for the movement as a whole. It really is a grass roots movement and that's a heartening thing to see that it has become very strong in spite of the fact there has been very little support. Well, your work is an inspiration to many other may I say. I think this really is a David and Goliath example that you've given a lot of people here. Are you hopeful, are you optimistic or are you depressed about the whole thing? thinking my god were all about to be wiped out here or do you think that it's just something which is going to work out well but we've got to do a lot of work between now and then. Well, my heart tells me without any doubt that this is going to work out well for humanity, my mind looks at the evidence and I get worried, and you know unfortunately we all have to play our role and it will depend on every single one of us, the structures of government have failed us, they are against us, they are actually turning against us to try and destroy us and it really is up to every single individual now to stand up, say no and organise to remove these structures once and for all and open the way for us, every single person to have a new future of dignity, of freedom where we can enjoy lives free of stress, free of worry as we were meant to enjoy our lives, and open the way for the next generation to have a proper healthy opportunities, sensible working conditions, good education systems and for humanity to begin a new era, free of these monstrous plots against us. Jane Burgermeister thank you. - It's a good one. OK well done, yeah, that was as good as I could have ever hoped it to be, how did you feel? Yeah, yeah I also felt it went very well so...it all seem to be ok Oh yeah, its a rousing speech, everything's fine, the battery worked, errm you can, I cant show you what you look like. - I hope I look ok. - You look actually quite fine. I have a second opinion here, will you confirm for us, this is a disinterested observer. Well because I don't often look so good on camera. - She look nice doesn't she? - -You look very nice Jane. No I can't bear to look, but at the end of the day vanity cannot play a role. Unfortunately the YouTube has to go one looking as I look Bill that's the fact. - And I know that problem Ha, ha - How you speak is heart touching. Yes, but I look bad do I, do I have dark lines under here. No you dont, actually you dont. You look really beautiful ! Usually it works ok if I, if I, it I look better on video than I do usually on... But I can't concern myself with that to be honest, I have to accept that whatever way I look, I look, you know. Only women can say how another woman looks and you look beautiful. (Laughters) I must leave the room. I never look at the video, to be hones I don't, I don't look at the video and you know, I realise I have to try and look ok. I hope you're not still filming all of this Bill. I, just in case in there are any outtakes, sometimes I just get a freeze frame or a little quote, don't worry were not going to do anything against you. But at the same time I am aware that I have to try and present a good image. I do my best and if it looks terrible there's nothing I can do you know... Well, the way it has worked for us is because were so obviously human people actually trust us. We had this wonderful joke, which was actually a serious email that we got from somebody about a year ago who said "I used to think that you were working for the CIA, but your video's are so unprofessional that you can't possibly be otherwise they would be a lot better quality, you know they would buy you more clothes, and buy you a different t shirt you know..so, so there's something. That helps about looking like an ordinary citizen as opposed to anyone. you know some kind of start putting on a polished performance with your autocue here and all this kind of stuff, forget it, were people, and that's the message.