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Transcript for Rebecca MacKinnon: iSummit '08 Keynote Address

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So last week, I attended another conference very different from this one

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that also related to technology

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called the "Fortune Global Brainstorm"

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or "Fortune Technology Brainstorm"

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which was held in Half Moon Bay near Silicon Valley

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and Joey Ito and Larry Leslie were also there; I'm not sure if they're here at the moment.

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Um...but it was full of the CEOs of many of the major internet companies,

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and venture capitalists looking for the next entrepreneur and big thing to invest in,

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and lots of start-up, internet dot-com entrepreneurs

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going around promoting their businesses.

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And what really struck me

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was the extent to which

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pretty much everybody there had such a strong belief

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that just because we have the internet combined with mobile phones,

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and capitalism,

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that the world will ultimately and inevitably become more free -

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that all we need is the internet, mobile, and capitalism,

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and freedom will spread across the globe as a result

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uh, and thanks to the benevolence of these great entrepreneurs.

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And this, uh, soon after the conference

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I happened to be reading the blog of, uh, Danny O'Brien from the Electronic Frontier Foundation,

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who was pointing out what he called the "benevolent dictatorship" of Silicon Valley,

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and warning of the dangers of relying too much on the Web 2.0 giants,

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and the Googles, the Facebooks, Gmail, and all of these fabulous services

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and that so much of our lives, both personal and professional, and our identities,

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are being wrapped up in these services.

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And it's as if we were conceding on the political level

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that we're just allowing benevolent dictatorshi--, benevolent dictators to run our lives

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and not insisting on greater participation, autonomy, and so on.

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And, so, this was, at this conference,

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at the Fortune Technology Brainstorm,

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there were a few of us who kept trying to point out

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well, mobile and internet and capitalism -

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you know, maybe it depends on how these things are implemented,

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uh, whether or not people are going to be more free, or less free.

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Uh, maybe, maybe there're some details that need to be considered,

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and actually on one of the panels, Joey actually made a comment that,

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he said that sometimes venture capital is irresponsible,

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and that there are business models out there that actually result in the internet being less free,

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and that people, in doing business and rolling out their great Web 2.0 services, need to think about that.

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And Vince Serf, one of the fathers of the internet,

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got up and accused Joey of being a "venture communist."

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So, speaking of communism,

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I actually have spent a lot of time in China.

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I first went to China as an 8-year-old in 1978

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(now you know exactly how old I am),

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and I've spent a lot of time over the past 30 years

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living, studying, and working in China.

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And when I first got to China,

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the way that information, media, and speech was controlled

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was pretty much entirely according to the "Mao model."

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Uh, so, so you have heavy censorship, heavy state control,

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and also a very strong sort of political connect--, correctness being enforced.

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But over the past 30 years, China has gotten much more capitalist;

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it's opened up to the outside world,

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and increasingly China is moving towards what I like to call the "Murdoch model,"

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but you could call it the "Time Warner model" or anything else.

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And increasingly China is allowing media and internet companies

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not to be uh, just state-controlled,

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but to be acting according to market forces and demand for information,

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supply and demand and all that.

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But actually, the people who control Chinese information and media policy

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are encouraging the development of large media and technology companies

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and are not finding this to be in any way in conflict with the regime's survival.

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And this, this is something to think about -

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why that might be the case.

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Um, one of the other assumptions that we often get in the West,

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in the western media,

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and also amongst many people involved with international technology policy,

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is this assumption that we have

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un-free countries, the authoritarian autocracies, dictatorships on one hand,

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and the democratic countries on the other hand.

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And there's, there seems to be an assumption

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that the un-free world is eventually going to come over here to meet the free world.

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Uh, but is that necessarily the case?

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Or might we actually meet in the middle -

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if we just kind of let things float along happily?

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Uh, and, so that's something we need to be thinking about

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and how the free culture movement might be able to have some influence on where we're going.

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There's also the issue of, just by having the internet, just by having technology,

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just by having the free flow of information,

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um, and large media companies,

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we're not solving the caring problem.

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I think at the beginning when the Internet first got going, when the web first got going,

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people were hoping that we would have this big global conversation,

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that barriers would come down,

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and people in Africa and people in the United States

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would, would be able to talk to one another and understand each other better

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just because we had the Internet.

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But what we're finding is that information flows and media flows

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still very much favor the wealthy, developed countries or the powerful countries,

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and that if you come from a country that has neither economic nor military power,

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you're very likely not to have your concerns or voices heard.

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And so this is part of some media attention research done by a former colleague of mine, Ethan Zuckerman,

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who also co-founded Global Voices with me,

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where he tracked a lot of different English language,

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global English language new sources.

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And very consistently -

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this is for Google News but it's a very similar picture

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when you look at a lot of English language news sources -

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the red represents countries that have lots of stories about them in English

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available on the Internet.

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And the more blue and white you get, the fewer stories there are.

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And, actually when you map the blogosphere against that,

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you find that, that it's actually even more polarized

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in the English language blogosphere than it is in the mainstream media.

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And so, just to give an example,

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what, as a result, if for instance on a given day on CNN.com,

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he found that there were over 12,000 stories that he could find on CNN.com about Japan,

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but only about 900 stories about Nigeria,

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which has a similar population.

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And so as a result, because of market forces, because of demand,

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because of what people profess to care about,

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um, the, the media basically is making a judgment

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that Japanese people have much more value than Nigerians.

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And so, one attempt to try and address this imbalance

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that the Internet has not been addressing just on its own by existing

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was Global Voices.

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And, uh, basically this idea that there are actually people blogging from Nigeria,

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and telling us all kinds of things that we can't read in the newspaper,

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but how do you find these people?

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So we developed a community of people who are curating

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the global Internet

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with a focus on the developing world and the non-West

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to help amplify the voices that are not sort of naturally being amplified

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on the Internet or through mainstream media,

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but even through just kind of the distributed blogosphere on its own.

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And this is all, of course, only possible because of

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open-source software, because of free blogging services,

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because of the culture of sharing

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in which people are posting things,

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re-posting it,

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and creating a commons, an information commons,

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that is not based on profit motive,

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but rather based on the incentive to, to get information out,

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and to share knowledge about what's happening in different countries.

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And so you have all kinds of different projects springing up around the world.

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Ushahidi from Kenya is one of them,

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in which bloggers are, have been mapping incidents of violence

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and various other things taking place

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that their media has not been reporting very well,

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and the international media has been reporting even worse,

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uh, and again taking matters into their own hands

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to get the information out,

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not through any commercial motive,

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but just trying to get that information out.

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But we find that we need to add another layer

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on top of that,

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to amplify this,

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if we want people beyond Kenya to even know that this is happening.

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And that layer, we have not been able to come up with any kind of commercial model

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that would enable that amplification to happen,

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that has really had to have been according to a

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non-profit and free culture-oriented model.

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But we've found that doing that alone

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has not been enough.

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We've been having to get very quickly into advocacy,

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because just encouraging people to speak,

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just encouraging people to share information, to share their creativity,

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doesn't get very far if people are going to jail when they start doing that.

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And so increasingly we've had to set up an advocacy arm,

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in which we call attention when people get arrested,

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and these are just two examples of two bloggers from the Middle East

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who were arrested this year,

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but there are many people around the world.

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And also, this question of

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increasingly, blogs are being blocked,

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and, uh, open-source resources,

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free resources that people have for sharing information online

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are being blocked by governments

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and sometimes other powerful entities,

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and that people can't get their message out.

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And so we're having to also build

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a support network to help people get around censorship

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and also have tools for anonymity and so on.

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But we're also having this problem where

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because people are blocked from using global, international tools

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in some countries, such as China,

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what happens is that people rely on domestic tools.

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And so in China there are a lot of domestic blog-hosting companies.

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But what's happened is

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the companies are required to assist the government

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in censorship.

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So, in this example here,

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I attempted to post an item about

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a demonstration that happened a few months back

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and I couldn't even publish it

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because I got an error message telling me

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"This article contains sensitive content;

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please check it and try again."

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So, you know, you can't even, in some cases even

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get stuff on the web to be viewed by people in your community

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using commercial tools,

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and then they can't really use the

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open-source international tools very easily, either,

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because they're blocked

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and not enough people they want to reach

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are using proxy servers to access that content.

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We also have a lot of privacy and surveillance issues;

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Xe Taos, a Chinese journalist, went to jail for 10 years

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after sending an email to an overseas website

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about a political story.

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There are four Chinese dissidents who've gone to jail

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because of political communications

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that they sent through Yahoo! China

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and Yahoo! China, whose servers are in mainland China,

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was compelled to hand over that information

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in response to a criminal investigation.

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So this is a real problem where people

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are turning to these global companies

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for services and finding that

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the extent to which they can trust them is limited.

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Now, to be fair, Google, which runs Gmail,

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has decided not to host its email service in China

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in order to avoid having to hand over information in response to a domestic Chinese court order

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But again, this is a problem because

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because what then happens is that

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Chinese, a lot of people I know in China who are

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basically trying to figure out how to use more secure email

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and they use Gmail with https

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so that they can send things a bit more securely.

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They figure that they're less afraid of Homeland Security

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getting their data in the United States

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than they are of the Chinese police.

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But what happens if Gmail gets blocked?

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They don't have any alternatives.

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And so this is the danger of people relying too much on

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a couple of concentrated sources.

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Where do they turn when those things get blocked?

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And so we have this problem, we have...which is really a global problem.

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We have users on one hand relying very heavily on company services, company-run services,

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and then governments putting pressure on those companies

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to do things that go against our rights and interests.

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And this is not just a China problem;

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this is not just an authoritarian country problem;

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it's very much a global problem.

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We have this problem in the United States recently with secret surveillance program

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and pressure being put on American telecoms companies to spy on citizens,

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and I know there are a lot of issues in Europe

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and in countries that consider themselves democratic as well.

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Um...so, there are some people involved with, with free culture, with the free culture movement,

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like Jimbo Wales, founder of Wikipedia.

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Um, he has made it very clear Wikipedia is not going to censor itself.

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It's not going to compromise.

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As a result, it's blocked in China, blocked in many places.

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Um, and he's also said with his new open search engine, Wikia,

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he's not going to censor that.

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Um, he can afford to, to do this, to not compromise

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because he is not pressured by shareholders to maximize his profits

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in the world's largest markets that may not be very democratic.

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Um, so he can afford to take that commercial loss

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because his, his primary focus is not commercial.

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But, then on the other hand, there are people in China who say,

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"Well now we can't access, we can't benefit from, from Wikipedia at all."

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And so this is again part of the problem with having -

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We need free culture, we need the, the non-profit spaces

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that are not driven to compromise by market reasons,

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but if they are really centralized and concentrated,

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then are large numbers of people denied the benefits?

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And so one thing that we're seeing emerge in places like China

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are grassroots P2P networks.

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There's something called the "Social Brain Foundation,"

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which is, which is a small organization run by a blogger named Isaac Mao

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and a group of other bloggers.

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And they're basically trying to develop open-source tools

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um, and smaller communities to help people

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basically share information around across a loose network of platforms.

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There's also a group called "Digital Nomads"

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that is, is helping people to set up blogs

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um, in ways that it's, it's harder to block more independently.

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Um, and they've found that being centralized or having a big organization

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doesn't work; it has to be very loose and shifting

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and, and so on in, in, in order to work.

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Um, but we need more non-profit alternatives everywhere.

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Youtube, increasingly, is being not only blocked but,

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um, Youtube has agreed to censor content

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in a number of countries,

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uh, and some human rights activists have had problems

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with their content being taken down

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on Youtube because for whatever reason

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they were violating some agreement.

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Um, and so we do need more non-profit alternatives,

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but again, we're, they're going to need to be decentralized

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if people are going to be able to, to make use of them

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in many different countries.

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Um, so this is why we need

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these alternative spaces - we need free culture communities.

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We need civil society,

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Uh, we need strong, uh, and vibrant but,

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but sometimes loosely distributed

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uh, communities who can work together

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to help make sure that we have spaces

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where dissenting voices, where minority voices

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can continue to be heard,

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can continue to, to be amplified

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um, so, so that information environments around the world

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are not too homogenous.

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And, and so really going from Mao to Murdoch,

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that's not the end of the story.

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Uh, the, the global story, the way it's told often, I think,

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by a lot of analysts and pundits and, and, and so on on

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is, you know, "The world has gone from communism to capitalism

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and that's great, and now we're free, and yay!"

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Uh, but we've got this other layer on top of it which we're building

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which is the commons, which is the free culture movement.

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And it's very important.

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And this is why I think the work of iCommons,

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the work of Creative Commons,

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the work of many different organizations in this space is so important,

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and why I hope that iCommons and the community around iCommons

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will continue to thrive and help encourage the growth

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of many strong and vibrant free culture communities all around the world.

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Thank you.