Jacque Fresco-Dec. 28, 2010-Can't Exceed Your Environment
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There's not enough feeling or emotion in what Jacque says. That's true, there isn't. But if you're emotionally attached to something, it means you're subjective. There are people that nail pieces of wood together, then they kiss it, before that, they don't kiss it. Till you nail it so it looks like a cross, then you kiss it. You know what I mean? So, what was the day before it was a cross? 2 pieces of wood, or some copper that wasn't cast in a form of a cross. And a cross is a crucifix which was long before people wore it, it was to crucify people, so it was a symbolic, depending on what culture you come from. That's why I can't accept anything except the sciences - the shape of an airplane wing is designed for a certain lift. The shape of the plane is designed for certain conditions. So, you can't - when I say you can't exceed your environment, that means you can't exceed what you've been exposed to. You can't, if somebody gave you a brand new microscope, and you said the objective lenses are insufficient. If you're a cannibal, you know what I mean? If you give a cannibal a watch. He doesn't look at it and say, "the gears are not precise, they're 10,000th of an inch off" - he can't say that. That's what I mean by a person can't exceed their environment. If you got in an airplane if you're able to, you know, 2000 years from now, a guy might look at our plane and say "I'll never get into that crate." Our airplanes would come through as a crate, or something else. But certainly, if you're born 2000 years from now, you couldn't have same values and survive. The nation that can't exceed it's own environment will be surpassed. Do you know what that means? Another country will surpass us. If China can't get passed where they're at, if they stop and just take in manufacturing and don't go into automation and modification, they will remain. There are many nations out there that are so primitive they do things the way they did a thousand years ago, and that's up the Amazon river. The natives build rafts the same way they did a thousand years ago, no change. They bond a bundle of read together, tie it all together, cause that's all they ever see, they never leave the area. So if you say "they're stupid" - no they're not, they live in a fixed environment, where things are fairly uniform and not enough change. They don't have visitors from other tribes that bring them other things, otherwise they might be brought up to hate other tribes or they might be brought up to trade. The nations that trade undergo change, cause they meet people that are different, and they get things that are different. No nation all developed a vase. If a nation developed a vase and you're nation didn't, and they show you how they carry water, orange juice around, you don't have any means of doing it except this way, so you undergo change. The more nations that meet and share ideas, not just meet, if they share ideas they undergo modification. But if my people undergo too much modification, I can't control them, so I put a fence around my country and keep out foreign ideologies. Or if books that come into my country that change people, so I can't control them, I forbid pornography or whatever it is I forbid. Am I right, am I wrong? All nations wish to survive, they can't if people read different kinds of books, different kinds of characters, different kinds of social systems, you can't control your people that way. So you say "I believe in democracy" nobody believes in democracy, they believe in what they've been conditioned to believe in. They can't believe in democracy otherwise they go hear communism, socialism, free love and all, they'd say "I don't know enough about them to make up my mind which is right" they'd speak like that - "I don't know enough about it." Do you understand what I'm saying? I'm upsetting the apple cart, so that there are no values except the values that preserve nature, man, and his relationship to his fellow man and nature. This is the only laws I know of, well if you don't care of the forest, we let them burn and die, we will suffer. If we polute the oceans, we will suffer, those are things I accept. I don't know any other system. Will they do that in the future? I think they'll control things in the future, weather, hurricanes, earthquakes, everything. Man will learn to control things, in his behalf, not - the other organisms that he keeps alive would be supportive to that culture, do you understand that? That's why it'd be very difficult to deal with people who came from another planet, with a different gavitational field, different lighting systems, if they develop - they don't have to look like us, whatever they develop they'd be reflecting their culture. So a guy says, I'd like to share ideas with you, well only if they lived here and they had all kinds of methods of evaluation. But they wouldn't want to associate with us because we're too limitted. If they've been around longer. So, I can't say that Fresco tells the truth, I can only say that Fresco's world is based upon survey, related to man and his relationship to the environment. That's what I mean by mechanistic. Cause I asked once, a writer of a scientific book, "you think man is a machine?" he says "that's the old mechanistic point of view that man is a machine." He didn't say "what do you mean by machine?" There was no semantics at the time, you know what I mean? To know what a man is talking about. By machine I mean that the eyes can not move to that position unless there's a muscle that pulls it there, unless there's a mechanism in the brain, or a bright light cause the eye to look at it. So I want to make little dolls, with little magnets in their heads, you don't see, if I hold a magnet there, the eyes will focus on it, if I move it, but not really. Normal people would think gee the machine is looking at where ever you hold that. I can simulate that. You can make a machine to have facial expressions in sympathy. If you say "I bought a new car and I lost it, i forgot to put the brakes on, it went off a" - the machines eyebrows change - say "my god, I'm sorry to hear that" - but it won't feel anything. It'll react as though it felt something. A machine can't feel. Bad or good about you, it can only react to the way it's circuits are built. Do you understand that? That's why a machine will never say I'm going to take over, cause it doesn't have ambition. It doesn't say "your wife is prettier than mine", or "that machine looks nicer than the other machine" it has no such reaction, nor can it be given that. No matter how you circuit a machine it can say that, "that machine is rusting, and it's going to disintegrate" and it can even cry, but it won't feel anything. It's like a movie of an actor doing, and you know that he didn't lose his wife, and he didn't get shot, although he got shot in the movie, the movie can't feel, it can simulate feeling and that's why a person says, "he's a good actor" meaning he can get you to cry or she can get you to cry. Y'say "they're good actors," and sometimes people use that in marrying a rich man, a girl might say "you're so wonderful, I love you" and the rich man feels flattered and he marries her, then she spends a lot of money on a lot of things. That's simulating love. Do you know what I mean? A prostitute that says "you're a lousy lay" after the day is over, you won't come back. She says "I really enjoyed that sexual" - you know, after all there are people that simulate good and bad, right and wrong. Knowing the difference is difficult, if they're good at it. A salesman who sells you something, simulates being your friend "let me advise you that the Ford car is better built than any other car today, believe me, I'm doing you a favor" is he a car salesman? Or a fireman? You know, what is he? If he's a salesman and a church goer, that believes in god, he'll say "I say a chevy's best if you live in rough terrain, or a jeap'd be better than a chevy" you know what I mean? That's an honest guy. He says "that's what I know about cars" but a person can't work for general motors and say "get yourself an Italian car" I bought a Totra a Czechoslovakian car, you know the Totra? I bought it and a mechanic said "I'm not gunna work on your car, it's from a communist country" he said that to me. I said "is there a communist shit? Or a Greek shit? Or a Greek pain? Or a communist pain?" there's no such thing as communist science or Czechoslovakian science, there's only science and they call people scientists that are not generalists, that are in one field. He's an optical scientist. He knows how to grind lenses. But he's not a scientist. To me a scientist's one who's interested in everything, has loyality to methodology. That means, if a Greek comes up with a cure for cancer you honor him. If a Japenese scientist comes up with a cure for cancer, you honor him. You honor any human being worthy of honor, but you don't honor only your own kind. He was an american, that's what I like about it. Patriotism pulls a shield up infront of us so we can't see things as they are. We can't even hear the differences of nations. We get mad at them. If they don't uphold american values, or our concepts of freedom and democracy, we get mad at people and that's what they want you to do. They want you to have loyality to what they teach. But if you have loyality to methodology, you get rid of a fountain pen, if it leaks and you buy a ballpoint pen, because no matter where it was invented if it works better than the other pen, you use it. If Filipinos come up with a new type of eye glass, that gives you better vision, you use it. You honor them, because you don't - "gee I hope a Greek did it, 'cause I'm greek." You blind yourself. You understand? I don't like traditional Jews, or traditional Catholics, or traditional Americans, you understand? Or any traditional group. But not because they're Filipinos, because of their values, and the values they pick up. So if you discriminate - "I don't wanna live nextdoor to a clansman, because he's - let's go out and beatup a Jew or a nigger or a Filipino, or any damn foreigner" I don't find that fulfilling, I find that to be a limitted viewpoint. Racial prejudice is like patriotism toward a certain race. "I'm a Greek and I'm proud of it" once you do that, you damage a person. Say "I'm a Greek, and I like certain Greeks, and Filipinos, and certain blacks, and certain Italians" - if you meet Italian gangsters you say "Italians are gangsters" that's when you're projecting, one set of values into all Italians. Anyway, that ought to give you some perspective of the world you live in.
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Country: United States
Producer: The Venus Project
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Jacque Fresco-Dec. 28, 2010-Can't Exceed Your Environment
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