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Posted by: fulltilt on Sep 23, 2009

Kim's pro session.

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Hi, I'm Kelly Kim, here to play a session of 15/30 Omaha Hi-Lo. Let's get started.
I chose Omaha Hi-Lo because it's a very interesting game and there are a lot of ways to play it.
You get four cards, and it's a split game. The object of the game is to win both sides.
The key is to win the low and freeroll on the high so you can snoop pots.
When you play this game, a lot of people make mistakes just going for high ... or if they're priced out and just going for low.
It's a grinder's game, because you're chipping up and need to account for equity in each pot ...
To see how much your hand is worth -- if you can win both sides or one way.
The Ace in this game is probably worth two cards, because it's so powerful. It's the only card you can go both ways with.
For lows you want to go with A-2, A-3, things like that. You want to have suited aces.
And you want to have lows that can't be counterfeited.
People always call with A-2, but the problem with A-2, as seen on this board ...
Right now you have half the low, but if an Ace or deuce comes your hand becomes worthless.
Obviously A-2-3 would be optimal here, because there's no card that could really hurt you.
You've got to pick spots where you can do that. Here, a suited Ace-2 would give you nut-nut.
Like this hand here -- 8-9-4-Q -- is really bad. He should never put a chip in the pot with that, even in the blinds.
Middle cards are really bad in this game, because you can almost never scoop without a full house.
Here my first hand, 4-5-10-J double-suited, is really not a very good hand, but for one more bet in the big blind, I'm going to see a flop.
I flopped an open-ended straight draw, but I have a five-low draw.
I'm going to "take one off", because if I get an Ace it's the gin card that will let me scoop the whole pot. But ...
Now I pick up a flush draw, too. So I have to continue with the hand.
I really need to catch an Ace or 6. The Ace of clubs would be ideal.
Wow. I backed into a straight, too. I probably have the best hand here, but I have a bad low.
But there's three cards to a flush. I'm going to check. This guy's calling for a reason.
I'm definitely going to call a bet.
I'm not happy with the 5-low. I might get scooped, too. We'll see.
Wow, 5-4 ended up taking half, which is pretty amazing.
He opened with two Aces and a Queen-9.
He had a hand. No low-draw, but that hand plays well heads-up, so I can't really fault him for that.
Right now I think 'Midnight' is not playing proper strategy, so I would consider him malevolent.
Apollo limped with 2-5-6-10, double-suited. That hand is pretty bad.
It looks good, but you run into problems.
He ended up with a 6-high flush draw and a 6-5 low. They're really not good hands.
I would never play those cards in that position. Only in the blinds.
I have a similar hand, 2-5-6-J. Let's fold it.
Beginning players overplay the middle cards. They come from playing Omaha Hi, so they fall in love with hands like 7-8-9-10.
Those look good, but are bad because you can never scoop. You can only win the high, with people freerolling on the low.
If I had 7-8-9-10 here, it looks good on the flop because I have top-two pairs.
But people can back into flushes. And you're never really going to win the low with that hand.
I would say in Omaha Hi-Lo you want to build your hand from the bottom up.
Start with the Aces and low card, and then move up.
Hands like 7-8-K-J, things like that, you only want to play out of the blinds.
This hand is bad, 3-6-7-J.
The best starting hand is A-A-2-3 double-suited. I don't think I've ever had that in my life.
I've had like A-A-2-3 not double suited, and A-A-2-4.
A-A-2-3 is the best starting hand because you can make two nut flushes, and you have a low that can't be counterfeited.
Two Aces with a "baby" is a really good hand. Like A-A-3, A-A-4.
With Aces and a low, you really want to get in heads-up situations.
He opened into this pot with A-Q-6-9.
A general good rule for Omaha is you want to have at least two cards that can make a "wheel". The wheel in this game is A-2-3-4-5.
The very low cut-off for coming in should be Ace-5.
Hands like 2-3-4 can come in the pot in later position.
Because if you catch an Ace, you can make a pretty good hand for the low.
But A-6-Q-9, just one suit, is bad. Because he's only drawing to A-6 low, which seldom wins pots.
It almost never wins the low. He backed into a high here -- got lucky with 6-9.
The hand I just folded was A-5-10-7, with two cards suited. The nut clubs.
If I had any other low card with the A-5, I would come in.
See, Ace-4 would have won me the hand with the wheel.
So far I think I picked a pretty good game.
These two players are not really getting involved. And Omaha Hi-Lo should be a patient game. You have to wait.
When I'm looking for inexperienced players, or those I'm marking to extract the most money from, I look at their starting hands.
And then you can tag their weaknesses, see their flaws, based on their starting hands.
In Omaha Hi-Lo you have to start good. You just can't spot someone a much better hand than yours in this game.
You just can't avoid it, because essentially you're getting 9 cards to make the best hand high or low.
This looks like a good hand, but I'm going to fold it.
This would be one of those middle situations where you're only going for the high. I can only scoop if it comes out like A-2-3.
See, right now I'd be trapped. I'd have a 5-4 low draw with a pair of 6s and a flush draw.
It looks good, but the 5-4 really got me against this hand.
I end up making a decent hand -- a 10-high straight, with a 5-4 low.
But I just don't want to get involved because you get trapped.
The problem with Omaha Hi-Lo is seen in this hand. I would've won the high with a 10-high straight.
But he had me covered on all angles. With the 2-4, and top pair.
This hand here, Q-9-3-3, is atrocious - not worth even a cent. He actually called a raise with one of the worst hands you can ever play in this game.
So let's hope 'Apollo' gets lucky and wins some pots, to keep him in action.
The way to win money in this game is to get money in when you have the nut low and are freerolling for the high.
If you have a nut low and a flush draw, I would just hammer the pot.
Even if someone else has the nut low, if you make the flush you're freerolling for 3/4 of the pot.
Scooping and quartering people is key in this game.
As you can see, I won the first pot -- half of it -- and I haven't really fluctuated.
Omaha Hi-Lo is really a grinder's game. So I like multi-tabling this game.
This hand, I have three wheel cards with an Ace, but I have no suits. But in this position I'm still going to raise coming in.
It's key to have the three wheel cards.
And he comes in. Not good. Now I have no high, but the nut low draw.
The best card right now for me would be a 4. Because then I have a chance to scoop.
Now I have the nut-low, but no high. I'm still betting, because no matter what I'm getting some money ... so long as a 3 doesn't come.
If this card came on the turn, my hand would be much stronger. I'm still betting A-3.
I have a feeling he might have A-3, too, but I know Apollo is out there with less.
Wow, he hit the 4 to 3/4 me, which is somewhat brutal.
This is a pretty good hand. I have A-2 and two flush draws.
In an optimal scenario, the 9 or 6 would be smaller. But that's OK.
I flop a pair of 9s with no low possible, and a 6-high flush draw. I'm going to check.
I'm going to call a bet, but I can't play this hand strongly because I don't have insurance.
You need insurance in this game, like backdoor lows.
Right now I'm playing a pair of 9s and a flush-draw. I don't have enough information to just fold.
That's a bad card. Now I'm drawing to a 6-high flush, and I could be drawing dead.
And given that 'Midnight' comes in with a lot of big hands, I'm going to let him have it.
By "big hands" I mean high hands. He's all over these types of boards, from what I've seen before.
I think he's pretty tight and his approach to this game is right.
And like I said, you can't spot anyone good cards in Omaha non-stop.
Because eventually they will chop you down. That's the nature of the game.
I think 'Apollo' went broke.
See, he called an Ace-high board with two Queens. That's really bad.
Oh, he reloaded. That's a good sign.
This hand I can't even defend. No suits.
I'm hoping to get in cheap with this hand. For $5.
I do have the nut-flush draw with diamonds.
This looks interesting. I flopped top-two pair. I don't really have a low. I could backdoor it if another low comes, giving me a live 5.
I am still going to call with top-two.
This card actually makes my hand better, the 2. Because now I'm playing a low, with only a live 5. But I still have top-two pair.
Oh wow. That's probably the worst card in the deck for me. The 5 of spades.
It's the worst card because I no longer have a low. And he could be drawing for a flush.
I mean I have a low, but I'm essentially playing the board with my hand.
I had him in bad shape there.
We had the same low, playing a live 5 on the turn. But I had A-8 and he had A-6.
So when the river came, I 3/4'd him. We both played the board for the low, and I won the high with A-8.
Quartering someone happens when you have the same low.
Say you are heads-up, you both have A-2, but then you pair a Jack ...
and they don't pair a jack. So they're just playing a low hoping for half the pot. Hoping for half
When you quarter someone, we split the low, and then I win all the high.
That's how you quarter someone. You get 75% of the pot if you have the identical low or identical high hand.
Those are key situations in this game -- to have the same hand and freeroll for once side or the other.
When he raised the turn, I'm assuming he has a hand with two-way potential.
He's smart enough to bet just the nut-low here.
He had the nut full house and a live five.
Two years ago I hated this game.
I started playing a lot of mixed games, and this one is very intricate.
It's like Hold'em, but harder, because you get two extra cards and it's a split game.
Once I began learning the game and figuring it out, I started appreciating it. I really enjoy the game now.
It takes a long time because you get in a lot of marginal situations in this game, and you have to learn to avoid getting squeezed.
Let's say you're drawing, and one guy has a high and another has a low and they start raising and raising. That's "squeezed".
You should try to avoid those situations.
You have to see it coming so you can just fold when you know it will happen.
Here I have A-5-5-8 with three clubs.
It's a good hand in the blind.
I can't fold here getting 7-to-1.
I'm hoping for something like 2-3.
OK, this is what makes this hand bad. As soon as you pair the Ace, you feel so vulnerable.
So I'm just going to fold on a 5-8 low draw with no clubs. I have really no shot of winning this pot.
2-2-3-5. This hand is rather bad.
It's a good hand in the blinds. Right now I have the nut-low draw. But I don't want to call a raise with it.
See, this is getting counterfeited.
I'd still end up with 2-5, which is the second nut low. (2-4 being better.)
But if I didn't have the 5 as a back-up, I probably would have been scooped.
Hands like these are delicate to play, because you're only going for a high.
In some situations I could three-bet here and just hope that the flop comes high.
But I'd rather just fold and not get involved with K-K-9-10.
A lot of PLO players that cross over overvalue hands like that.
And they hammer it, just playing the Kings. Sometimes they get there. But you get in a lot of bad situations playing only high hands.
Generally I play high hands only out of the blinds.
Or maybe on the button if I'm the first one in.
This one, though -- two Aces -- you just can't fold.
I don't like the smooth-call from this guy. He's a good player. I'm hoping for a big flop.
If it comes all small I'll check-fold.
This is a good flop for me.
I have two Aces and an open-ended straight draw.
I will play it strong.
I'm hoping the 2 pairs.
Oh, wow, he raised. That changes things.
That might be one of the worst cards in the deck.
I'm going to fold.
This is exactly the problem with playing high hands.
My hand looked good on the flop, but look what happened: A flush draw got there and a low draw got there.
He raised the turn. I think he's raising with a good potential hand. Like he might have had A-3 of clubs.
This is a big hand. I have the second-nut low draw, middle pair, and an open-ended straight draw.
Even if he raises I am OK with it.
A 2 here would be the best card in the deck for me, giving me nut-nut.
I end up with just a pair of 5s.
I want him to bet here, because then there's a chance he's bluffing with something like A-J-2.
He had A-K-5.
We chopped it.
He had a freeroll to diamonds, but I had an extra low card.
They are probably worth about the same.
I raised this hand with A-A-5-8. Two Aces with a low card is a powerful. But it's not optimal because I don't have any suits.
Oh, he leads out, representing a 2. But I'm hoping to back into a low.
That's a really good card for me, so I'm going to continue with my hand.
That's not good. This is the problem I told you about.
So now I'm playing an A-8 low and two Aces. I probably won't get scooped, but I'm still checking it.
This is a rather good hand. Any suited A-2 with another low card is a big hand in this game.
This is a good flop. Trips. And the back-door nut-low draw.
Now I have a full house.
I really don't like the 2 that much. But I will raise him.
We might have the same hand.
I don't know what he had.
Here, A-3-8-9 with no suits, I'm going to fold in this position.
Here, if you pair your Ace or 3 right away, then your hand becomes really bad.
I hope you learned something watching me play Omaha Hi-Lo, also known as Omaha 8-or-Better. It's a very interesting game.
There were some really good spots here. Like 'Apollo'.
He's on his third buy-in. I don't think 'Midnight' plays too well either.
You want to look for situations like this and players like these.
I hope you come play with me. At Full Tilt Poker.

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