Transcript for Ray Kurzweil on how technology will transform us
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Well, it's great to be here. |
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We've heard a lot about the promise of technology, and the peril. |
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I've been quite interested in both. |
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If we could convert 0.03 percent |
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of the sunlight that falls on the earth into energy, |
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we could meet all of our projected needs for 2030. |
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We can't do that today because solar panels are heavy, |
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expensive and very inefficient. |
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There are nano-engineered designs, |
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which at least have been analyzed theoretically, |
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that show the potential to be very lightweight, |
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very inexpensive, very efficient, |
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and we'd be able to actually provide all of our energy needs in this renewable way. |
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Nano-engineered fuel cells |
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could provide the energy where it's needed. |
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That's a key trend, which is decentralization, |
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moving from centralized nuclear power plants and |
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liquid natural gas tankers |
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to decentralized resources that are environmentally more friendly, |
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a lot more efficient |
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and capable and safe from disruption. |
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Bono spoke very eloquently, |
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that we have the tools, for the first time, |
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to address age-old problems of disease and poverty. |
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Most regions of the world are moving in that direction. |
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In 1990, in East Asia and the Pacific region, |
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there were 500 million people living in poverty -- |
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that number now is under 200 million. |
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The World Bank projects by 2011, it will be under 20 million, |
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which is a reduction of 95 percent. |
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I did enjoy Bono's comment |
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linking Haight-Ashbury to Silicon Valley. |
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Being from the Massachusetts high-tech community myself, |
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I'd point out that we were hippies also in the 1960s, |
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although we hung around Harvard Square. |
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But we do have the potential to overcome disease and poverty, |
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and I'm going to talk about those issues, if we have the will. |
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Kevin Kelly talked about the acceleration of technology. |
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That's been a strong interest of mine, |
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and a theme that I've developed for some 30 years. |
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I realized that my technologies had to make sense when I finished a project. |
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That invariably, the world was a different place |
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when I would introduce a technology. |
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And, I noticed that most inventions fail, |
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not because the R&D department can't get it to work -- |
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if you look at most business plans, they will actually succeed |
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if given the opportunity to build what they say they're going to build -- |
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and 90 percent of those projects or more will fail, because the timing is wrong -- |
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not all the enabling factors will be in place when they're needed. |
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So I began to be an ardent student of technology trends, |
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and track where technology would be at different points in time, |
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and began to build the mathematical models of that. |
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It's kind of taken on a life of its own. |
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I've got a group of 10 people that work with me to gather data |
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on key measures of technology in many different areas, and we build models. |
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And you'll hear people say, well, we can't predict the future. |
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And if you ask me, |
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will the price of Google be higher or lower than it is today three years from now, |
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that's very hard to say. |
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Will WiMax CDMA G3 |
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be the wireless standard three years from now? That's hard to say. |
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But if you ask me, what will it cost |
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for one MIPS of computing in 2010, |
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or the cost to sequence a base pair of DNA in 2012, |
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or the cost of sending a megabyte of data wirelessly in 2014, |
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it turns out that those are very predictable. |
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There are remarkably smooth exponential curves |
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that govern price performance, capacity, bandwidth. |
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And I'm going to show you a small sample of this, |
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but there's really a theoretical reason |
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why technology develops in an exponential fashion. |
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And a lot of people, when they think about the future, think about it linearly. |
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They think they're going to continue |
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to develop a problem |
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or address a problem using today's tools, |
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at today's pace of progress, |
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and fail to take into consideration this exponential growth. |
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The Genome Project was a controversial project in 1990. |
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We had our best Ph.D. students, |
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our most advanced equipment around the world, |
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we got 1/10,000th of the project done, |
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so how're we going to get this done in 15 years? |
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And 10 years into the project, |
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the skeptics were still going strong -- says, "You're two-thirds through this project, |
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and you've managed to only sequence |
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a very tiny percentage of the whole genome." |
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But it's the nature of exponential growth |
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that once it reaches the knee of the curve, it explodes. |
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Most of the project was done in the last |
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few years of the project. |
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It took us 15 years to sequence HIV -- |
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we sequenced SARS in 31 days. |
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So we are gaining the potential to overcome these problems. |
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I'm going to show you just a few examples |
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of how pervasive this phenomena is. |
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The actual paradigm-shift rate, the rate of adopting new ideas, |
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is doubling every decade, according to our models. |
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These are all logarithmic graphs, |
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so as you go up the levels it represents, generally multiplying by factor of 10 or 100. |
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It took us half a century to adopt the telephone, |
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the first virtual-reality technology. |
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Cell phones were adopted in about eight years. |
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If you put different communication technologies |
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on this logarithmic graph, |
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television, radio, telephone |
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were adopted in decades. |
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Recent technologies -- like the PC, the web, cell phones -- |
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were under a decade. |
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Now this is an interesting chart, |
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and this really gets at the fundamental reason why |
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an evolutionary process -- and both biology and technology are evolutionary processes -- |
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accelerate. |
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They work through interaction -- they create a capability, |
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and then it uses that capability to bring on the next stage. |
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So the first step in biological evolution, |
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the evolution of DNA -- actually it was RNA came first -- |
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took billions of years, |
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but then evolution used that information-processing backbone |
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to bring on the next stage. |
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So the Cambrian Explosion, when all the body plans of the animals were evolved, |
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took only 10 million years. It was 200 times faster. |
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And then evolution used those body plans |
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to evolve higher cognitive functions, |
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and biological evolution kept accelerating. |
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It's an inherent nature of an evolutionary process. |
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So Homo sapiens, the first technology-creating species, |
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the species that combined a cognitive function |
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with an opposable appendage -- |
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and by the way, chimpanzees don't really have a very good opposable thumb -- |
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so we could actually manipulate our environment with a power grip |
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and fine motor coordination, |
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and use our mental models to actually change the world |
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and bring on technology. |
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But anyway, the evolution of our species took hundreds of thousands of years, |
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and then working through interaction, |
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evolution used, essentially, |
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the technology-creating species to bring on the next stage, |
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which were the first steps in technological evolution. |
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And the first step took tens of thousands of years -- |
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stone tools, fire, the wheel -- kept accelerating. |
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We always used then the latest generation of technology |
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to create the next generation. |
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Printing press took a century to be adopted; |
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the first computers were designed pen-on-paper -- now we use computers. |
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And we've had a continual acceleration of this process. |
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Now by the way, if you look at this on a linear graph, it looks like everything has just happened, |
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but some observer says, "Well, Kurzweil just put points on this graph |
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that fall on that straight line." |
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So, I took 15 different lists from key thinkers, |
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like the Encyclopedia Britannica, the Museum of Natural History, Carl Sagan's Cosmic Calendar |
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on the same -- and these people were not trying to make my point; |
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these were just lists in reference works, |
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and I think that's what they thought the key events were |
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in biological evolution and technological evolution. |
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And again, it forms the same straight line. You have a little bit of thickening in the line |
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because people do have disagreements, what the key points are, |
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there's differences of opinion when agriculture started, |
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or how long the Cambrian Explosion took. |
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But you see a very clear trend. |
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There's a basic, profound acceleration of this evolutionary process. |
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Information technologies double their capacity, price performance, bandwidth, |
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every year. |
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And that's a very profound explosion of exponential growth. |
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A personal experience, when I was at MIT -- |
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computer taking up about the size of this room, |
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less powerful than the computer in your cell phone. |
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But Moore's Law, which is very often identified with this exponential growth, |
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is just one example of many, because it's basically |
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a property of the evolutionary process of technology. |
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I put 49 famous computers on this logarithmic graph -- |
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by the way, a straight line on a logarithmic graph is exponential growth -- |
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that's another exponential. |
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It took us three years to double our price performance of computing in 1900, |
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two years in the middle; we're now doubling it every one year. |
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And that's exponential growth through five different paradigms. |
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Moore's Law was just the last part of that, |
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where we were shrinking transistors on an integrated circuit, |
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but we had electro-mechanical calculators, |
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relay-based computers that cracked the German Enigma Code, |
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vacuum tubes in the 1950s predicted the election of Eisenhower, |
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discreet transistors used in the first space flights |
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and then Moore's Law. |
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Every time one paradigm ran out of steam, |
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another paradigm came out of left field to continue the exponential growth. |
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They were shrinking vacuum tubes, making them smaller and smaller. |
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That hit a wall. They couldn't shrink them and keep the vacuum. |
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Whole different paradigm -- transistors came out of the woodwork. |
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In fact, when we see the end of the line for a particular paradigm, |
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it creates research pressure to create the next paradigm. |
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And because we've been predicting the end of Moore's Law |
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for quite a long time -- the first prediction said 2002, until now it says 2022. |
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But by the teen years, |
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the features of transistors will be a few atoms in width, |
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and we won't be able to shrink them any more. |
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That'll be the end of Moore's Law, but it won't be the end of |
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the exponential growth of computing, because chips are flat. |
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We live in a three-dimensional world; we might as well use the third dimension. |
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We will go into the third dimension |
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and there's been tremendous progress, just in the last few years, |
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of getting three-dimensional, self-organizing molecular circuits to work. |
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We'll have those ready well before Moore's Law runs out of steam. |
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Supercomputers -- same thing. |
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Processor performance on Intel chips, |
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the average price of a transistor -- |
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1968, you could buy one transistor for a dollar. |
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You could buy 10 million in 2002. |
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It's pretty remarkable how smooth |
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an exponential process that is. |
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I mean, you'd think this is the result of some tabletop experiment, |
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but this is the result of worldwide chaotic behavior -- |
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countries accusing each other of dumping products, |
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IPOs, bankruptcies, marketing programs. |
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You would think it would be a very erratic process, |
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and you have a very smooth |
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outcome of this chaotic process. |
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Just as we can't predict |
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what one molecule in a gas will do -- |
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it's hopeless to predict a single molecule -- |
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yet we can predict the properties of the whole gas, |
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using thermodynamics, very accurately. |
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It's the same thing here. We can't predict any particular project, |
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but the result of this whole worldwide, |
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chaotic, unpredictable activity of competition |
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and the evolutionary process of technology is very predictable. |
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And we can predict these trends far into the future. |
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Unlike Gertrude Stein's roses, |
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it's not the case that a transistor is a transistor. |
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As we make them smaller and less expensive, |
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the electrons have less distance to travel. |
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They're faster, so you've got exponential growth in the speed of transistors, |
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so the cost of a cycle of one transistor |
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has been coming down with a halving rate of 1.1 years. |
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You add other forms of innovation and processor design, |
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you get a doubling of price performance of computing every one year. |
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And that's basically deflation -- |
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50 percent deflation. |
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And it's not just computers. I mean, it's true of DNA sequencing; |
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it's true of brain scanning; |
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it's true of the World Wide Web. I mean, anything that we can quantify, |
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we have hundreds of different measurements |
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of different, information-related measurements -- |
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capacity, adoption rates -- |
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and they basically double every 12, 13, 15 months, |
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depending on what you're looking at. |
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In terms of price performance, that's a 40 to 50 percent deflation rate. |
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And economists have actually started worrying about that. |
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We had deflation during the Depression, |
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but that was collapse of the money supply, |
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collapse of consumer confidence, a completely different phenomena. |
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This is due to greater productivity, |
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but the economist says, "But there's no way you're going to be able to keep up with that. |
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If you have 50 percent deflation, people may increase their volume |
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30, 40 percent, but they won't keep up with it." |
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But what we're actually seeing is that |
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we actually more than keep up with it. |
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We've had 28 percent per year compounded growth in dollars |
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in information technology over the last 50 years. |
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I mean, people didn't build iPods for 10,000 dollars 10 years ago. |
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As the price performance makes new applications feasible, |
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new applications come to the market. |
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And this is a very widespread phenomena. |
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Magnetic data storage -- |
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that's not Moore's Law, it's shrinking magnetic spots, |
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different engineers, different companies, same exponential process. |
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A key revolution is that we're understanding our own biology |
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in these information terms. |
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We're understanding the software programs |
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that make our body run. |
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These were evolved in very different times -- |
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we'd like to actually change those programs. |
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One little software program, called the fat insulin receptor gene, |
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basically says, "Hold onto every calorie, |
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because the next hunting season may not work out so well." |
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That was in the interests of the species tens of thousands of years ago. |
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We'd like to actually turn that program off. |
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They tried that in animals, and these mice ate ravenously |
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and remained slim and got the health benefits of being slim. |
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They didn't get diabetes; they didn't get heart disease; |
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they lived 20 percent longer; they got the health benefits of caloric restriction |
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without the restriction. |
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Four or five pharmaceutical companies have noticed this, |
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felt that would be |
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interesting drug for the human market, |
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and that's just one of the 30,000 genes |
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that affect our biochemistry. |
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We were evolved in an era where it wasn't in the interests of people |
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at the age of most people at this conference, like myself, |
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to live much longer, because we were using up the precious resources |
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which were better deployed towards the children |
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and those caring for them. |
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So, life -- long lifespans -- |
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like, that is to say, much more than 30 -- |
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weren't selected for, |
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but we are learning to actually manipulate |
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and change these software programs |
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through the biotechnology revolution. |
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For example, we can inhibit genes now with RNA interference. |
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There are exciting new forms of gene therapy |
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that overcome the problem of placing the genetic material |
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in the right place on the chromosome. |
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There's actually a -- for the first time now, |
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something going to human trials, that actually cures pulmonary hypertension -- |
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a fatal disease -- using gene therapy. |
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So we'll have not just designer babies, but designer baby boomers. |
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And this technology is also accelerating. |
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It cost 10 dollars per base pair in 1990, |
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then a penny in 2000. |
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It's now under a 10th of a cent. |
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The amount of genetic data -- |
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basically this shows that smooth exponential growth |
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doubled every year, |
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enabling the genome project to be completed. |
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Another major revolution: the communications revolution. |
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The price performance, bandwidth, capacity of communications measured many different ways; |
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wired, wireless is growing exponentially. |
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The Internet has been doubling in power and continues to, |
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measured many different ways. |
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This is based on the number of hosts. |
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Miniaturization -- we're shrinking the size of technology |
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at an exponential rate, |
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both wired and wireless. |
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These are some designs from Eric Drexler's book -- |
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which we're now showing are feasible |
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with super-computing simulations, |
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where actually there are scientists building |
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molecule-scale robots. |
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One has one that actually walks with a surprisingly human-like gait, |
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that's built out of molecules. |
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There are little machines doing things in experimental bases. |
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The most exciting opportunity |
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is actually to go inside the human body |
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and perform therapeutic and diagnostic functions. |
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And this is less futuristic than it may sound. |
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These things have already been done in animals. |
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There's one nano-engineered device that cures type 1 diabetes. It's blood cell-sized. |
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They put tens of thousands of these |
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in the blood cell -- they tried this in rats -- |
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it lets insulin out in a controlled fashion, |
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and actually cures type 1 diabetes. |
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What you're watching is a design |
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of a robotic red blood cell, |
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and it does bring up the issue that our biology |
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is actually very sub-optimal, |
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even though it's remarkable in its intricacy. |
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Once we understand its principles of operation, |
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and the pace with which we are reverse-engineering biology is accelerating, |
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we can actually design these things to be |
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thousands of times more capable. |
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An analysis of this respirocyte, designed by Rob Freitas, |
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indicates if you replace 10 percent of your red blood cells with these robotic versions, |
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you could do an Olympic sprint for 15 minutes without taking a breath. |
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You could sit at the bottom of your pool for four hours -- |
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so, "Honey, I'm in the pool," will take on a whole new meaning. |
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It will be interesting to see what we do in our Olympic trials. |
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Presumably we'll ban them, |
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but then we'll have the specter of teenagers in their high schools gyms |
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routinely out-performing the Olympic athletes. |
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Freitas has a design for a robotic white blood cell. |
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These are 2020-circa scenarios, |
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but they're not as futuristic as it may sound. |
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There are four major conferences on building blood cell-sized devices; |
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there are many experiments in animals. |
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There's actually one going into human trial, |
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so this is feasible technology. |
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If we come back to our exponential growth of computing, |
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1,000 dollars of computing is now somewhere between an insect and a mouse brain. |
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It will intersect human intelligence |
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in terms of capacity in the 2020s, |
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but that'll be the hardware side of the equation. |
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Where will we get the software? |
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Well, it turns out we can see inside the human brain, |
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and in fact not surprisingly, |
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the spatial and temporal resolution of brain scanning is doubling every year. |
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And with the new generation of scanning tools, |
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for the first time we can actually see |
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individual inter-neural fibers |
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and see them processing and signaling in real time -- |
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but then the question is, OK, we can get this data now, |
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but can we understand it? |
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Doug Hofstadter wonders, well, maybe our intelligence |
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just isn't great enough to understand our intelligence, |
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and if we were smarter, well, then our brains would be that much more complicated, |
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and we'd never catch up to it. |
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It turns out that we can understand it. |
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This is a block diagram of |
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a model and simulation of the human auditory cortex |
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that actually works quite well -- |
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in applying psychoacoustic tests, gets very similar results to human auditory perception. |
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There's another simulation of the cerebellum -- |
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that's more than half the neurons in the brain -- |
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again, works very similarly to human skill formation. |
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This is at an early stage, but you can show |
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with the exponential growth of the amount of information about the brain |
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and the exponential improvement |
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in the resolution of brain scanning, |
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we will succeed in reverse-engineering the human brain |
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by the 2020s. |
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We've already had very good models and simulation of about 15 regions |
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out of the several hundred. |
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All of this is driving |
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exponentially growing economic progress. |
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We've had productivity go from 30 dollars to 150 dollars per hour |
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of labor in the last 50 years. |
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E-commerce has been growing exponentially. It's now a trillion dollars. |
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You might wonder, well, wasn't there a boom and a bust? |
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That was strictly a capital-markets phenomena. |
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Wall Street noticed that this was a revolutionary technology, which it was, |
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but then six months later, when it hadn't revolutionized all business models, |
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they figured, well, that was wrong, |
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and then we had this bust. |
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All right, this is a technology |
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that we put together using some of the technologies we're involved in. |
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This will be a routine feature in a cell phone. |
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It would be able to translate from one language to another. |
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So let me just end with a couple of scenarios. |
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By 2010 computers will disappear. |
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They'll be so small, they'll be embedded in our clothing, in our environment. |
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Images will be written directly to our retina, |
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providing full-immersion virtual reality, |
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augmented real reality. We'll be interacting with virtual personalities. |
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But if we go to 2029, we really have the full maturity of these trends, |
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and you have to appreciate how many turns of the screw |
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in terms of generations of technology, which are getting faster and faster, we'll have at that point. |
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I mean, we will have two-to-the-25th-power |
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greater price performance, capacity and bandwidth |
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of these technologies, which is pretty phenomenal. |
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It'll be millions of times more powerful than it is today. |
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We'll have completed the reverse-engineering of the human brain, |
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1,000 dollars of computing will be far more powerful |
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than the human brain in terms of basic raw capacity. |
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Computers will combine |
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the subtle pan-recognition powers |
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of human intelligence with ways in which machines are already superior, |
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in terms of doing analytic thinking, |
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remembering billions of facts accurately. |
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Machines can share their knowledge very quickly. |
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But it's not just an alien invasion of intelligent machines. |
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We are going to merge with our technology. |
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These nano-bots I mentioned |
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will first be used for medical and health applications: |
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cleaning up the environment, providing powerful fuel cells |
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and widely distributed decentralized solar panels and so on in the environment. |
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But they'll also go inside our brain, |
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interact with our biological neurons. |
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We've demonstrated the key principles of being able to do this. |
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So, for example, |
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full-immersion virtual reality from within the nervous system, |
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the nano-bots shut down the signals coming from your real senses, |
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replace them with the signals that your brain would be receiving |
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if you were in the virtual environment, |
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and then it'll feel like you're in that virtual environment. |
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You can go there with other people, have any kind of experience |
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with anyone involving all of the senses. |
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"Experience beamers," I call them, will put their whole flow of sensory experiences |
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in the neurological correlates of their emotions out on the Internet. |
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You can plug in and experience what it's like to be someone else. |
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But most importantly, |
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it'll be a tremendous expansion |
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of human intelligence through this direct merger with our technology, |
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which in some sense we're doing already. |
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We routinely do intellectual feats |
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that would be impossible without our technology. |
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Human life expectancy is expanding. It was 37 in 1800, |
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and with this sort of biotechnology, nano-technology revolutions, |
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this will move up very rapidly |
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in the years ahead. |
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My main message is that progress in technology |
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is exponential, not linear. |
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Many -- even scientists -- assume a linear model, |
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so they'll say, "Oh, it'll be hundreds of years |
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before we have self-replicating nano-technology assembly |
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or artificial intelligence." |
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If you really look at the power of exponential growth, |
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you'll see that these things are pretty soon at hand. |
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And information technology is increasingly encompassing |
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all of our lives, from our music to our manufacturing |
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to our biology to our energy to materials. |
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We'll be able to manufacture almost anything we need in the 2020s, |
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from information, in very inexpensive raw materials, |
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using nano-technology. |
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These are very powerful technologies. |
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They both empower our promise and our peril. |
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So we have to have the will to apply them to the right problems. |
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Thank you very much. |
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(Applause) |