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Transcript for Tom Cech Interview - How does a scientist know that what he or she has found is correct?

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Yes, that’s an excellent question. How do we know we’re correct?

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Well, of course you repeat an experiment several times...

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...to make sure that the result is reproducible.

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That turns out to be not enough...

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...because there could be an inherent mistake in an experiment and every time you repeat it,

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if you repeat it exactly the same way, you make exactly that same mistake...

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...and then you get the same result, so...

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...although we repeat our experiments, that’s insufficient.

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Ultimately what happens is that you try to find a whole different approach to...

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...validate what you think is happening.

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We used to have a rule in our laboratory that you need to find three independent,

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completely different kinds of experiments to test an idea.

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Sometimes it’s hard to find three, so we settle for two.

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But one usually is not enough.

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And then, ultimately what happens is that you publish your...

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...information and your explanation in a scientific journal...

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...and then, if it is exciting to other people,

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they will try to extend your work in directions that are interesting to them,

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and that’s when you find out whether your results are correct or not,

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because if other people extend them in new directions and can build on them,

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then everyone says: “That work was really well done – important work “.

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If other people can’t extend it, then they maybe try to just repeat your experiments.

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If they can’t repeat it, it doesn’t necessarily mean that you were dishonest...

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...or that there was any fraud involved, but if the experiment is not repeatable,

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for whatever reason, people just quit thinking about it.

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They just push it to the side, so those things...

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...may never get corrected in the journal,

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but still they don’t become part of the fabric of science...

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...and so the process has a wonderful self-correcting ability...

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...that those things that are right get amplified and extended in many directions,

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...and then that validates them.

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Those things that were wrong, or sloppy or perhaps in a few cases even dishonest,

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those things are not extendable by independent laboratories...

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...so they get pushed sort of under the rug and they don’t do anyone any harm anymore,

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because nobody is using them as the basis for thinking about...

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...how the human body works, for example.