TEDxDubai - Ian Gilbert - 10/10/09
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Our next speaker is going to talk to us about what happens if you re imagine all of the things you are using in your education process
and what we do for education
Please welcome to the stage, Ian Gilbert
(applause)
thank you
Hi, Hi TEDxDubai
The idea of loads of people coming together from different discipline
from different parts of the world
Sharing ideas, translating ideas, Fantastic idea
But then when, you doing that in this part of the world
over thousands years ago
the house of wisdom
but then that is the side of Baghdad we don't tend to see
from, in the west
I want to get your brains going,
I want to get you thinking
I want to share with you a little question
the question is called a thunk
A thunk, it is the noise the brain makes when it starts thinking about things
Audience Participation, i want to give you, i only get 10 minutes
So i am going to give you 30 seconds of those 10 mintues
Just share, do this in twos or can we be a three
threes if you must with your new fan friends next to you.
This is the question
And the question, this question there are no rights or wrong
the answers are either yes, no or other
And others is perfectly valid
I don't know because is a perfectly valid response
But you won't know that listening to politicians or reading the old media that earlier they were talking about
So yes no or other
30 seconds with the person next to you. The question is
Is a broken down car parked
Is a broken down car parked?
30 seconds with the person next to you, yes no or other. Quickly, off you go
(audience)
Ten seconds
Ok, bring it back
bring it back, bring it back
simple and good interaction devoting technology
Who thinks a broken down car is parked
Who thinks its not parked
Who thinks other
WHo is going well, i want more information
what color is the car
(laughter)
As soon as you say to a child
Ok you think this, just tell me why you think it
It is like opening a little window in their heads
and you see their thinking in in action in a way you don't get from the traditional teaching
model of i am going to give you my ideas
I am going to give you my thoughts
when a little lad i was working with, was 6, 5 or 6
i asked him where thoughts came from
and he said, our God puts them in my ears
and the little people in my head sort them out
and they come out of my mouth
(laughter)
Fantastic, mad
The parking, when i put it to teachers, i did a lot of work with teachers
she fed back to me, i put it to you. Imagine the scene
You paid a couple of dirhams or whatever it is for , in the meter
and you've gone shopping
and when you come back, you've realized, you left your lights on
and the car won't start, ok?
the meter money has expired
the car won't start
You ring the mechanic, they say they will be with you in an hour
You've got another hour in that car parking space, your parking has expires
umm, how many of you, be honest would pay the extra bit of money for the extra hour while he waited for the mechanic to come out
how many of you would stand there with the money going like that when people walking by
laughter
Thunks, there is a professor of philosophy in America in the 80s called Mathew Litman
Who realizes his undergraduates could tell you what Socrates thought, couldn't think for themselves.
So he put this program together called Philosophy for Children
Getting kids from as little as 5 years old to really start to think for themselves
Thunks is sort of what i've spin off, off the back of working in that way.
It is a very powerful way of getting kids to think for themselves
its because the work that i have been doing for the last 15 years in the UK
and in parts of the world as well and i am just starting living in Dubai now
trying to bring this work over here
is about with independent thinking
is about getting kids to think for themselves
but the history of education well thats what school are for
i know its not, unless you were a certain sort of a child in a certain sort of school
but for the majority of people education is about getting them not to think
in fact, we don't want people to think
You look at the industrial method 1911, F, W Taylor the industrial method, alright
he showed countries, whether we are talking about britian , America, Russia wherever he showed
countries how to get them to be more productive, produce more money
but it involved people not thinking
in the factories, in the mines, in the steel work because they would mess the system up
so they needed to be taught enough maths, enough english in order to get by but told not to think
and you can go back further than that. and you can go in all sorts of different directions
Rockofelt, 1906 headed the education board in the US
Said "in our dreams, people yield themselves with perfect docility to our molding hands"
The education system was about manipulating people's brain in order to get them love thier God, love their leader, go out and fight for their country
do just enough
but 21st century, things have changed
and the work we've been doing at school is trying to get people to think
and it makes their brains hurt
my target when i am working with a group of kids i say the end of the session i want your brains to hurt
i was good with that. i was working a while back with a group of - in the UK we have a system gifted & talented and whether you have that where you a
there is something like - i don't know the exact figures because they are too ridicules
but it is something like every group of kids 10% should be gifted & talented
but the other ridiculous thing in the UK is we everybody has to try to be above average
i don't know how that works either statistically speaking
(laughter) Doom to failure pretty why i am here
i had a group of kids, the GNT kids , gifted and talented they were about
12, 13 and they were talking about a tree.
i said ok hang on a minute. What do you mean tree.
lets stop skimming the surface. Lets burry down a little bit deeper.
Socarates he said "an unexamined life is a life not worth living"
let us get a little bit deeper. 30 seconds in pair i want a definition of a tree.
these kids couldn't come up with anything is not logical in sort of a test
OH it is a big thing, we'll leave some
alright, so it wasnt a tree in the winter in the UK. is it less of a tree in the winter than it is in the summer
this table is made of wood. when did it stop being a tree. Has it stopped being a tree
If i chop a tree and start writing on it is it a table if i climb a tree and start writing in it is it a table
If i stick leaves on the table does it become a tree again
"My brain hurts sir"
(laughter)
One girls said "i used to think i was gifted and talented"
(laughter)
ONe of the lads he said you de-spanned our brains sir.
I said what you don't expand it you despaned it
he said i know less on the way out than when i come in
(laughter)
I said its great, it is like anti-teaching
But teaching is about them leaving with my thoughts
and this is a place for that
but there is a powerful place for them developing their own thinking
One of my favorite quotes keeps going round and round in my head at the moment it is an Einstein quote
He said if we can't solve the problems by using the same kind of thinking we use when we created them
The problems that the world is facing and we've touched on some of them today and will have more this afternoon
We are not going to solve these problems
It is the children sitting in classrooms anywhere in the world hopefully if it is a good enough classroom
whose brains would be open up enough in order to be able to go out and solve these problems
perhaps but we are not going to solve this problem
So if you think of evolution and perhaps people are watching this podcast might not believe in evolution
but i dont believe in gravity, so you just have to live with it.
It is evolution, Darwin didn't use the term evolution he talked about descent with modification
decent with modification. If children just think our thoughts nothing changes
and if nothing changes, basic biology tells us something, it is going to die
Decent with modification says we need children leaving our schools thinking slightly different from the way we think to keep going
to keep the world going.
So what are we doing to teach kids to think independent thinking
in my company that is what we are tying to do so it can be a bit of a challenge
there are 3 parts to independent thinking
And it is only when i started getting involved with sort of looking at what TED was doing
So you got technology, entertainment & design
So i realized in many ways independent thinking it was sort of technology education
a neuroscience which is tense if you look in ten dot come they've got a website about bowdarik so i thought i wont' go there
(laughter)
take the neuroscience, we know so much now about what is going on inside people's heads when they learn
but it doesn't seem to be getting through into the classroom
to give you three facts about neuroscience that you might not have known
It takes between 20 & 30 years to a human brain to mature
So when you've got a 10 year old and you say "grow up"
what does that mean
You are acting childish
you are acting adultish
(laughter)
You know when we say act your age what we are really saying act my age
but children are not mini "me"s
they are not little versions of us walking around, they are a working progress
it takes about 25 years for the brain to mature
you can't be... a direct quote from a colleague of mine
Companies who consult in paedriatric neurologist
"You can't be older than your brain"
you've got a 12 year old has an emotional maturity of a 10 year old
they are a ten year old
Work with them as a ten year old to bring them on as opposed to lumping everybody together by their birthdays.
Third one, there is a 2-3 year spread in terms of where children are at in their developmental maturation process within the brain
Even though they've got the same birthday
but again since history of education we learn children together by their birthday
why, it sort of happened that way.
but there is a 2-3 year spread
and maybe we did so much damage to the children putting them through the inappropriate system inappropriately we don't get to 25 intact
right, we know that from the neuroscience. HOw is the neuroscience impacting on the way we are designing education system and the way we are putting
schools together.
so education, neuroscience, technology
My latest work is going to be "why do i need to teach you when i've got, when i've got google."
alright, when i've got the internet.
if the teacher's job is just to teach the subject as opposed to the child
not is she being democratized,
my youngest has accessed all the knowledge in the world at her fingertips standing in a field, updated you know daily
remotely on a PDA or an iphone if she wants it.
so knowledge is being democratized. Knowledge is out there.
what is yet to be democratized the way i see it is learning.
So if we've got teachers who can teach children how to find knowledge and how to know good knowledge from bad knowledge
that 1% the layer was talking about that makes a difference
what to do with it when they get it. How to be creative without memorizing key elements of it
and how to synthesize and use it.
and develop their emotional intelligence and their social intelligence and their creativity and communication skills
the things computer can't do yet
Powerful role for the 21st century teacher
but drip feeding stuff from my brain to your brain there is a different model available to us.
And i encourage teachers in the UK to go to tutor vista
tutorvista.com
It is an indian company established a few years ago
for something like, equivalent to $90 dollars a month
I've got three children one sort of in a primary level education
One at secondary level education
And one in University
They are all in their 20s i just keep them there for research
(laughter)
i can get to them a limited access for an academic tutor someone in india with a headset on
it is a Skype call doesnt cost anything
English speaking. They work on the same virtual but a paper and a computer
something like $90 a month, unlimited access as much time as they would like.
tutorvista.com
AQA
In the UK, AQA stands for two things
Assessment and Qualification Alliance. It is an exam board
The old fashion model
Why do we have exams? Exams, why do we have them
Oxford & Cambridge and industrial revolution students and undergraduates used to talk their way into their degrees
with the masses watching from the balcony deciding who were the clever ones.
There was so many who were gotten to write their answers down and do it in silence
That is why we have the written exam
So you've got AQA exam board, and you've also got AQA any questions answered.
For a pound. You know a couple of dollars
I can text a question and within a minute i've got an answer
So you've got the old fashion model, you can see how clever you are by how much information you can cram into your brain regurgitating an exam
and forgetting it the following day
Or the new model
Well the knowledge is cheap. The knowledge is a pound. The knowledge is a couple of dollars
How intelligent you are would be determined by what you do with that knowledge
That sort of technology. This stuff that we've touched on today as well
We've designed in the UK a teacher free, content free learning - bit of a - software
One of the reasons we did it was because schools were fed up having supply teachers substitute teachers
In the UK, i'll translate it into dollars even though it just doesnt sound real.
1.27billion dollars a year is spent on supply teaching
Substitute teaching in the UK
Multiply that across the world, it is just a waste
alright, so we found out what using a technology a way of avoiding that
The technology is there, the question is the willingness in the world of education
And then with education
So technology, neuroscience and then the education part
And funks is just a simple little bit
of getting kids to think for themselves so their brains "hurt"
One of the questions i've put to a group to a group of children was
Is there more future or past
And what i find when i ask children questions like that some of them the "brighter" ones, the gifted and talented, the academically able one
who are good at playing the game of guess what's in the teacher's head
they say "i don't know"
And i say "i know you don't know. Nobody knows. Tell me what you think"
and they don't, they are not able to answer that question.
but there is a difference between thinking and knowing
One girl she said, there is more future. I said how come.
She said, if you believe in the after life, it goes on forever
i said ok what about if you don't believe in the after life
she said, well it still goes on forever
I said, so what are you saying is whether you believe in the after life or not it goes on forever. Is that right
she went, "Yes"
This lad next to me suddenly says "so what's the point of religion then"
Woo.. Big question
(laughter)
from page of new scientist
a couple of years ago: "what is the point of religion"
Children are ready, and willing and prepared and are able to think profoundly and deeply
at the end of one of these sessions, a thunks sessions with a group of kids they were 9 year old
One lad came up to me afterwards and said "i've just realized how big life is"
That is what education can do
Thank you
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