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Transcript for Bjarke Ingels: 3 warp-speed architecture tales

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The public debate about architecture

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quite often just stays on contemplating the final result,

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sort of the architectural object.

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Is the latest tower in London

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a gherkin or a sausage

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or a sex tool?

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So recently we asked ourselves

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if we could invent a format

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that could actually tell the stories behind the projects.

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Maybe combining images and drawings and words

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to actually sort of tell stories about architecture.

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And we discovered that we didn't have to invent it,

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it already existed in the form of a comic book.

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So we basically copied the format of the comic book.

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So actually we tell the stories of behind the scenes,

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how our projects actually evolve through adaptation

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and improvisation.

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Sort of through the turmoil and the opportunities

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and the incidents of the real world.

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We call this comic book Yes is More.

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Which is obviously a sort of evolution of the ideas of some of our heroes.

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In this case it's Mies van der Rohe's Less is More.

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He triggered the modernist revolution.

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After him followed the post-modern counter revolution.

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Robert Venturi saying "Less is a bore."

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After him Philip Johnson sort of introduced

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(Laughter)

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you could say promiscuity, or at least openness

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to new ideas with "I am a whore."

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Recently Obama has introduced optimism

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at a sort of time of global financial crisis.

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And what we'd like to say with Yes is More,

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is basically trying to question this idea

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that the architectural avant-garde is almost always negatively defined,

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as who or what we are against.

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The cliche of the radical architect

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is the sort of angry young man rebelling against the establishment.

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Or this idea of the misunderstood genius,

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frustrated that the world doesn't fit in with his or her ideas.

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Rather than revolution, we're much more interested in evolution.

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This idea that things gradually evolve

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by adapting and improvising

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to the changes of the world.

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In fact, I actually think that Darwin is one of the people

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who best explains our design process.

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His famous evolutionary tree

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could almost be a diagram of the way we work.

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As you can see, a project evolves through

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a series of generations of design meetings.

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At each meeting there's way too many ideas.

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Only the best ones can survive.

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And through a process of architectural selection

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we might choose a really beautiful model.

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Or we might have a very functional model.

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We mate them. They have sort of mutant offspring.

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And through these sort of generations of design meetings

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we arrive at a design.

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A very literal way of showing it is a project we did

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for a library and a hotel in Copenhagen.

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The design process was like, really tough,

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almost like a struggle for survival.

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But gradually an idea evolved.

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This sort of idea of a rational tower

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that melts together with the surrounding city.

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Sort of expanding the public space onto what we refer to as

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a Scandinavian version of the Spanish Steps in Rome.

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But sort of public on the outside, as well as on the inside,

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with the library.

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But Darwin doesn't only explain the evolution of a single idea.

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As you can see, sometimes a subspecies branches off.

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And quite often we sit in a design meeting

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and we discover that there is this great idea.

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It doesn't really work in this context.

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But for another client in another culture

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it could really be the right answer to a different question.

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So as a result, we never throw anything out.

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We keep our office almost like an archive

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of architectural biodiversity.

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You never know when you might need it.

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And what I'd like to do now, in an act of

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warp-speed story telling,

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is tell the story of how two projects evolved

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by adapting and improvising

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to the happenstance of the world.

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The first story starts last year when we went to Shanghai

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to do the competition for the Danish

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National Pavilion for the World Expo in 2010.

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And we saw this guy, Haibao.

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He's the mascot of the expo.

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And he looks strangely familiar.

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In fact he looked like a building we had designed

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for a hotel in the north of Sweden.

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When we submitted it for the Swedish competition we thought

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it was a really cool scheme. But it didn't exactly

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look like something from the north of Sweden.

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The Swedish jury didn't think so either. So we lost.

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But then we had a meeting with a Chinese businessman

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who saw our design and said,

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"Wow, that's the Chinese character for the word people."

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(Laughter)

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So apparently this is how you write people,

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as in the People's Republic of China.

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We even double checked.

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And at the same time, we got invited to exhibit

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at the Shanghai Creative Industry Week.

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So we thought like, this is too much of an opportunity.

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So we hired a feng shui master.

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We scaled the building up three times to Chinese proportions,

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and went to China.

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(Laughter)

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So the People's Building, as we called it.

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This is our two interpreters, sort of reading the architecture.

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It went on the cover of the Wen Wei Po newspaper.

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Which got Mr. Liang Yu Chen, the mayor of Shanghai

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to visit the exhibition.

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And we had the chance to explain the project.

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And he said, "Shanghai is the city in the world

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with most skyscrapers."

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But to him it was as if the connection to the roots had been cut over.

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And with the People's Building he saw an architecture

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that could bridge the gap between the ancient wisdom of China

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and the progressive future of China.

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So we obviously profoundly agreed with him.

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(Laughter)

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(Applause)

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Unfortunately Mr. Chen is now in prison for corruption.

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(Laughter)

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But like I said, Haibao looked very familiar.

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Because he is actually the Chinese character for people.

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And they chose this mascot because

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the theme of the expo is "Better City, Better Life."

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Sustainability.

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And we thought like sustainability has grown into being

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this sort of neo-Protestant idea

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that is has to hurt in order to do good.

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You know, you're not supposed to take long, warm showers.

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You're not supposed to fly on holidays because it's bad for the environment.

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Gradually you get this idea that sustainable life

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is less fun than normal life.

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So we thought that maybe it could be interesting to focus on examples

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where a sustainable city

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actually increases the quality of life.

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We also asked ourselves what could Denmark possibly show China

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that would be relevant?

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You know it's one of the biggest countries in the world, one of the smallest.

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China symbolized by the dragon.

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Denmark, we have a national bird, the swan.

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(Laughter)

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China has many great poets.

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But we discovered that in the People's Republic

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public school curriculum,

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they have three fairy tales by An Tu Shung,

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or Hans Christian Anderson, as we call him.

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So that means that all 1.3 billion Chinese

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have grown up with The Emperor's New Clothes,

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The Matchstick Girl, and The Little Mermaid.

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It's almost like a fragment of Danish culture

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integrated into Chinese culture.

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The biggest tourist attraction in China is the Great Wall.

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The Great Wall is the only thing that can be seen from the moon.

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The big tourist attraction in Denmark is The Little Mermaid.

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That can actually hardly be seen from the canal tours.

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(Laughter)

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And it sort of shows the difference between these two cities.

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Copenhagen, Shanghai,

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modern, European.

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But then we looked at recent urban development.

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And we noticed that this is like a Shanghai street,

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30 years ago. All bikes, no cars.

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This is how it looks today. All traffic jam.

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Bicycles have become forbidden many places.

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Meanwhile in Copenhagen we're actually expanding the bicycle lanes.

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A third of all the people commute by bike.

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We have a free system of bicycles called the City Bike.

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That you can borrow if you visit the city.

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So we thought like, why don't we reintroduce the bicycle in China?

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We donate 1000 bikes to Shanghai.

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So if you come to the expo, go straight to the Danish pavillion.

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Get a Danish bike. And then continue on that to visit the other pavillions.

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Like I said, Shanghai and Copenhagen are both port cities.

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But in Copenhagen the water has gotten so clean

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that you can actually swim in it.

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One of the first projects we ever did

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was the harbor bath in Copenhagen.

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Sort of continuing the public realm into the water.

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So we thought that these expos quite often have a lot of

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state financed propaganda,

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images, statements, but no real experience.

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So just like with a bike, we don't talk about it.

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You can try it.

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Like with the water, instead of talking about it

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we're going to sail a million liters of harbor water

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from Copenhagen to Shanghai.

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So the Chinese who have the courage can actually dive in

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and feel how clean it is.

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This is where people normally object that it doesn't sound very sustainable

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to sail water from Copenhagen to China.

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But in fact the container ships go

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full of good from China to Denmark.

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And then they sail, empty, back.

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So quite often you load water for ballast.

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So we can actually hitch a ride for free.

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And in the middle of this sort of harbor bath

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we're actually going to put the actual Little Mermaid.

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So the real Mermaid, the real water, and the real bikes.

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And when she's gone we're going to invite

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a Chinese artist to reinterpret her.

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The architecture of the pavilion is this sort of loop

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of exhibition and bikes.

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When you go to the exhibition you'll see the Mermaid and the pool.

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You'll walk around, start looking for a bicycle on the roof,

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jump on your ride and then continue out into the rest of the expo.

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So when we actually won the competition

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we had to do an exhibition in China explaining the project.

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And to our surprise we got one of our boards back

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with corrections from the Chinese state censorship.

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The first thing, the China map missed Taiwan.

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It's a very serious political issue in China. We will add on.

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The second thing, we had compared the Swan to the Dragon.

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And then the Chinese state said,

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"Suggest change to Panda."

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(Laughter)

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(Applause)

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So when it came out in Denmark that we were actually going to

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move our national monument,

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the National People's Party sort of rebelled against it.

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They tried to pass a law against moving the Mermaid.

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So for the first time I got invited to speak at the National Parliament.

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It was kind of interesting because in the morning from nine to 11

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they were discussing the bailout package

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how many billions to invest in saving the Danish economy.

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And then at 11 o'clock they stopped discussing these little issues.

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And then from 11 to one

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they were debating whether or not to send the Mermaid to China.

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(Laughter)

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(Applause)

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But to conclude, if you want to see the Mermaid from May to December

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next year, don't come to Copenhagen.

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Because she's going to be in Shanghai.

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If you do come to Copenhagen

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you will probably see an installation by Ai Weiwei, the Chinese artist.

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But if the Chinese government intervenes it might even be a panda.

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(Laughter)

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So the second story that I'd like to tell

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is, actually starts in my own house.

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This is my apartment.

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This is the view from my apartment.

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Over the sort of landscape of triangular balconies

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that our client called the Leonardo Dicaprio balcony.

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And they form this sort of vertical backyard.

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Where, on a nice summer day, you'll actually get introduced to all your neighbors

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in a vertical radius of 10 meters.

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The house is sort of a distortion of a square block.

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Trying to zig zag it to make sure

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that all of the apartments look at the straight views,

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instead of into each other.

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Until recently this was the view from my apartment.

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Until this place where our client actually bought the neighbor site.

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And he said that he was going to do an apartment block

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next to a parking structure.

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And we thought like rather than doing a traditional stack of apartments,

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looking straight into a big boring block of cars,

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why don't we turn all the apartments into penthouses,

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put them on a podium of cars.

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And because Copenhagen is completely flat,

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if you want to have a nice south-facing slope with a view,

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you basically have to do it yourself.

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Then we sort of cut up the volume,

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so we wouldn't block the view from my apartment.

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(Laughter)

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And essentially the parking is sort of occupying the deep space

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underneath the apartments.

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And up in the sun, you have like a single layer of apartments,

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that combine all the splendors of a suburban lifestyle,

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like a house with a garden with a sort of metropolitan view,

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and a sort of dense urban location.

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This is our first architectural model.

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This is an aerial photo taken last summer.

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And essentially the apartments cover the parking.

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They are accessed through this diagonal elevator.

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It's actually a stand up product from Switzerland.

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Because in Switzerland they have a natural need for diagonal elevators.

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(Laughter)

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And the facade of the parking,

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we wanted to make the parking naturally ventilated.

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So we needed to perforate it.

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And we discovered that by controlling the size of the holes

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we could actually turn the entire facade

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into a gigantic, naturally ventilated,

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rasterized image.

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and since we always refer to the project as The Mountain,

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we commissioned this Japanese Himalaya photographer

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to give us this beautiful photo of Mount Everest,

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making the entire building a 3,000 square meter artwork.

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(Applause)

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So if you go back into the parking, into the corridors,

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it's almost like traveling into a parallel universe

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from cars and colors,

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into this sort of south-facing urban oasis.

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The wood of your apartment continues outside becoming the facades.

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If you go even further it turns into this green garden.

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And all the rainwater that drops on the Mountain

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is actually accumulated.

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And there is an automatic irrigation system

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that makes sure that this sort of landscape of gardens

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in one or two years it will sort of transform

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into a Cambodian temple ruin,

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completely covered in green.

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So the Mountain is like our first built example

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of what we like to refer to as architectural alchemy.

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This idea that you can actually create, if not gold,

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then at least added value by mixing

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traditional ingredients, like normal apartments

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and normal parking,

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and in this case actually offer people

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the chance that they don't have to choose between

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a life with a garden, or a life in the city.

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They can actually have both.

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As an architect it's really hard to set the agenda.

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You can't just say that now I'd like to do a sustainable city

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in central Asia.

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Because that's not really how you get commissions.

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You always have to sort of adapt and improvise

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to the opportunities and accidents that happen,

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and the sort of turmoil of the world.

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One last example is that recently we,

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like last summer we won the competition

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to design a Nordic national bank.

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This was the director of the bank when he was still smiling.

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(Laughter)

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It was in the middle of the capital so we were really excited by this opportunity.

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Unfortunately it was the national bank of Iceland.

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At the same time we actually had a visitor,

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a minister from Azerbaijan came to our office.

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We took him to see the Mountain. And he got very excited

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by this idea that you could actually make mountains

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out of architecture.

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Because Azerbaijan is known as the Alps of Central Asia.

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So he asked us if we could actually imagine

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an urban master plan

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on an island outside the capital

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that would recreate the silhouette of the seven most significant mountains

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of Azerbaijan.

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So we took the commission.

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And we made this small movie that I'd like to show.

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We quite often make little movies.

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We always argue a lot about the soundtrack.

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But in this case it was really easy to choose the song.

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Tak sme túto zákazku zobrali.

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A urobili sme krátke video, ktoré vám teraz ukážem.

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So basically Baku is this sort of crescent bay

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overlooking the island of Zira, the island that we are planning.

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Almost like the diagram of their flag.

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And our main idea was

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to sort of sample the seven most significant mountains

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of the topography of Azerbaijan.

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And reinterpret them into urban and architectural structures,

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inhabitable of human life.

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Then we place these mountains on the island,

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surrounding this sort of central green valley.

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Almost like a central park.

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And what makes it interesting is that the island right now

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is just a piece of desert. It has no vegetation.

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It has no water. It has no energy, no resources.

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So we actually sort of designed the entire island as a single ecosystem,

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exploiting wind energy to drive the desalination plants,

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and to use the thermal properties of water

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to heat and cool the buildings.

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And all the sort of excess freshwater wastewater

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is filtered organically into the landscape,

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gradually transforming the desert island

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into sort of a green, lush landscape.

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So you can say where an urban development

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normally happens at the expense of nature,

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in this case it's actually creating nature.

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And the buildings they don't only sort of

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invoke the imagery of the mountains.

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They also operate like mountains.

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They create shelter from the wind.

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They accumulate the solar energy.

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They accumulate the water.

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So they actually transform the entire island

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into a single ecosystem.

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So we recently presented the master plan.

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And it has gotten approved.

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And this summer we are starting the construction documents

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of the two first mountains,

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in what's going to be the first carbon-neutral island

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in Central Asia.

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(Applause)

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Yes, maybe just to round off.

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So in a way you can see how the Mountain in Copenhagen

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sort of evolved into the Seven Peaks of Azerbaijan.

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With a little luck and some more evolution

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maybe in 10 years it could be the Five Mountains of on Mars.

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Thank you.

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(Applause)

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Ďakujem.

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(Potlesk)