RH: Andrew, this form has some checkboxes inside a fieldset

how does Window Eyes handle this?

AD: It will read as we go down ...

[READER: "Heading 1, fieldsets, begin form"]

AD: So it tells me where the form starts ...

[READER: "Heading 2, participants. Name edit box name

Areas of interest, checkbox unchecked writing,

writing. Checkbox unchecked drawing, drawing.

Checkbox unchecked painting, painting. Checkbox unchecked pottery, pottery.

Areas of interest end fieldset"]

AD: OK, so it tells me when that finishes ...

[READER: "Companion, edit box companion end form"]. DISSOLVE TO 2 SHOT

RH: OK, well let's fill it in.

[READER: "Top, edit box name. Browse off, name

Writing checkbox, unchecked"]

AD: When I tab it took me straight to

the first checkbox

[READER: "Drawing checkbox

Painting checkbox, pottery checkbox, checked"]

AD: OK that checks it.

[READER: "Companion, edit box"]

AD: And that takes me down to companion. Roger's my companion.

RH: Let's say this form had to apply to a

number of participants, so we need to be able to separate Participant 1

from Participant 2, we would then need to put a fieldset

around the Participants, which would mean nesting

that other fieldset. Can we see what happens when we do that? FADE OUT

[READER: "Fieldsets within form ...

Participant name. Participant fieldset. Name.

Edit box name. Areas of interest.

Checkbox unchecked writing.

Checkbox unchecked pottery. Areas of interest

end fieldset. Companion edit box, participant end fieldset, end form"]

RH: So for you that's quite clear we've got

Participant 1, you put your name and then what you want

and then participant 1 puts in a companion. AD: Yes.

RH: Wonder what happens with Jaws? FADE OUT

RH: We've got the same form with a nested fieldset, let's see what happens with Jaws?

AD: It will be very similar, I suspect.

[READER: "Heading level 1 fieldsets, blank, participant

name colon, edit. Areas of interest

writing checkbox not checked, drawing checkbox

not checked, painting checkbox not checked

pottery checkbox not checked. Companion colon, edit."]

RH: So it's read it very similarly, let's try and enter into it now

[READER: "Form, name colon edit.

Forms mode on, participant, name colon edit, type-in-text"]

AD: And now I tab.

[READER: "Areas of interest writing checkbox not checked.

Areas of interest drawing checkbox not -. Areas of interest painting checkbox not -.

Areas of interest pottery checkbox not checked. Checked"]

RH: Let's stop there. One of the slight difference is in this case

its reading that legend 'areas of interest' with each of

those labels, which is a little bit different.

AD: That's very much the same from my point of view.

RH: What happens when we go to 'companion'?

[READER: "Companion colon edit, type in text"] [DISPLAY - entering companion name]

RH: So it didn't associate either legend with the word companion?

AD: Yes, I am not sure though that

Jaws is actually calling the nested fieldset.

[READER: "Forms mode off"] AD: See if we go up ...

[READER: "Companion colon, pottery checkbox checked. Companion colon"]

AD: So its not telling me there the fieldset has ended, which I was abit suprised about.

RH: And that's another slight difference between them.

AD: Yes, but that maybe a setting issue

but it does raise the question that there are so many settings

within both screen readers, but particularly in Jaws,

and I suspect that a lot of users

who don't understand HTML code

won't know what most of them mean

which raises another question. FADE OUT